Eden Hazard | "I am signing for Chelsea"

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just to add something to the wage debate.

if hazard is looking at minimum of £80-90k as people are suggesting. Surley pogba is not over egging himself wanting more than £20k?

Also.......can somebody please tell me.....has anybody actually seen him play 90 minutes??? more than once???
 
Lynk said:
Rooney was hit and miss for more of this season and yet still tied 09-10 in goalscoring, and probably had more assists to boot.
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In the league Rooney only had 3 or 4 assists IIRC. Not sure what it was in 09.
 
Didn't Bebatov's agents say a couple of months ago that Fergie was intending to focus much more on pace within the team and that this was essentially why Berba was leaving/being left out. It's been suggested elsewhere that Kagawa would be the potential replacement for Bebatov's squad place but if Hazard's preferred position is more central then it's entirely plausable that this is where Fergie intends Hazard to play and would fall into line with the suggestion that he wants to maximise the pace within the squad. If this is indeed the case then Hazard wouldn't necessarily be competing directly with our other wingers but filling a vacated squad place in a position with much less competition.
 
gormless said:
No opinion here, i just wanted to jump into the Caf's pack mentality and also, i've always wanted to use this gif. seemed like a pretty perfect opportunity
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When he got the number 10 instead of the 8, Fergie made it clear that he saw Rooney as a striker. I goal getter. When he played with Berbatov in 09/10 he fulfilled that role and got us lots of goals. He's got us lots of goals from deeper this season but as good as he is, he's not creative enough in that role.

Playing Hazard behind him, Welbeck or Hernandez would be a hell of a lot more productive for all parties IMO.
 
ben_foster said:
just to add something to the wage debate.

if hazard is looking at minimum of £80-90k as people are suggesting. Surley pogba is not over egging himself wanting more than £20k?

Also.......can somebody please tell me.....has anybody actually seen him play 90 minutes??? more than once???
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Hazard has won personal accolades and is one of the most sought after youngsters around at the moment. Pogba on the other hand has played a few minutes of first team football.
 
Gonna get some stick, but Rooney hasn't been influential in that no.10 position at all this season, yes he scored goals but in terms of performances I'd say his season hasn't been that good.

Maybe Fergie wants him to move to his primary position.
 
Raulduke said:
Didn't Bebatov's agents say a couple of months ago that Fergie was intending to focus much more on pace within the team and that this was essentially why Berba was leaving/being left out. It's been suggested elsewhere that Kagawa would be the potential replacement for Bebatov's squad place but if Hazard's preferred position is more central then it's entirely plausable that this is where Fergie intends Hazard to play and would fall into line with the suggestion that he wants to maximise the pace within the squad. If this is indeed the case then Hazard wouldn't necessarily be competing directly with our other wingers but filling a vacated squad place in a position with much less competition.
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If Hazard wants to play as a number 10, we'd be back to the four "strikers" Fergie favours. Welbeck, Rooney, Hernandez and Hazard.

Rooney can play advanced or deep, ditto Welbeck. Hazard would only play deep and Hernandez would only lead the line. Seems nicely balanced to me. Gives us loads of options, especially with Hazard also comfortable out wide.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Seems to me that Mata, Silva and Hazard are similar players, in terms of how they play and where they want to play.

Two of them already have a club in the Premier League. The third is looking for one.
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I think Chelsea not having a permanent manager should make a big difference for him.

Mancini can claim he will be played there and get games but that is surely an empty promise with Aguero, Silva and Nasri.

Chelsea can't promise anything and as you say have Mata already.

United have Ferguson who can tell him exactly what he thinks and point to Ronaldo to how he can develop a player.
 
ben_foster said:
just to add something to the wage debate.

if hazard is looking at minimum of £80-90k as people are suggesting. Surley pogba is not over egging himself wanting more than £20k?

Also.......can somebody please tell me.....has anybody actually seen him play 90 minutes??? more than once???
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Yes, but not more than 5 times. A very good player with massive potential. Personally I think that he's better than Goetze and also has more potential than him. Also I think that he's even better than Neymar (not in the same position but these 3 players are being considered as 3 best U21 players in the world).

Still, my knowledge about him is very limited, in 4-5 games people can create an opinion but that doesn't mean that their opinion is correct.
 
I can't be the only one who sees us playing a front three of Rooney, Welbeck and Nani. The interplay could be terrifying. It's Valencia who I see getting less games in the future. As fantastic as he is, we seem to be looking to play a different way.
Of course the real answer is Valencia at right back...
 
Chabon said:
I can't be the only one who sees us playing a front three of Rooney, Welbeck and Nani. The interplay could be terrifying. It's Valencia who I see getting less games in the future. As fantastic as he is, we seem to be looking to play a different way.
Of course the real answer is Valencia at right back...
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Valencia is shit at right back, and on merit if anyone should be dropped of those 4, it's welbeck, I think he was about as inconsistent as Hernandez this season. Although many people will not agree with that.
 
Pexbo said:
I think Chelsea not having a permanent manager should make a big difference for him.

Mancini can claim he will be played there and get games but that is surely an empty promise with Aguero, Silva and Nasri.

Chelsea can't promise anything and as you say have Mata already.

United have Ferguson who can tell him exactly what he thinks and point to Ronaldo to how he can develop a player.
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Yeah, forgot about those two.

Chelsea would seem to be in the best position to offer him games but, as others have pointed out, there's a huge amount of uncertainty about them at the moment. Sure they had a streaky run in the CL but they were still shit for the vast majority of the season and need a total overhaul.
 
Lynk said:
Valencia is shit at right back, and on merit if anyone should be dropped of those 4, it's welbeck, I think he was about as inconsistent as Hernandez this season. Although many people will not agree with that.
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Danny Welbeck is going be first choice for the foreseeable future. Not only is he a wonderfully talented footballer, he also works incredibly hard, and, get this, is from Manchester. Fergie absolutely fecking loves him.
 
Whoever he choses it'll be refreshing for a young player to do so based on football related reasons and not £££'s thats for sure.

And if it football related reason I reckon we'll have the best chance as a overall package we're hard to beat. That said, I still worry it might come down to money.
 
Interval Level said:
I genuinely am thinking Chelsea now. I really can't see SAF assuring him a free role behind a striker if that's what he is after.
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I'm thinking that too.. but I'm not sure who is assuring him of anything at Chelsea.
There is a good chance they'll sack their manager.
 
Chabon said:
Danny Welbeck is going be first choice for the foreseeable future. Not only is he a wonderfully talented footballer, he's also works incredibly hard, and, get this, is from Manchester. Fergie absolutely fecking loves him.
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We really can't know it. If one of Hazard/Kagawa comes here (or even both which I think is unlikely) I can seee Rooney playing as central striker with one of those two as attacking midfielder.

Still, the best part is that potentially we'll have 60 games during a season, so there should be plenty of games for both Welbeck and Hernandez.
 
Eden Hazard has confirmed he will be joining Manchester City, Manchester United or Chelsea for next season.

The Belgium international is set to make his decision in the coming weeks as the Lille star takes into account a number of variables.

He admits that it will depend on how often he will play and where he will play for his new side.

Arsenal and Tottenham had also been linked with a deal for the 21-year-old forward, but he now admits that it will be one of the Manchester giants or

"I do not know when a decision will be made about my future club," he told the Belgian media after training with the national side.

"It will be between Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

"The final choice also depends on how much play that I would get and the position where I play.

"Not everyone can say that he can choose from these three clubs."



http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7776241/
 
prateik said:
I'm thinking that too.. but I'm not sure who is assuring him of anything at Chelsea.
There is a good chance they'll sack their manager.
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Exactly. He can't get any guarentees there. There's no point in talking to Di Matteo. They don't have a manager. If it's about football, they shouldn't even be in the running right now.
 
Chabon said:
Danny Welbeck is going be first choice for the foreseeable future. Not only is he a wonderfully talented footballer, he also works incredibly hard, and, get this, is from Manchester. Fergie absolutely fecking loves him.
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The latter point is why I think people are harboring too much hope. Welbeck has shown some glimpses of quality but I don't remember watching a game of his this season and thinking "Christ, out of this world display, man of the match" but I will take this back if someone recalls one. Thing is, Welbeck doesn't strike me as a goalscorer, he played much more than Hernandez last season yet finished on the same amount of goals as him, yet the latter was thought to have had a terrible season.
 
Lynk said:
The latter point is why I think people are harboring too much hope. Welbeck has shown some glimpses of quality but I don't remember watching a game of his this season and thinking "Christ, out of this world display, man of the match" but I will take this back if someone recalls one.
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...are you joking, or do you actually have the memory of a fish?

edit: Or to be more generous, perhaps you've blocked it out.
 
Well, we played against the third best defence in the league about a month ago, in a match we had to win, and Danny Welbeck absolutely tore them apart.
 
Ismail Elezi said:
Why not?
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Because we play 2 strikers against most teams. If we were to have a player like Hazard, he'd be like Ronaldo. License to roam but primarily starting from the wing. Unless SAF thinks he can shove Rooney up top with Hazard off of him. But that sounds highly unlikely.

This is obviously considering that he just can't play in a 2 man midfield or refuses to.

prateik said:
I'm thinking that too.. but I'm not sure who is assuring him of anything at Chelsea.
There is a good chance they'll sack their manager.
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I think its the other way round. He says I want to play in an XYZ position, they say: "We can do that, sure"

I think Chelsea are setting themselves for a 4-2-3-1 with Ramires, Hazard and Mata off Torres.

EDIT: Not to mention I think he'll get way more games at Chelsea than the other 2 clubs
 
Interval Level said:
Because we play 2 strikers against most teams. If we were to have a player like Hazard, he'd be like Ronaldo. License to roam but primarily starting from the wing. Unless SAF thinks he can shove Rooney up top with Hazard off of him. But that sounds highly unlikely.

This is obviously considering that he just can't play in a 2 man midfield or refuses to.



I think its the other way round. He says I want to play in an XYZ position, they say: "We can do that, sure"

I think Chelsea are setting themselves for a 4-2-3-1 with Ramires, Hazard and Mata off Torres.
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Yes we do but that doesn't mean that we will continue with that formation. In 2007-2009 in many games (especially in big ones) we started only with Rooney up front. Also playing with 2 strikers mean that we'll be overruned in midfield which was the case in many games this season.
 
Chabon said:
Well, we played against the third best defence in the league about a month ago, in a match we had to win, and Danny Welbeck absolutely tore them apart.
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Everton? Well I'll conceede that then. I had to leave the match when we were 4-2 up, thinking we had it won, only to come back to check Livescore and see we drew 4-4 :(
 
Question is will we give him enough games and will we play him in his preferred position.Got to say no on both counts.
 
Interval Level said:
Because we play 2 strikers against most teams. If we were to have a player like Hazard, he'd be like Ronaldo. License to roam but primarily starting from the wing. Unless SAF thinks he can shove Rooney up top with Hazard off of him. But that sounds highly unlikely.

This is obviously considering that he just can't play in a 2 man midfield or refuses to.



I think its the other way round. He says I want to play in an XYZ position, they say: "We can do that, sure"

I think Chelsea are setting themselves for a 4-2-3-1 with Ramires, Hazard and Mata off Torres.

EDIT: Not to mention I think he'll get way more games at Chelsea than the other 2 clubs
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Thats the point.
Who is 'they'?
 
If they hadn't got those two goals back it'd be probably my favourite ever United match, the attack was simply stunning in that second half. We've played our best football of late when Nani, Rooney and Welbeck were on the pitch, and I can see that becoming a regular combination.
 
Ismail Elezi said:
Yes we do but that doesn't mean that we will continue with that formation. In 2007-2009 in many games (especially in big ones) we started only with Rooney up front. Also playing with 2 strikers mean that we'll be overruned in midfield which was the case in many games this season.
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Yes, but unlike 2007-09 we aren't packed with players who suit the traditional winger roles more. Nani, Valencia and Young all arguably play their best on the wings. Not to mention dropping either Welbeck or Hernandez for large parts of the season.

If we sign him, I'm guessing he'll start from the left of a 4-4-2 and roam.
 
The bottom line is if Hazard is anywhere near as good as he's hyped to be then Fergie will find a way to play him regardless. He also seems extremely confident in his own ability, so I can't see him refusing to sign for United in case Ashley Young or Danny Welbeck might keep him out of the team.

At least if he is, he'll also be worried about fighting for his place with the likes of Daniel Sturridge, Malouda or Lukaku.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The bottom line is if Hazard is anywhere near as good as he's hyped to be then Fergie will find a way to play him regardless. He also seems extremely confident in his own ability, so I can't see him refusing to sign for United in case Ashley Young or Danny Welbeck might keep him out of the team.
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I keep completely forgetting Young in all these debates about out future formations. Fergie seems to love him.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The bottom line is if Hazard is anywhere near as good as he's hyped to be then Fergie will find a way to play him regardless. He also seems extremely confident in his own ability, so I can't see him refusing to sign for United in case Ashley Young or Danny Welbeck might keep him out of the team.

At least if he is, he'll also be worried about fighting for his place with the likes of Daniel Sturridge, Malouda or Lukaku.
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Yeah. In a nutshell. My contention is that we won't shift to a 4-5-1 with Rooney as the only striker even if we sign him.
 
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