That's because he isn't ready and it was clear in Carling Cup game that we lost. You can't just put a youngster out there for the sake of it, he has a bad performance that costs us points and that's his confidence gone. Pique's mistake at Bolton basically ended his United career.
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That's because he isn't ready and it was clear in Carling Cup game that we lost. You can't just put a youngster out there for the sake of it, he has a bad performance that costs us points and that's his confidence gone. Pique's mistake at Bolton basically ended his United career.
He's probably behind Dazza Gibbo just for now as Fergie will want to raise his value ahead of the transfer window.
Naa, that's nonsense. We just had a clear partnership of Rio and Vidic and no young lad was going to disrupt that. Pique did get a few more games later that season, such as Arsenal with the Hargreaves goal, and did OK. But ultimately, he wanted to take a different route and we were OK with that under the circumstances. Things would be exactly the same without that mistake.
I really think people tend to highlight memorable moments in order to select a moment where 'it's all gone wrong'. It's normally more than that.
As for Pogba, he's not good enough yet. Nowhere near. I'd easily select Gibson ahead of him, for instance, and that speaks volumes.
With our injuries i doubt gibbo is going anywhere this transfer window. Fergie will want a player of some experience to be able to fill in as necessary, prime example being today.
I reckon he's gone in the summer but until then he remains an important squad player.
To be fair Pogba was useless against Palace. For all of his hype he looked completely out of his depth. Morrison on the other hand looked much close to the first team.
i doubt Fergie would play someone just to raise their transfer value. If he picks someone its because he believes they can do a job of some sort for the squad/teamk
if fergei thinks he is not ready yet, then he is not..the gaffer has been doing this for decades now..
if it is up to me then pogba would probably be on the bench today, given the injuries we had but then again, fergie knows things better than us here..
another factor is that fergei rarely promotes young midfielders into regular first team action at 18 or 19..usually those who are good enough will get their chance when they are 21-22, i believe even players like scholes, beckham, butt etc only became regulars when they were in their early 20's..
we might have to wait for a while to see the likes of pogba and morisson to be first team regulars, hopefully they are wise enough to understand this and be patient rather than chasing contracts elsewhere.
if it is up to me then pogba would probably be on the bench today, given the injuries we had but then again, fergie knows things better than us here..
another factor is that fergei rarely promotes young midfielders into regular first team action at 18 or 19..usually those who are good enough will get their chance when they are 21-22, i believe even players like scholes, beckham, butt etc only became regulars when they were in their early 20's..
we might have to wait for a while to see the likes of pogba and morisson to be first team regulars, hopefully they are wise enough to understand this and be patient rather than chasing contracts elsewhere.
im sure fergie knows what he's doing. their time will be soon. patience
I don't see the harm giving the lad a chance in the odd premiership games though like today considering our injury lists...
i think we'll see morrison before we see pogba. imo, he has a better understanding of the game than paul
only if we have something lined up
Gibbo's experience counts for a lot especially in a title race
Despite Pogba's potential i would prefer Gibbo in a vital match if we get a few more knocks in midfield
This.
I don't get this "he played to raise his value" bollocks.
I mean how could any manager do that at a top club.
Its not like Gibson would go for 60 mil if SAF plays him instead of the 5-6.
Pique disagrees. He says Fergie's attitude towards him changed after that day.
probably not the definitive "end" of his United career but it was certainly a contributing factor.
Do you honestly think one moment in a match really affects Fergie's judgement that much? Bottom line was Pique was never going to break into the team at that period and at the end of the season he wanted to go. I don't know what he thought he felt from Fergie. Maybe it was his own guilt.
It seems Fergie likes to give the young ones a platform to impress and I'm sure as the side becomes more settled, we'll see the young ones more
Considering Evans was breaking through at the same time as Piqué, then obviously something changed for Piqué, and it was that Bolton goal. Why would Piqué lie? If he said that Ferguson's attitude changed after that mistake, then it probably did. It was obviously the time that Ferguson realised he wasn't able for English football. There is no way he was let go because Ferguson thought he'd have a partnership of Vidic and Ferdinand and that nobody else would ever play. You need more than two centre backs in your squad. Obviously it wasn't believed at the club about how good Piqué would become, or they would have kept him, or at least make sure they got decent money. A couple of seasons after leaving the club, he becomes one of the best in the world. There is so way they thought he would get that good.
Would love to see the original quote. I remember Pique itself saying it was his dream to return and that it was too hard to break through with Vidic and Rio in top form. Plus, if Fergie would be so tough because of one mistake, our team would consist of 6 players
He was a year away from the end of his contract, and had a chance to go back to Barcelona. It was the right deal for him and the money WAS decent. It's not always about what we want or need, anyway.
Escobar, actually, if Fergie was that tough because of one mistake, our team would have no players at all.
Maybe it was Pique's own guilt that made him feel as though Fergie was treating him differently? Like I said, late on that season, when we needed a centerhalf, he played. It's not like he was wiped out of existance.
Exactly.
Pogba needs to be patient, he's nowhere near ready for the first team as was shown by his performance in the Carling Cup. I'd rather have Gibson in the team than him at the moment, played well yesterday IMO. Pogba will be part of the first team soon enough, right now Fergie obviously has better options to his disposal.
Lossing Pique was a big mistake, he becomes at least twice the player Evans is. On the other hand, if he was still with us I doubt we would go for Smalling and Jones.
Hindsight is a bitch really. He seemed to turn slower than an oil tanker, obviously not the biggest problem in itself but when you got two great kids coming through you pick the one that looks most like making it and that is what Evans did.
Throwing strops does not help either. Pogba will get his chances if he is patient, there is absolutely no doubt about his ability, patience is a virtue apparently. He'll be eased into the team, we don't go around throwing kids into the central midfield, we've never done that. It takes a very special talent to just be thrown into the center of the pitch and be a success (Fabregas), knowing when to throw a youngster into the field has always been something Sir Alex has been great at and I'm sure he got the Pogba entirely under control.
Throwing strops does not help either. Pogba will get his chances if he is patient, there is absolutely no doubt about his ability, patience is a virtue apparently. He'll be eased into the team, we don't go around throwing kids into the central midfield, we've never done that. It takes a very special talent to just be thrown into the center of the pitch and be a success (Fabregas), knowing when to throw a youngster into the field has always been something Sir Alex has been great at and I'm sure he got the Pogba entirely under control.
He hired the same agent of Balotelli and Ibrahimovic (Mino Raiola), a fat strange man from Napoli but grew up in Holland. He currently resides in Monaco and he is working for AC Milan as consultant as well.
In 2008, he was involved in two discipline hearing of Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio (FIGC) for transfer irregularity.
He worked many years as a pizzaman and waiter in Holland (Haarlem).
In 2008, he was involved in two discipline hearing of Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio (FIGC) for transfer irregularity.
He worked many years as a pizzaman and waiter in Holland (Haarlem).
You can always trust the fat agent with slicked back black hair and a grin in almost every photo.
Fact.
Fact.
Seems legit.
Not really, we're fecked.
Not really, we're fecked.
Express and Mail both running stories that City will try and snatch him and Morrison due to there contracts apparently expiring in the summer.
Manchester City eye Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison | Mail Online
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Both have completely ignored Fergie's comments about having an extension clause in Pogba's contract.
Manchester City eye Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison | Mail Online
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | Sport | Football
Both have completely ignored Fergie's comments about having an extension clause in Pogba's contract.
Mail have taken their news from Express only.
Considering the fact that City let one of their brightest young prospects, Daniel Sturridge go speaks volume about them not trusting the younger players. I see this as a non story
City rejected Morrison too before we snapped him up.
He hired the same agent of Balotelli and Ibrahimovic (Mino Raiola), a fat strange man from Napoli but grew up in Holland. He currently resides in Monaco and he is working for AC Milan as consultant as well.
In 2008, he was involved in two discipline hearing of Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio (FIGC) for transfer irregularity.
He worked many years as a pizzaman and waiter in Holland (Haarlem).
He's off then.
Even if he isn't that guy will probably eat him anyway.
Now thats a face that begs for a nice punch.
We never "lost" Pique. His return to Barca was always on the cards. He was homesick and given his family connections with them it wasnt a shock.
He wants money and Raiola too.
We should exercise our one year extension option, and let him rot in the reserves, until the summer of 2013.
Sir Alex Ferguson warns Paul Pogba not to let greed wreck his Manchester United career
Sir Alex Ferguson is set to elevate French prospect Paul Pogba into Manchester United’s Premier League plans, after warning the 18 year-old not to allow financial greed to ruin his chances of a career at Old Trafford.
Sir Alex Ferguson is set to elevate French prospect Paul Pogba into Manchester United’s Premier League plans, after warning the 18 year-old not to allow financial greed to ruin his chances of a career at Old Trafford.
Sir Alex Ferguson warns Paul Pogba not to let greed wreck his Manchester United career - Telegraph
If Pogba leaves then hes a cnut. And a stupid one as well. Time has told that loyalty gives you playtime at United, although you will not get that much playtime before 20 years old. Just look at Fletcher, Gibson, O'Shea, Park. Loyal players that have won loads with United.
Him signing up with that Raiolo fellow really doesnt look good tbh.
Him signing up with that Raiolo fellow really doesnt look good tbh.
They also got a shit load of undeserved abuse from the "fans".
And we nicked Pogba off Le Harve. Someone might do the same to us.
I dont care. I stopped caring about players leaving a while back.
If he goes, he'll soon be replaced by another kid with a lot of potential and the cycle will start all over again.
And we nicked Pogba off Le Harve. Someone might do the same to us.
I dont care. I stopped caring about players leaving a while back.
If he goes, he'll soon be replaced by another kid with a lot of potential and the cycle will start all over again.
Pogba has no loyalty to us mate. He can do what the feck he pleases.
We would wish that he signs on and is thankful for the 2 years of development he has had here but at the end of the day he has zero ties with the club beyond being a player here.
We would wish that he signs on and is thankful for the 2 years of development he has had here but at the end of the day he has zero ties with the club beyond being a player here.
That article is from 2 weeks ago!! Why bother bumping it again today? Since then apparently Pogba has been warming more to the idea of staying!
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