Right, where has he gone now?
Talk of a slight knock making him a doubt prior to the Bolton match is last I remember...
Talk of a slight knock making him a doubt prior to the Bolton match is last I remember...
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Injured in training they said at the weekend.
Anyone know how long is left on his current contract?
He's a bit of a pain isn't he? Frustrates the hell out of me with these injuries. Bulk up!
Fergie said they weren't rushing him back after Scholes returned but I reckon he might be on the bench for Liverpool
Thanks for that.
I reckon he has 18 months max left with us. Im sure I'll get the usual response from his fans but sometimes a player no matter how potentially talented just isnt the one for us.
This isnt based on his injuries or not giving him a chance. Its based on his performaces for us. Simply not good enough. A 9/10 performance once every 10 games isnt what we need. His bottom level is akin to a non league footballer.
Wow. Really? I'm a non-league footballer, I wish I was half as good as Anderson's bottom level.
He hasnt fulfilled his potential yet. I have no problems waiting tho. The boss decides when/if his time runs out. Till then, I have hope.
These constant niggling knocks arent helping either.
Clearly has the talent. Can turn it around any time now. Nani did it.
These constant niggling knocks arent helping either.
Clearly has the talent. Can turn it around any time now. Nani did it.
He really is getting kind of tiresome. It seems that every season we keep saying that he needs to show some consistency or it could be time to sell. He always starts out well, has a few very good performances and everyone is convinced this is the season he'll finally make his big break. This is almost immediately followed by a long term injury and then a period of poor form. Has he had a season with us yet where he hasn't gotten a long term injury?
I'm not saying I've completely giving up on him at all, but he certainly can't be someone Sir Alex is relying on to be a continuous starter, which he seemed to think would be the case this year. He really is a very frustrating player.
I'm not saying I've completely giving up on him at all, but he certainly can't be someone Sir Alex is relying on to be a continuous starter, which he seemed to think would be the case this year. He really is a very frustrating player.
Excited to see him and Cleverley back together, hopefully soon. They really started the season on fire.
Every summer, looking forward to the coming season, I count myself in that number. He just seems to have such quality on his day, I cant believe he wont find some consistency and become the centre mid we all want him to be - and, frankly, need.
You cant hold it against him that he gets injured a lot tho. Maybe he will be one of those players that circumstances prevent from ever becoming the player they can be. Or maybe he just wont become that player for us.
I hope he does tho. Seems SAF is very patient with him, he must see the potential for the quality to burst through.
I definitely agree, it's just starting to get old now. I feel like the same discussions take place every summer and the same results occur every season. He very obviously has great potential but how long will we wait for him to fully realize it? It's not that I want us to give up on him, I'm just finally starting to get frustrated by it all.
Injuries have quite a bit to do with it too though. It was the first time in all his time at the club that he had a pre season behind him and it showed in the way he started the season. He was brilliant. Then came the bloody injuries again. He's inconsistent, agreed but injuries have meant he's never really got a great chance at working on it either.
Yeah that's the important part here.
I can't believe a player like Anderson won't eventually find some consistency, playing with a settled partner will also help a young midfielder in that regard.
We had to wait a while for Fletcher to finally "make it" here. Some players take longer than others. He is still very young for a midfielder, I think it is still worth staying with him at the moment as he could become a brilliant player for us. He also seems to be in better shape than he has for a while. I think we will see the best of him over the next few months
If I remember correctly though he basically was getting steadily worse as the games went on. He started out brilliantly and just slowly got worse and worse until he finally got injured. He still didn't really have that much consistency from what I remember, maybe 2-3 really good games, 2-3 solid games, and then a couple poor ones, in that order.
And I know it isn't right to fault him on his injuries, but they definitely are a major problem. I can't remember a season he's been here where he hasn't suffered a long term injury of some sort.
Yes he did. He's always been very inconsistent which is a shame. Even if he played at 80% of his best week in week out, i'd take the deal. He's approaching an age where consistency and peaks wont be good enough excuses. Considering our weaknesses at the position, if we do actually buy a quality player there, the competition will get even tougher with carrick doing well and cleverley showing great promise.
People need only look at Xavi as a textbook example of midfielders reaching their prime later in life. Xavi had always been consistent, but never great. Much like Anderson there or there abouts. He then proceeded to blossom into one of the best midfielders of all time around 27/28 years of age. Anderson has undeniable talent. It is only consistency that brings him down. It's why Fergie is giving him as much time as he needs.
Perhaps people with Deco in their usernames should take a look at his career as well. He was 25 before he became a top player.
Perhaps people with Deco in their usernames should take a look at his career as well. He was 25 before he became a top player.
I sense a problem here.
I don't see them 2 being the future. Certainly not in a 2 man midfield anyway.
The problem is that Anderson seems regressing rather then improving. His first year with us was much better then his last years. Not to forget how unfortunate he is with injuries.
Well thank you captain obvious 
Thats more poor sentence structure and me not reading over my post rather than a genuine mistake. The there or there about's was alluding to being in and around the first team but never the key midfield player that he is now. That was usually taken up by the likes of Deco, Ronaldinho and Edmilson during their time there.
Players like anderson seem to have a remarkable way of staying injury free and playing well just before its time to sign a new contact! They dont seem to look half as good once the contract is signed! Even though he can be great, to be honest I was hoping to see the back of him before he signed the new contact last season. I think we could bring in a more effective youngster than him if we managed to ever flog him.
I don't think he's gone backwards, I won't agree with that at all.
In this season, he's largely been good to very good when he's played. Consistancy wise, I see a lot of improvement, and when it comes to learning the trade as a midfielder, he's come on a lot since his early days.
What's a big problem is him being so prone to injuries. It's bloody annoying. And it creates the sort of stop/start enviroment in his career which makes his development go rather slowly.
I think he's a much more useful player now than when we signed him, in a two-man midfield, albeit a little less spectacular. What would happen if we'd moulded him into a pure AM, say, is impossible to tell. I fear he'd lack the end product for that anyway, and Rooney plays a similar role now too.
In this season, he's largely been good to very good when he's played. Consistancy wise, I see a lot of improvement, and when it comes to learning the trade as a midfielder, he's come on a lot since his early days.
What's a big problem is him being so prone to injuries. It's bloody annoying. And it creates the sort of stop/start enviroment in his career which makes his development go rather slowly.
I think he's a much more useful player now than when we signed him, in a two-man midfield, albeit a little less spectacular. What would happen if we'd moulded him into a pure AM, say, is impossible to tell. I fear he'd lack the end product for that anyway, and Rooney plays a similar role now too.
He used to be a good footballer in Porto until he took an arrow to the knee
Xavi at Anderson's current age was so much worse than Xavi has been since 2008/09.
these comparisons are silly...Anderson will have to improve by miles to even come close to being mentioned in the same breathe as Xavi. He's actually gone backwards in the last few years in terms of development (if you want to call it that).
I don't believe I've ever watched him perform well for even a month straight in the past few years (5 game span) so in terms of consistency he's absolutely dreadful. Most of his terrible games in fact have come against teams you'd expect us to dominate so that to me just speaks more about his own drive and commitment to become the very best. He's a decent player, but we didn't pay top money for decent.
At the current rate he'll be remembered in 5 years as the next Brazilian so and so who promised so much but ultimately couldn't ever live up to the hype.
I don't believe I've ever watched him perform well for even a month straight in the past few years (5 game span) so in terms of consistency he's absolutely dreadful. Most of his terrible games in fact have come against teams you'd expect us to dominate so that to me just speaks more about his own drive and commitment to become the very best. He's a decent player, but we didn't pay top money for decent.
At the current rate he'll be remembered in 5 years as the next Brazilian so and so who promised so much but ultimately couldn't ever live up to the hype.
How many posters have seen or remember Xavi's first seasons playing for Barcelona? He wasn't exactly a superstar at that time.
We're not actually trying to compare him to Xavi as a footballer, but the progression of development of central midfielders. Xavi is just a great example. Scholes probably would be too, but he spent his earlier years playing in much further forward role before coming back and picking up well in the midfield.
He backtracks more these days and has more awareness to what is going around but he was certainly more effective and creative with us in his first year with us. Don't forget that at that time Anderson was considered one of the most promising midfielders coming through. He was even hailed a greater talent then Nani by critics like Piet De Visser. Injuries have played their part but look at his now
Xavi was player of the year in Spain when he was 1 year older than current Anderson.
I cannot say Anderson has improved since joining Man United and I also cannot say he went the opposite direction.Inconsistency and injuries have ruined his interesting potential so far
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