UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)

So many politicians trying to make this riot something it isn't
 
This looting has been a fecking disgrace..they didn't bother taking Robbie Keane.
 
A racism thing?



Going out on a limb here but there seems to be a bit of a common theme between the riots today and those from 30 years ago.

That's not my point though. I was challenging your absurdly nostalgic drivel about everyone aged over 50 spending their lives as model citizens, despite enduring terrible hardship.

There were riots certainly, then you had things like the Miners Strike, the Poll Tax, widespread industrial action etc. though those generations never had what kids have today, it is precisely due to those who grew up in the 60s/70s/80s and the struggles they went through that kids today have such abilities yet look at what they do with them.
 
Eh? What's with the straw man?

Where did I say that society is 100% responsible, or that individual responsibility doesn't come into it at all?

As for straw men, I didn't call them 'underclass sub-human chav scum', others have said that they are scum, but thats based on their actions and hard to disagree with. No one has mentioned 'underclass' or suggested that they are less entitled to anything based on their class or where they've grown up.
 
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Madness of today summed up by a looter in Clapham who waited for the green man at crossing with a TV & laptop under his arms #londonriots

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Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you there. These people aren't rioting because of lack of opportunities, they are rioting because they where promised that they would all be rich and they won't. They are materialistic hence the theft, they don't know why they hate the world which is the case for a lot of people.

Or they perceived that they would get rich, that is a fairly decent point. Though we could all sit here and come up with some very good explanations but ultimately this came about from some people protesting which became violent, and more and more thugs decided to get involved snowballing the situation, without any thought probably going into it.
 
Reports of tigers roaming through Primrose Hill. That's literally 30 seconds from where my Auntie lives.

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If you compare that to the third picture down in this article, they're the same shot. The tiger thing is a hoax.

Pictured: Escaped Siberian tiger enjoys a night-time stroll in a southern Italian town | Mail Online
 
Ken Livingstone on BBC news campaigning already, yes this is terrible, horrible horrible, wouldn't happen if I was the mayor, I tell you, when I was the mayor I was doing this, I would want to do this, yes.... if I were mayor.

The reporter has said to him 3 or 4 times it sounds like you're using this to campaign for mayor again to which he's replying nonononono not at all, it's terrible coughvoteformeagaincough wink wink.
 
Not my videos. I'm prob about 12 mins away from there, towards West Ealing, but i can't hear anything yet. These looters are only targeting shopping areas.

Oh ok, I'm the other direction, nearer Acton Town. There's still a fair amount of places that they can target though.

Oh it would be so easy to run down there right now. Never would of course, but thinking about it, it would be so, so easy.
 
Or they perceived that they would get rich, that is a fairly decent point. Though we could all sit here and come up with some very good explanations but ultimately this came about from some people protesting which became violent, and more and more thugs decided to get involved snowballing the situation, without any thought probably going into it.

Now that I agree with.
 
Ken Livingstone on BBC news campaigning already, yes this is terrible, horrible horrible, wouldn't happen if I was the mayor, I tell you, when I was the mayor I was doing this, I would want to do this, yes.... if I were mayor.

The reporter has said to him 3 or 4 times it sounds like you're using this to campaign for mayor again to which he's replying nonononono not at all, it's terrible coughvoteformeagaincough wink wink.

He's been at it since at least yesterday, the colossal fecking prick.
 
Ok yeah, well I stand by that.

It's not the only cause but it shouldn't be brushed under the carpet with sniffy comments about immigration or claims that this would never have happened back in t'day.

Comments about it being the 'fault' of immigrants are fecking stupid, however the policies of successive governments in terms of dealing with the demands of immigration are certainly part of it, and part of the discrepancy you're pointing to yourself.

Thats not saying immigration shouldn't be allowed, just that how its dealt with has been naive and inadequate.

As for looking to yesteryear, I referenced attitudes during the war (in response to the excuse of people growing up in hard times) to point towards a difference in societal attitudes between then and now, they had it far worse that the current generation didn't so whats changed between then and now, why have attitudes changed so much, to an extent that its now ok to destory a 150 year old business in your community that offers god knows how many employment, or to burn your neighbours house down?

If we really want to address the issues which are causing these attitudes thats what we need to look at. How have we ended up where we are? Society is part of it... but ultimately society is what we make it and the prevalent attitudes of its members. Its not some controlling, external force.
 
This could turn really ugly soon. Apparently rioters are building up in numbers... getting ready to attack Dalston again, after being ran out by the Turks. Could turn in to a blood bath.
 
This could turn really ugly soon. Apparently rioters are building up in numbers... getting ready to attack Dalston again, after being ran out by the Turks. Could turn in to a blood bath.

fecking hell.

Sky saying a man has been shot and injured in Croydon.
 
Non fatal shooting of a man in Croydon. Herp derp.
 
I wish they'd show some live cameras, is there anything live any news outlet?
 
All the footage of these wankers fighting with the police shows the same thing, gutless wankers throw something from a relatively 'safe' distance from the police so they can't be reached by batons/shields and then run away, turn around with arms out in "come on then" type attitude, whilst stepping back further and further to ensure they don't actually get confronted.