Conversely you were 8 points ahead of your noisy neighbours and threw it all away.
Arsenals chances of a top 4 finish this season
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I don't think they're that far from a title challenge to be honest. Sagna and Wilshere back for a full season and another defender and that'll be a massive improvement.
All depends on how much they invest. I expect them to be 3rd again but probably a little closer to the top two.
All depends on how much they invest. I expect them to be 3rd again but probably a little closer to the top two.
But Wigan effectively overhauled a deficit and had a very exciting season in the end which for you was considered a barometer of success.
No one really cares about the KO stages of the CL especially if you get knocked out. The only thing I remember from this year is that you got stuffed 4-0 at an aging Milan.
not obsession but the delight that there has been no shift in power, like there has been in Manchester.
Yes. But I'd still rather be challenging for the title, and come within a minute of winning it, than winning a scrap for 3rd position and that becoming the main "achievement" for the season.
I never used that logic. Peterstorey did when he said Arsenal had a better season because they overhauled a target which is what Wigan did.
My logic is that United had a better season than Arsenal because they finished 19 points ahead. That's all.
Arsenal will be top four next year.
Probably 3rd, maybe 4th.
Playing for nothing from Christmas.
Another safe, boring, vanilla, Sunday walk in the park season.
Probably 3rd, maybe 4th.
Playing for nothing from Christmas.
Another safe, boring, vanilla, Sunday walk in the park season.
The power shifted to West London in fairness.
It's a lot better than getting blown out by Basel and co and then getting the bum's rush from the Europa with a home thrashing.
Bit funny too see a team winning absolutely nothing for the last seven and eight years and continuously losing their best players taunting a team like us which has basically won everything in those years.
Not really in the same way we both got the same result in the league in the end, we got the same result in the Champions League.
I really don't know why you lot are biting. With pete I can sort of understand it, but Trionz is rubbish at this.
You guys never learn, do you?
well possibly, it might take departure of another marquee player to drag us in Europa.
But for some clubs, it takes massive summer intakes and yet demotion to Europa, because they can't beat a fecking Basel.
We didn't have "massive summer intakes".
The simple fact is you were fecking shite this season and you only made it into the CL this year due to the inadequacies of those around you (Chelsea, Liverpool, & Newcastle choking). There's no comparison between United and Arsenal this season or last, we're comfortably superior to you in all areas...as evidenced by the points differential in the 2010/11/12 seasons.
Woohoo winning the there is no power shift trophy this season. Emirates trophy not enough?
He is even laughing at his own jokes. Strange guy.
that is nullified by you dropping to Europa.
Remember we are talking about Overall season.
Eh? Of course there's been a shift in power.
Are you really too young to remember a time when Arsenal were right up there competing for league titles and Spurs were an irrelevance miles below them in the table? In the season just gone, the two teams have been almost neck and neck throughout. That's a big shift in the balance of power right there.
Of course, the difference between the shift in power in Manchester and London is that United's rivals have had a billion quid pumped into the team and improved enormously.
The Spurs-Arsenal shift in power just involves Arsenal getting slightly more shit and Spurs slightly less so. A lot less high octane and interesting than the Manchester drama - as power struggles go - but must be frustrating as hell for most rational gooners regardless.
Never mind, I'm sure they will be happy at losing their only World Class player, 3rd or 4th position at best next season and an exit from the CL in the early knockouts next year.
So a clear 19 point gap is nullified by dropping to Europa. Righto.
If Arsenal got as far as the semis then yeah maybe but since you fell flat on your face the next round it matters little.
Is there actually any point in Arsenal being in the Champions League, other than the revenue they get from it.
Dude, you are trying too hard.
Yup, they will again heroically finish third or fourth spot with no hope of winning the title. I do wonder though, who'll leave them in the next year. Ox, Wilshere or Song?
Well it helps provide a breeding ground for their parent club City
Nobody is falling to be fair.
Finishing higher than Spurs again being their biggest achievement of the year.
Wilshere hasn't played a minute of football this season and it wouldn't surprise me to see him miss a whole lot next year, so I can't see anyone coming in for him. Ox will probably be there for a couple more years until a bigger club wants him, but I could definitely see Song going after another trophyless season in North London.
Yeah, well, anyway, when we get Hazard and Kagawa we're going to shit all over everyone.
I kinda have missed the usual arrogant gunner stance
Falling for what?
Storey is always good for a bit of back and forth.
You come across as the Arsenal Dumbstar.
If Wenger has learnt anything from last season, it's that he needs to get his transfer business done before he starts cavorting around in his budgie smugglers.
Eight years ago you'd won the title, unbeaten, a full 45 points ahead of Spurs. Double our number of points. Since then, we've both won one trophy and you only finished one point ahead of us this season, on the final day.
Yep, its the status quo still up in North London.
51 years ago you won the title. But you've finished behind us for the last 16 even after our horror start and you being 10 points ahead with about 10 games to go.Eight years ago you'd won the title, unbeaten, a full 45 points ahead of Spurs. Double our number of points. Since then, we've both won one trophy and you only finished one point ahead of us this season, on the final day.
Yep, its the status quo still up in North London.
You still have to Mind that Gap.
But we're talking about the recent power shift Pete. But excuse me, obviously there has been no movement, Arsenal are still in the same old dominant position they once were.
True. But a one point gap just seems so much less intimidating than a 45 one would you not agree?
Quite how you had a better season than Man utd I'm not really sure either.
Hold on a second. Are we allowed to wipe a bad run of games from the record, when we're assessing the season as a whole?
Woohoo! We won the league!
We still finished ahead of Spurs despite a poor start compounded by having to qualify for the CL. You finished behind City.
just the same way you are always keen to point at Newcastle, Spurs and Chelsea's form when discussing Arsenal, while completely ignoring Arsenal early season drop in form to allow them team that much distance in first place.
True, you got a good team there, and i do hope Chelsea don't win CL; else that one point gap would still equate to 45 points.