Phil Jones

He's the Rooney of defenders. Not often you see such a dominant young defender. It's unreal if you think about it. He was pretty good in his role yesterday against sweden forcing us (sweden) to play wide and cutting down space for ibrahimovic. It's just such a big frustration what to do with all this talent when he is too good on the ball to be a defender and at the same time one hell of a defender...
 
He doesn't seem to have a fixed position yet which isn't really particularly worrying as we could have a very versatile yet still skillful player on our hands. I think he has the potential to be a world class centre-half, good full back and a decent midfielder - no need to say where I would prefer to have him permanently.
 
Too good on the ball to be a defender? 'kin Swedes.
Exactly (if your making the point I think you are), we'll have an entire ball-playing XI in the future with De Gea, Smalling and Jones making up the back three. Barca won't know what's hit them.
 
Exactly (if your making the point I think you are), we'll have an entire ball-playing XI in the future with De Gea, Smalling and Jones making up the back three. Barca won't know what's hit them.

if you look at all our young players that are coming through or we've bought recently, most if not all are ball players. I think you've picked up on SAF's plans for this squad
 
Yeah, but what about Jones the winger? He's got all the components to be a world class version of James Milner on the left. We should at least give him several games there for England just to see how it goes.

It would be like Park and Darren Fletcher combined, with a great cross!
 
It says a lot about the lack of technique in English centrebacks when I read bout all the over the top comments of how Jones can play in midfield or winger etc. He is a defender abeit a more closer version to the defenders found in Serie A in the 90s. He could be a Baresi or Cannavaro, but never in a million years a top midfielder. I think a lot of us are getting carried away n playing down the skillset required of a defensive midfielder.
 
It says a lot about the lack of technique in English centrebacks when I read bout all the over the top comments of how Jones can play in midfield or winger etc. He is a defender abeit a more closer version to the defenders found in Serie A in the 90s. He could be a Baresi or Cannavaro, but never in a million years a top midfielder. I think a lot of us are getting carried away n playing down the skillset required of a defensive midfielder.

it's the same thing when people maul over wilshire's ability. When pep guardiola says he's got players in his B team that are just like wilshire then it sums the whole thing up. England has talented kids but they're not using them correctly. They need a better basis and platform to build off of. Jones is showing what it means to have ball players in your team. That's how good England if they actually have players like him but it's going to take some time cuz y'all need to get your shit together
 
it's the same thing when people maul over wilshire's ability. When pep guardiola says he's got players in his B team that are just like wilshire then it sums the whole thing up. England has talented kids but they're not using them correctly. They need a better basis and platform to build off of. Jones is showing what it means to have ball players in your team. That's how good England if they actually have players like him but it's going to take some time cuz y'all need to get your shit together

It's not the same thing at all. Wilshere is a very talented young central midfielder. As good as almost any other in Europe for his age.

As for Jones. He's just a kid. 19 years old. Who knows what his best position will be in the long term? Nobody on here, that's for sure.
 
Have you guys heard what Capello said about Jones?

This?

Capello: Phil Jones is my new Franco Baresi

Fabio Capello has given his ultimate seal of approval to Phil Jones by comparing the Manchester United youngster to two of football's all-time greats.

Jones played his third different England match in a different position as he filled the holding midfield role in Tuesday's Wembley win over Sweden.

The teenager, who admits his natural position is at the heart of the back line, made his debut at right-back in Montenegro last month before playing a more advanced midfield role in the upset win over Spain last weekend.

After effectively booking his place in England’s Euro 2012 squad as Scott Parker’s deputy, Jones found himself showered with huge praise, as Capello bracketed him with two of the players who were the Italian's biggest standard bearers in his club career,

“It is difficult to find a player like Phil Jones, really difficult," said Capello. "In my career I found probably only two.

“I’m talking about Franco Baresi at Milan and Fernando Hierro at Real Madrid. They were great players, who could play as a midfielder but also at centre-back.

“Phil can play in different positions but always at the top level. This shows what he has - he is a talent.”

Baresi won six Serie A crowns, the European Cup three times and was a member of Italy’s 1982 World Cup-winning squad, while Hierro scored 29 times in 89 caps for Spain and earned three Champions League titles plus five domestic crowns.

So far, Jones has a bare personal honours board, but Capello clearly believes the United man is at the dawn of what is going to be a stellar career for club and country.

“What is so good about him and makes him such a big talent is that when he receive the ball he plays always without fear," added the England boss.

“He makes good passes and finds good solutions - the best solution every time. I know something about football and the solution that he chooses every time when he receives the ball always the best. It is a talent.

“To see him play in front of the back four against Sweden was really important for me because now, if Parker is not fit, I have a solution.

“I needed to experiment. I was not sure he [Jones] would be okay to play this position. I knew he can play in every other position but for me it was a really important test for him.”

England: Phil Jones compared to legend Franco Baresi and Fernando Hierro by Fabio Capello - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
 
It says a lot about the lack of technique in English centrebacks when I read bout all the over the top comments of how Jones can play in midfield or winger etc. He is a defender abeit a more closer version to the defenders found in Serie A in the 90s. He could be a Baresi or Cannavaro, but never in a million years a top midfielder. I think a lot of us are getting carried away n playing down the skillset required of a defensive midfielder.

No one is saying he should be a winger, I was kidding!

And Capello seems to think he could be a top midfielder.
 
I don't like all this rotation in position at such a young age, especially with such a talented footballer. It constantly reminds me of O'Shea, obviously not as naturally talented as PJ but a talented defender nonetheless. He showed his amazing potential in his first season at United, and I personally believe all the positional rotating had a huge impact on his career at United.

I think a player needs to be given a position so he knows exactly what is role is in the team, and knows what exactly to work on in training, to improve his weaknesses in that position, or to develop his already good traits further.

Phil Jones is a real gem, as Capello has stated, they don't come along very often, I would be genuinely gutted if Jones goes down the same bath as JOS, although John served the club very well, he wasn't exactly a star of the team.

Just my view.

Edit: I think United have a very tough decision to make. You can see the potential in Phil in every position he plays.
 
I don't like all this rotation in position at such a young age, especially with such a talented footballer. It constantly reminds me of O'Shea, obviously not as naturally talented as PJ but a talented defender nonetheless. He showed his amazing potential in his first season at United, and I personally believe all the positional rotating had a huge impact on his career at United.

I think a player needs to be given a position so he knows exactly what is role is in the team, and knows what exactly to work on in training, to improve his weaknesses in that position, or to develop his already good traits further.

Phil Jones is a real gem, as Capello has stated, they don't come along very often, I would be genuinely gutted if Jones goes down the same bath as JOS, although John served the club very well, he wasn't exactly a star of the team.

Just my view.

Agreed. John O'Shea was destined for bigger things, he looked an absolute star i 02/03. I blame rotating and weight gain.
 
Agreed. John O'Shea was destined for bigger things, he looked an absolute star i 02/03. I blame rotating and weight gain.

And being a bit of a pansy as well.

p.s. I don't mean in a sexual orientation way, I mean on the football pitch. He should have got stuck in more considering he's huge and would outweigh most attackers.
 
Jones would be a great sweeper - it's a shame that position doesn't really exist anymore
 
It's not the same thing at all. Wilshere is a very talented young central midfielder. As good as almost any other in Europe for his age.

As for Jones. He's just a kid. 19 years old. Who knows what his best position will be in the long term? Nobody on here, that's for sure.

of course wilshire is very talented. the point pep was making is that what we see in Jack's game is no surprise nor should it be a surprise. Yet because of kids have been developed, it does come as a surprise as he is not your usual British player.

The point is, England can produce very good players if they sort out their youth development scheme. Look at Germany
 
And being a bit of a pansy as well.

p.s. I don't mean in a sexual orientation way, I mean on the football pitch. He should have got stuck in more considering he's huge and would outweigh most attackers.

Paging Dr. Freud..
 
The lad has a lot to learn, but who doesn't at that age? He gets Fergie's blood racing, which is good enough for me. He's utterly fearless, for a start. Maybe he's being played out of position just to console Smalling.

There's also something wonderfully plain about Phil Jones. I can quite easily invisage him as a farm-hand in a middling Dickens novel.
 
I don't like all this rotation in position at such a young age, especially with such a talented footballer. It constantly reminds me of O'Shea, obviously not as naturally talented as PJ but a talented defender nonetheless. He showed his amazing potential in his first season at United, and I personally believe all the positional rotating had a huge impact on his career at United.

I think a player needs to be given a position so he knows exactly what is role is in the team, and knows what exactly to work on in training, to improve his weaknesses in that position, or to develop his already good traits further.

Phil Jones is a real gem, as Capello has stated, they don't come along very often, I would be genuinely gutted if Jones goes down the same bath as JOS, although John served the club very well, he wasn't exactly a star of the team.

Just my view.

Edit: I think United have a very tough decision to make. You can see the potential in Phil in every position he plays.

The only time O'Shea looked like a potential star was at left back in 02/03 and he got replaced by Heinze in 2004 because he wasn't doing particularly well in 03/04. It was a mistake I feel even though we all liked Heinze at the time for his spirit and determination, but he wasn't a particularly solid defender as proven by his path following United exit as he struggled both at Real Madrid and Marseille. I agree though that shifting O'Shea from one position to another seems to have taken all the brilliance he had left away, he played a lot at right back towards the end of his United career which is similar to left back but should have felt more natural to him seeing as he's right footed, but he never looked that comfortable there.
 
I dont see whats the big deal in playing Jones in different positions. He's fecking 19. Why is versatility such a bad thing? He has plenty of time to gain in the position in which he'll become a regular. Most likely that will be CB, but right now what he's doing is good for his education.

How many 19 year olds play for the England national team? We're talking about the England national team. You've got to be exceptional to have a shout and this boy is exceptional. I'd rather have players that are more comfortable playing in a variety of positions rather than just one specific position. It just makes you more dangerous as a player and as a team.

Really dont understand this fetish with sticking a player in one position. He can correct his flaws by also being in other positions too because each position has a different aspect and task to it.
 
Webchat: Phil Jones
ManUtd.com hosted an exclusive live webchat with Phil Jones at Carrington on Thursday, 17 November.

Thanks for your time, Phil. Here's the final question - which is your favourite goal that United have scored so far this season?

Kyriacos Theocharides, Nicosia, Cyprus

Nani's goal against Chelsea was a good one, where he bashed it into the top corner. But I'll say the second goal in the Community Shield because it involved about five players and it was a great finish.

I am number 4 for my team too! Is there any reason behind why you chose it?
Fatik Khan, India

I didn't choose the number. I was given it. I wasn't bothered, really. A number's a number at the end of the day. I could be 99 and it wouldn't bother me. It doesn't mean you're any higher or lower in the pecking order.

Is it difficult to switch between playing in a friendly international in midweek to playing a competitive game for United a few days later?
Stephen Carr, Dundalk, Ireland

No. It's football and it's what I do. It's my job. You always have to adapt to different situations. It's a natural switch. Anyway, no international game is ever a friendly. I still go out and give 100 per cent every time I'm on the pitch.

Which three words would you use to describe your personality?
Pu Zhang, Spain

Cheerful, fearless and optimistic.

What was it like meeting Sir Alex for the first time?
Julie Hutcheon, UK

It was in Seattle, on the US Tour. He came over, I shook his hand and we talked for about 10 minutes. I was really nervous. He was great, though, and he's been fantastic to me since he's been here. When you see him on television you think to yourself, 'I wouldn't like to cross him!', but at Carrington he's relaxed and chilled and you can have a laugh with him.

What kind of a rush do you get when you are playing a game and in which ground do you get the biggest buzz?
Reece Timmins, UK

Old Trafford and Wembley are great. You get shivers down the back of your neck when you walk out at those grounds. I don't get really nervous. I get a few butterflies but I'm not a nervous person. When I do get nervous, I just think: 'Calm down. I'm going out, I'm kicking a ball around and then I'm going home.' That's how I look at it.

Which team-mate is the toughest to play against in training?
Dan Lear, Bristol, UK

Nani. He's tricky. If he makes me look silly though, I usually give him a little pinch on the back of the arm!

Which upcoming youth players do you think have a big chance in breaking through to the first team?
Tyrone Wright, Manchester, UK

Let's be honest, there are a lot of very talented players in our youth and rokeserve teams. I think Will Keane is a good player. Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison are top as well. Larnell Cole and Zeki Fryers look good as well. Those are the guys who have stood our for me when we played Aldershot and when I watched them at Leeds. They sometimes come and train with us as well. To be fair, all the young lads at the club are talented. If they weren't they wouldn't be here.

Where is you favourite holiday destination?
Sameer Varma, India

I'd have to say Dubai. There are loads of shops, nice hotels and good restaurants, and good weather. You can go on safari adventures, you can go up the tallest building... It's nice.

Are you worried that your versatility could count against you and stop you making one position your own?
Gareth Robins, Carterton, UK

No, not at all. I think versatility is always an advantage. It allows you to play more. I don't see how it could be a disadvantage. Hopefully in time I'll nail down a regular place in a set position. For now, though, I'm just happy to play football.

Who are the team jokers off the pitch at United, and have you been the victim of any pranks yet?
Kevin Kevin, USA

Rio Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney are the main ones. They try and make me the victim but it always backfires. I make a swift exit.

If you were able to celebrate your birthday anywhere you wanted, where would you do it?
Fariz Attamimi, Singapore

Las Vegas. I'm going there for my 21st in 2013 and I can't wait.

If you were going to give advice for somebody who wants to make it in football, what would your top five tips be?
Robert Ormson, Runcorn

You have to be focused and you have to know what you want. You have to make a lot of sacrifices. It's not easy when you're growing up to stay in when all your mates are going out. That's tough. You also have to be prepared to give absolutely everything. You can't give 50 per cent or even 99 per cent - you have to give everything you've got when you're on the pitch and on the training ground.

What has been your favourite moment in a Manchester United shirt so far?
Luke Joyce, Sutton Coldfield

My favourite moment was probably winning the Community Shield. I'd never won a competitive trophy before. That was really nice and probably my favourite moment so far. I've had a lot of good moments so far but that was probably the best one. I thought to myself at Wembley: 'I've been here two minutes and I've already got a trophy.' I used to think, 'I can't stand that club when they always score in the last minute.' But now I love it. I'm not complaining one bit.

Do you have any pre-match rituals?
Shanker Vasu, Malaysia

Yeah. This sounds really stupid... but it depends on whether we're home or away. The fixtures list United on the left when we're at home and on the right when we're away. So this weekend I'll put my right sock on first because it will be Swansea v United. Next week, if I play against Benfica at Old Trafford, I'll put my left sock on. I also don't like stepping on white lines on the pitch. And when I do cross a white line then I'll take the first step with the foot that corresponds to whether we're home or away. This will sound proper over-the-top, but you know when you go to a hotel room and there are two towels hanging down? When I was on international duty last week, I picked the towel on the left because we were at home against Spain. I know it's weird but I can't help myself. Nobody knows about it so nobody has ever noticed... although I guess the secret's out now.

It's injury time... which would you rather do, score the winner or stop a goalbound shot?
Aakash Karia, London, UK

Either way you're going to be the hero. But, taking into consideration the fact that I haven't scored a competitive goal in my career yet, I'd have to say score a goal. And then run out of the stadium.

As we all know you're a very versatile player. Which do you consider to be your best position and is there any position you can't play in?
Mark Noble, Ipswich, UK

I used to play right midfield when I was younger. I also played striker when I was younger. The only positions I've never played in are left midfield, left-back and goalkeeper. My favourite position is centre-back and I think that's where I'll end up as my career develops. The bottom line is that I enjoy playing football and I'll play anywhere. I think I'd be decent in goal, to be fair. I'd fling myself around a lot.

What's your favourite TV programme?
Jake Forte, Beziers, UK

I don't have one. I like watching MTV Cribs, Family Guy... I'm not really into soaps or X-Factor or Big Brother. I do like The Only Way Is Essex and I liked The InBetweeners when that was on. I don't like I'm A Celebrity, either. Why would I want to sit and put myself through watching people eat disgusting food?

In your short time at Old Trafford what different things have you learned about your game?
Mark Hughes, Manchester

I think I've come on a lot. Not that I wasn't technically good before - I was reasonable - but when you're training with these guys every day you're bound to improve. My feet have quickened, I can shift the ball a lot quicker. And the more I keep training with these guys the better I'll get. I'm looking forward to that.

If you were to score the winner in a Champions League final what would your goal celebration be like?
Danny Spittle, Stourbridge, UK

I'm not sure but it would probably be worthy of a yellow card (laughs)! I'd probably jump into the crowd, take my top off, slide on my knees... I'd probably run out of the ground and then come back in again. I have no idea... that would be amazing, though.

What do you remember about your first day at United?
Georgian-Sorin Maxim, Denmark

It was in Seattle. I remember coming in with the other Under-21 lads - Danny Welbeck, Chris Smalling and Tom Cleverley. The team had been training and we were sitting in the lunch room eating. Then the squad came in and shook my hand and introduced themselves. I was nervous. Who wouldn't be? I was meeting all these players I'd grown up watching.

Did the older players in the squad make you do any sort of initiation ceremony when you joined the club?
Erik Jonsson, Sweden

They didn't, no. I got away with it! They were all telling me I'd have to do a song. I just told them I wasn't doing one. I probably would have done it if they'd made me. What would I have sung? I'd have probably sung something like The Script's The Man Who Can't Be Moved.

What does it feel like being compared to Duncan Edwards and being touted as the captain of England one day?
Jason Ho, Manchester, UK

It's incredible to hear people saying that. To be mentioned in the same sentence as Duncan Edwards is a huge honour. He was playing well before my time but I certainly knew about him growing up. It inspires me to go on and become a better player. It makes me want to work even harder in training. As for the England captaincy, it's nice as well. But I need to keep my feet on the ground and play well for Manchester United. Then I'll keep getting the chance to play for England. If I could captain England one day then I think that would be the pinnacle of my career.

Phil, who has impressed you the most at United since you joined the club?
Luke Clark, UK

It would be horrible for me to single out one individual player because there are so many talented footballers here. Everybody's good in their own different, talented way. Some people have quick feet and are skilful, others have their own talents. But Giggs probably stands out the most, just because of how physically fit he is. He just keeps on going. You'd never believe how old he is. I'm not calling him old, by the way! He's still young, but his desire to keep playing and keep winning is incredible.

Do you have any fears or phobias?
Alan Flatley, Kilkelly, Ireland

When I go abroad I can't go in lifts. I don't mind it in England but I can't do it when I go away. When I was young we went away on holiday to Greece and we got stuck in a lift for a few hours. It was horrible. I felt so claustrophobic.

If you were asked to play in a World XI at centre-back, who would you like the other three defenders in the line-up to be?
Ryan Walters, Tenby, UK

Wow, that's a tricky one. Good question. At left-back I'll choose Roberto Carlos. At right-back we'll go with Dani Alves. Alongside me in the middle I'll say Gerard Pique. That would be a good back four.

How does it feel to have made such an impact in such a short period of time at the club?
John Alexander, Northern Ireland

It's nice. I probably didn't expect for it to happen this quickly but I'm loving every minute of it. I love playing football and hopefully it can continue if I keep playing well.

How does playing for Manchester United compare to playing for Blackburn Rovers?
Nicola Rea, Preston, UK

Obviously the standard of football is different - that's no disrepect to Blackburn as they were fantastic to me. But playing with better players makes you a better player. The tempo we play at is a lot quicker and the fan base at United is ridiculously huge. It's massive all over the world. Even now, we're probably gettig questions in from people in 80 different countries in the world.

As a footballer do you set your goals short or long term?
Theodosis Charalambous, Cyprus

I think you always have a long-term goal in the back of your mind. You want to be the best you can be. But I tend to set short-term goals because they're more achievable.

What do you want for Christmas?
Shaun Birch, Stroud

My mum keeps asking me this! I don't know. This is going to sound like I'm about 40 but I want some nice paintings and pictures to put around my house. House things... ornaments, tables, chairs. Stuff like that. I've got an obsession with clocks. I've got a pool table and a massive circular one just behind it. I do like watches, too, but I've only just started to get into them.

What is the best thing about Manchester?
Robert Hatton, Warrington, UK

Manchester's a great city. It's got shops and nice restaurants as well as quiet places to go. My favourite restaurants are Wings, Gaucho Grill, Piccolinis, San Carlo... I went to Rosso's, Rio's place, and it was fantastic. I had lamb shank and it was to die for. The meat just capitulated off the bone...

If you play the FIFA / Pro Evo video game do you put yourself in defence, midfield or even up front?
Richard Fry, Burghclere, UK

I'm a FIFA man. All day. I don't use myself on FIFA - I'm too slow! If I do pick myself I play at centre-back. I didn't really get involved in FIFA on the US tour because I'd just joined the club, but I remember playing with Rio Ferdinand once and we won. Wayne thinks he's the FIFA god but I think he's all talk, no action. I played Danny Welbeck the other day and he's currently 6-5 up in terms of games. But I'd like to put it on record that I'm the best FIFA player at the club. I have the finger co-ordination to be the best at this club (on PS3, not X-Box).

You seem to have settled in quickly at United. Has playing with Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley and Chris Smalling at international level helped you in this?
Arman Zamanzadeh, Iran

Yeah, absolutely. I knew them well from the Under-21s setup and grew up with them in that age group. We knew each other's game and we understood each other. It's also nice to come into the club and know you can speak to somebody straight away and not be shy or nervous. Coming to a club like Manchester United can be nerve-wracking but I settled in straight away. Everybody - players and staff - have made me feel very welcome.
 
Webchat: Phil Jones
ManUtd.com hosted an exclusive live webchat with Phil Jones at Carrington on Thursday, 17 November.

I am number 4 for my team too! Is there any reason behind why you chose it?
Fatik Khan, India

I didn't choose the number. I was given it. I wasn't bothered, really. A number's a number at the end of the day. I could be 99 and it wouldn't bother me. It doesn't mean you're any higher or lower in the pecking order.



:lol:
 
What is the best thing about Manchester?
Robert Hatton, Warrington, UK

Manchester's a great city. It's got shops and nice restaurants as well as quiet places to go. My favourite restaurants are Wings, Gaucho Grill, Piccolinis, San Carlo... I went to Rosso's, Rio's place, and it was fantastic. I had lamb shank and it was to die for. The meat just capitulated off the bone...
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Does he write for Lonely Planet?
 
Webchat: Phil Jones
When I do get nervous, I just think: 'Calm down. I'm going out, I'm kicking a ball around and then I'm going home.'

Rio Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney are the main ones. They try and make me the victim but it always backfires. I make a swift exit.

Either way you're going to be the hero. But, taking into consideration the fact that I haven't scored a competitive goal in my career yet, I'd have to say score a goal. And then run out of the stadium.

I'd probably jump into the crowd, take my top off, slide on my knees... I'd probably run out of the ground and then come back in again. I have no idea... that would be amazing, though.

Well we sure know what his Plan B is
 
Can't believe he picked Pique instead of Vidic to play next to in World XI. Barcelona bound when they come knocking surely?