David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Ferguson knows he is not the finished article and mentioned he needed to bulk up more. The premier league is so physical and you need that strength as a goalkeeper especially when dominating balls flying into the box.

He's young...I mean goodness, he's only 20 which is a baby for a goalkeeper and yet I saw so much right about him yesterday and far more advanced and talented than most 20 yr old goalkeepers in the league. I reckon he will be a huge star for us.

For me, watching him yesterday, his present ability and future potential, I have far more confidence in him than I had for the entire career Barthez had with us!!!!!
 
Bilbo said:
Anyone who expects him to be Van Der Sar this season is going to be disappointed. He'll make some mistakes this season. Will likely cost us a handful of points.

As long as we can be patient and give him time he'll be okay. Keeper for the next 15 years hopefully.
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Exactly, all keepers make mistakes, it's how they let it effect them thats the issue.

We know the lad has the ability, it's whether he has the mental strength not to let errors put him off his game.

He seemed to refocus well yesterday.
 
I think thats an important attribute of his. He didn't dwell on his mistake yesterday. In fact, after that he stepped up and did everything that was needed of him. Thats good to see in a 20 year old.
 
First goal I don't blame him for, Second goal he didn't come off his line to close the angle down but that comes down to wether your expecting the shot or not so I can't blame him for that either. Messi scored a very similar goal against Edwin in the champion league final as well. I'm more than happy enough with the lad. Recovered superbly and once his communication with his defence is sorted then everything will be fine.
 
1) First goal his only mistake was he crumpled rather than just hold his position. The ball was hitting the 6 yard line which is always the line of uncertainty of whether to come or stand your ground. Vidic and Rio did not defend the ball very well but you also have to goive creit for the delivery.

The six yard line is like a well pitched delivery that is going to hit the bails - do you come forward or play back? It's the same with a GK do you rush out or stand your ground. Whatever you decide the worst thing is to dither.

2) Second goal was all down to positioning - he is an active ball playing keeper so when the ball is in play he is usually quite far advanced in his box. When the ball broke to Dzeko he was backstepping very quickly and when the shot came off he was never really set to dive low and fast. If he was set he would have saved that shot or if Dzeko had delayed his shot by 1/2 a second.

3)He played better in the second half as he was not playing behind Vidic and Rio - there is always pressure when you play behind a top centre half pairing - you are afraid of making a mistake. When Evans and Jones were in front of him he looked to me to be more assured as it would be him making more of the decsion making rather than the centrebacks.
 
Was surprised by the indecision for the first goal, because his command of area from set pieces was generally fantastic for Athletico. But he's not entirely to blame for it, and the ball in from Silva was amazing.
 
Commadus said:
1) First goal his only mistake was he crumpled rather than just hold his position. The ball was hitting the 6 yard line which is always the line of uncertainty of whether to come or stand your ground. Vidic and Rio did not defend the ball very well but you also have to goive creit for the delivery.

The six yard line is like a well pitched delivery that is going to hit the bails - do you come forward or play back? It's the same with a GK do you rush out or stand your ground. Whatever you decide the worst thing is to dither.

2) Second goal was all down to positioning - he is an active ball playing keeper so when the ball is in play he is usually quite far advanced in his box. When the ball broke to Dzeko he was backstepping very quickly and when the shot came off he was never really set to dive low and fast. If he was set he would have saved that shot or if Dzeko had delayed his shot by 1/2 a second.

3)He played better in the second half as he was not playing behind Vidic and Rio - there is always pressure when you play behind a top centre half pairing - you are afraid of making a mistake. When Evans and Jones were in front of him he looked to me to be more assured as it would be him making more of the decsion making rather than the centrebacks.
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This, 100% correct.
 
I was fairly impressed with him yesterday. Apart from the obvious mistakes - which you're going to get from a 20 year old GK who's just stepped into the big time - he was very good. That take and kick upfield from the corner was his best bit for me. Plus a could of fantastic saves.

The only disappointment is his height. SAF said he's a very tall GK, which just isn't true. He's not a big lad at all.
 
Blair said:
I was fairly impressed with him yesterday. Apart from the obvious mistakes - which you're going to get from a 20 year old GK who's just stepped into the big time - he was very good. That take and kick upfield from the corner was his best bit for me. Plus a could of fantastic saves.

The only disappointment is his height. SAF said he's a very tall GK, which just isn't true. He's not a big lad at all.
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6 ft 4 in isn't tall?!?

I must be a midget then.
 
Second game I have (knowingly) seen of him. 3 mistakes...:)

He's clearly talented, and we have to give him time. He will make more mistakes over the 2-3 next seasons.

He looks like a teenager, and appeared to keep goal like one.
 
puNANI said:
Great post Commadus. Agree 100%
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A lifetime of GK hope I have learned a few things!!!

Saying that on the weekend I wasplaying behind a new centre half and a cross came over and I literally just froze like a statue as I "expected" him to clear it but he just assumed it was mine - yeah it was a goal.

The point is that I would expect that it would take De Gea about 20 matches or more to develop a good understanding with the centrebacks. It could come quicker it may take longer but it's something that no matter how much you work on in practice it's when you are actually playing games where it really gells.
 
Joe Hart made the exact same 'mistake' for our 1st goal as de Gea did. You can't do anything about good quality balls coming into the box and whern they end up in the back of the net, the keeper nearly always looks stupid
 
Blair said:
I was fairly impressed with him yesterday. Apart from the obvious mistakes - which you're going to get from a 20 year old GK who's just stepped into the big time - he was very good. That take and kick upfield from the corner was his best bit for me. Plus a could of fantastic saves.

The only disappointment is his height. SAF said he's a very tall GK, which just isn't true. He's not a big lad at all.
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WTF?

He's 6,4 you bellend!
 
Talking Vulture said:
Joe Hart made the exact same 'mistake' for our 1st goal as de Gea did. You can't do anything about good quality balls coming into the box and whern they end up in the back of the net, the keeper nearly always looks stupid
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True, was similar to Hart's.

De Gea either had to come for the ball, or stay on his line. He did neither. I.e. a mistake.
 
cina said:
Where are you getting this from? All sites I've looked at say he's 6,4
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Yes, thats what the sites say. But when you see him standing next to guys who are around the 6 foot mark, you'll see that the sites are wrong.

Lance Uppercut said:
6'2" if you're feeling generous. No way is he 6'4".
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Exactly.

Commadus said:
You know that for a fact?
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Smalling is 6.4 and is MUCH taller than De Gea. Vidic, Carrick and Rio are 6.2 and are taller than De Gea.

Jones is 5,11 and looks about the same height as De Gea.

GledTheRed said:
WTF?

He's 6,4 you bellend!
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No he's not. And quit the insults you fecking cnut. Get to feck.

Joe Hart shook his hand in the tunnel and had a work with him after the game and he's a LOT taller than DDG. He's a giant compared to him.

Wiki says Hart is only 1 inch taller :rolleyes:
 
Commadus said:
There was me thinking
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There is your problem. If you can't see from looking at him beside the rest of our team mates that he is not 6'4", you are either blind, or stupid. I think we can rule out the blind part.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
True, was similar to Hart's.

De Gea either had to come for the ball, or stay on his line. He did neither. I.e. a mistake.
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He was no more than a yard off his line when the goal went in. That's perfect positioning for a keeper that chooses not to come and collect a cross. Absolutely nothing he could do about that goal. Brilliant delivery and mediocre defending. Not the keeper's fault at all.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
There is your problem. If you can't see from looking at him beside the rest of our team mates that he is not 6'4", you are either blind, or stupid. I think we can rule out the blind part.
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I can't believe that people still think he's still 6.4 after seeing him standing with the rest of our team. If he's 6.4 Smalling is 6.8.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was no more than a yard off his line when the goal went in. That's perfect positioning for a keeper that chooses not to come and collect a cross. Absolutely nothing he could do about that goal. Brilliant delivery and mediocre defending. Not the keeper's fault at all.
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Disagree.

Personally, I think he should have come for it.
 
Blair said:
I can't believe that people still think he's still 6.4 after seeing him standing with the rest of our team. If he's 6.4 Smalling is 6.8.
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Yep. We sure do have some "special" fans.
 
Here's DDG next to Cassilas - who's 5 foot 10.

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He's no more than an inch taller. Wiki says he's 6" taller - so he must be :rolleyes:

Look at any picture of him standing next to someone else, you'll see he's not a big lad.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
This De Gea height thing is annoying. Impossible to be sure exactly how tall he is but it would be a bit odd if every single online resource has it wrong. He' certainly doesn't look 6'4" though.
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It's more annoying the fact that some morons on here think that because wiki-fecking-pedia says he's 6,4 then he must be, when clearly he's not.
 
Blair said:
Here's DDG next to Cassilas - who's 5 foot 10.

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He's no more than an inch taller. Wiki says he's 6" taller - so he must be :rolleyes:

Look at any picture of him standing next to someone else, you'll see he's not a big lad.
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And here's a picture of him beside Rio, who is 6" taller than Casillas.

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Photos, eh?
 
Blair said:
Here's DDG next to Cassilas - who's 5 foot 10.

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He's no more than an inch taller. Wiki says he's 6" taller - so he must be :rolleyes:

Look at any picture of him standing next to someone else, you'll see he's not a big lad.
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Casillas is 6"

De Gea is possibly just about 6'1 at a touch.
 
Blair said:
It's more annoying the fact that some morons on here think that because wiki-fecking-pedia says he's 6,4 then he must be, when clearly he's not.
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What's really annoying is someone calling other peoples morons because he doesn't seem to grasp how misleading photos can be when it comes to judging height.
 
i wouldn't mind seeing david in a 1 v 1 situation.
 
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