Hal9000
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Anyone notice Barca's passing went to pot after Iniesta came off?
Real Madrid or Barcelona will win World Football Challenge 2011...
We've just lost by one goal with Madrid.
Sack Fergie, sell Obertan.
I'm really happy for Cleverly.
He should he has the quality to be in the squad. I expect to see quite a bit of him this season.
Wellbeck will play a lot of matches too.
I see Mandy's set the make up gun to Dickensian whore.
Why have Real Madrid beaten us?Apart from the fact that Real Madrid have won it.
Why have Real Madrid beaten us?
I don`t get this challenge
Why have Real Madrid beaten us?
I don`t get this challenge
Three points for a regulation victoryWhy have Real Madrid beaten us?
I don`t get this challenge
Owen's also a brutal finisher. He doesn't show mercy. Always proving why he's still got a contract. Seen nothing but hard work, professionalism and overall good play from him since he's joined. Benitez was mad not to offer him a contract.
Someone just tooted on a vuvuzela for about half a second. Think he/she might have been instantly mobbed.
True! Owen will be forever grateful for Sir Alex having saved his career. We can't begin to imagine he would get the chance to play the like of Barca again, without having joined us. He must be living his dreams whilst playing for us, whether on the bench or on the pitch.
watching the game now. just saw thisWhat was up with Rooney today?
I disagree. I wouldn't say his career was "saved" at all. He went from starting most matches at Newcastle to getting, if he's lucky, about 5 starts and a handful of appearances late on. Just because he's on our squad, doesn't mean he was saved.
Living his dream I'm sure was starting for Liverpool or England, or even Real. Playing for an arch nemesis wouldn't be high on there. However, he sees the virtue of playing for us and respects the club on a professional level.
If you're attributing his "living the dream" as winning the PL, I'm sure that moment has been a dream, he just thought he'd make a larger impact in accomplishing it. And playing against Barca - I think he would make it on any of the top 4 teams outside of Chelsea and City - Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal could all use him, as we have found uses too. Plus he played against them in a friendly, he didn't make the field during the important game. Playing against them in a friendly is something even the likes of MLS teams get a chance to do.
He's one of the classiest professionals in the game. I just don't get all this "living the dream" nonsense tossed around like he doesn't deserve to be on the team and it's a real treat or that this wasn't something on his to do list. He's happy playing for the best team in the world and he's acting a professional, otherwise, I don't imagine he's too chaft.
Yep the youngsters have given us and i expect SAF some food for thought after those performances, yes it was only a friendly but we played Barca perfectly first half.
Fantastic energy and desire and played with real confidence at a high tempo. Welbeck in particular is becoming a real handful. He has a real determination to make an impact and works his bollocks off for the team.
Cleverley too could be a real plus for us this season. I personally would have liked to see TC last season in place of Gibson. TC's extra energy and mobility would have given us much more dynamism in midfield than Gibson offered.
Let's hope he and Welbeck get a decent run this season.
When I went to the Real Madrid vs Union game some Mexicans tried to get in with vuvuzelas to be stopped at the gate.
I see Mandy's set the make up gun to Dickensian whore.
You fail to recognise our team wasn't exactly first choice either...
I'd say it's encouraging regardless of the players Barca missed.
We started with 7 first teamers (De Gea, Vidic, Rafael, Evra, Nani, Anderson (he must be considered as first teamer now) and Rooney) and Young on the flank. Giggs came in during the second half. That was quite a strong team.
Maybe I overrate our team but I don't need a friendly to believe that we can beat Barcelona without Messi, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Alves and Sanchez. To say the truth I expected us to win against that with a much bigger margin.
I was at the match, and just to let you know, Barcelona had 6 players from the final line up (Pedro, Iniesta, Valdes, Villa, Biscuits and Abidal, plus Keita who's hardly a slouch). It wasn't an easy team to face and they played at full pelt. We were missing Rio, Valencia, Berbatov et al, with Tom Cleverley who's as young as Thiago Alcantara running the midfield.
This win doesn't mean a lot, but surely where credit is due?
As fishfingers15 points out, Barcelona had a fair few of their final players on the pitch, and so did we, however we did play our new goalkeeper, our 4th/5th choice centre back in Evans, an unproven central midfielder in Cleverley, Anderson who although now has to be considered first choice, probably wouldn't be ideally, and Welbeck who's another young player who's certainly nowhere near first choice. It's just because Barcelona rely so heavily on that core of players (Messi, Xavi, Iniesta) that when 2 of them aren't playing its such a huge loss, whilst we could leave out some of our best players such as Ferdinand, Valencia, Berbatov, Giggs and guys like Van Der Sar who have retired, but were extremely important players in the teams that have played Barcelona in the recent finals, and people would say we weren't as understrength as they were.
I'm not giving too much credit to the win, it means little as it's pre-season, but I think the mental effect it will have on the players will be important, it wouldn't of been good to lose again to Barca and have the players somewhat reminded that they are inferior to the best club in Europe. Now the lads can feel confident, and at least know we CAN beat Barcelona, even if it is in a friendly, and even if they are without some of their important players.
But Barcelona are so far ahead of everybody else, that even when they are missing these players beating them 2-1 is still a respectable result. I certainly wouldn't expect anything greater.
You do realise that the team Barcelona played was still very respectable, there is nothing at all wrong with beating them 2-1. I honestly can't see why its bullshit, I think we should be at least very content with this result.
it was a friendly we beat them move on
We started with 7 first teamers (De Gea, Vidic, Rafael, Evra, Nani, Anderson (he must be considered as first teamer now) and Rooney) and Young on the flank. Giggs came in during the second half. That was quite a strong team.
Maybe I overrate our team but I don't need a friendly to believe that we can beat Barcelona without Messi, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Alves and Sanchez. FFS when we got the winner they had a 16 yr old playing on the pitch. To say the truth I expected us to win against that with a much bigger margin.