Which you always will when talking about a flair player. Few players constantly deliver and the most inconsistent players are flair players.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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How many nutmegs did Nani pull off yesterday? That was astonishing, and they were all in a ten minute window.
Seems to lack his electric pace though.
Seems to lack his electric pace though.
He had a few moments after the goal where he breezed past people but then he decided to check back after getting in a good position. He's just on a rough patch for me but like I said he still made things happen either through his quality on the ball and from his general movement.
My impression is that attitude-wise they re the same...
I thought he did well. His shooting was completely off but he set up the first and was a thread throughout the match.
What do they say about Rooney again? Ah, he might perform like shit, but is always capable of that one moment to create something.... Nani did exactly that today.
Perform like shit? Well that's not true. It wasnt one of his best games but he was hardly shit, or are you another one basing it off a couple of bad shots he took on? It seems like people want to remember the things that dont come off for nani rather than the chances he creates. He set up Welbeck a few times in the first half, yet he played like shit and only had one good moment
If it was the case that he were to go, that is perhaps the only player that I would want him replaced by. Similar levels of skill, and wouldn't cost £35m.
Wouldn't really make sense for me to sell Nani and bring in Ben Arfa. Newcastle would likely charge a fair bit so we probably wouldn't make that much and although ben arfa has been good he's not as good as Nani and a similar age, so I don't really see the logic behind it. If we had sold Nani and brought in a young winger like lucas/Hazard I could understand it even if I don't want to see him get sold, but buying a winger of the same age, when the majority out there aren't as good as him would be odd imo.
Some people on here reckon Nani would go for £40million, if he went for anything like that we'd make a huge profit on the transfers. Ben Arfa wouldn't cost much more than £20m.
I can't see anyone paying close to that though.
I can't see anyone paying close to that though.
Andy Carroll went for 35, so It's not absurd to think he would go for a similiar amount.
That was the dafted transfer in history though, it is not a legitimate benchmark. Plus the fee was based on the £50m Chelsea were paying for Torres, with Newcastle demaning £15m less, so it was a very particular situation.
Think it would be 30ish, but if Fergie sold at 28m I wouldn't actually be surprised, though personally I think thats a bit cheap.
Newcastle wont sell any of their star players on the cheap. Ba, Cisse, Cabaye, Tiote and Ben Arfa will all go for over 20 million.
I saw the highlights and he did absolutely brilliantly in the buildup to the first goal. The way he took the defender on the outside and then beat him by coming was fantastic.
Yeah 40 is too much, Carroll may have gone for 35m but the likes of Modric and Fabregas went for around £30mil which is a better indication of what Nani could realistically go for, less given he only has 2 years left. In that sort of situation what Nasri went for, around £24mil would probably be good. So if we did sell him for around that and then bought in Ben Arfa, we'd effectively be trading in an inferior player. If we brought in a young winger with potential then that'd make sense, a ben arfa though doesn't particularly if Nani isn't favoured due to inconsistency or something like that.
Really polarises opinion. Admittedly I missed the first half yesterday but from what I saw in the second I though he was good. None of my mates felt the same, some even claiming he was 'terrible'. Nearly everybody seems to have a different opinion on the fella.
I thought he did ok yesterday, but he's clearly not playing at the top of his game. I don't see us selling him though. Our failure to land Hazard or Moura rules that out.
You need an awful lot of patience with him. He'll do so many wrong things in a game but you know he's capable at any given moment of making a game winning contribution. I can tolerate his frustrating moments but i know many others that can't have him at all.
Yeah... I said that Ben Arfa would go for that amount.
Not sure why the others are relevant, but don't think they will all go for £20m+ anyway.
Anyone notice he runs with the ball as if he has a lollipop in his mouth? He always has that look, makes it a bit weird to watch him sometimes 
Watching the highlights I noticed he played the first time ball to put Welbeck through on the move that lead to the penalty. Strange that I missed out on quite a number of good things he did when I saw the match live.
Anyone notice he runs with the ball as if he has a lollipop in his mouth? He always has that look, makes it a bit weird to watch him sometimes
It's when he tries to do something special, it makes him look like a complete retard, I hated seeing it a couple years back, but now it's like a sign of him about to try something different. He is probably the worst poker player ever.
You cannot take that as a benchmark.
Here's the thing, i missed the game on the tele, came on here and thought nani had a nightmare based on the comments being spewed about.
Having known the 4-0 result, i proceeded to watch a replay of the game without any sense of frustration as I knew the outcome. Nani actually had a really good game. Its only because he had a few crap moments notably two terrible attempts at goal and didn't really produce the magic that he's known for, that he was criticised on here for having a bad game.
I think people firstly have such high standards for nani, in part because of his portuguese predecessor ronaldo and secondly because of what they know nani is capable of, and secondly, people are frustrated as they watch the game live thinking of missed chances, fearing that a couple of poor moments may cost united the game, that it clouds their judgement of overall performance.
Nani had a solid, good game, kept things simple and ticking - couple of shite moments but otherwise, played very well. At least that's how i saw it, being all relaxed knowing the result. FWIW, I probably would have thought he'd had a crap game if i'd been watching live.
So maybe here's an alternative way of judging players - watch the replay when you're relaxed about the outcome?
Nani needs to be signed long term.
He has developed nicely and the best is still ahead. Nani has the perfect body type for longevity if he stays clear of major injuries.
Only 25! He will have the explosiveness and quickness well into his 30's id say. He has that lean and incredibly ripped muscle mass.
He has developed nicely and the best is still ahead. Nani has the perfect body type for longevity if he stays clear of major injuries.
Only 25! He will have the explosiveness and quickness well into his 30's id say. He has that lean and incredibly ripped muscle mass.
Could of had maybe 5-6 assists tonight, easily. For all the times he makes you frustrated, he sets up chance after chance, and on another night we would have put those chances away. His passing and link-up play is phenomenal. How many one on ones did he provide tonight? Bad penalty though, I'd have felt more confident with RVP taking it.
In second half, he could've easily created 4-5 goals. Great match.
This, excellent Second Half after an average First. Really good link-up play in the Second Half. As Plech said when he doesn't think he's an excellent player.
Agreed - thought he also did his shift defensively as well.
Not everything was coming off for him, but he does continually create chances.
But he is frustrating! I want players who don't frustrate me 
Was very good tonight. He made about 800 chances and not one was out away. Shite penalty will no doubt cloud people's opinion, but he was class.
Yes, people will ramble on about him being frustrating, but he always creates chances... For his teammates to feck up as was the case tonight.
Couldn't agree more. Sat thinking that Nani should have had several assists. His link-up play with Kagawa in particular, but also Evra is phenomenal! I also liked his "free" role where he roamed around the pitch quite a bit.
Looked very sharp, but his shooting boots have gone missing, and that penalty was useless. Have we really missed on all our three penalties this year? Mind you, we should have had two more, but they should've had at least one too.
His passing is generally poor. Loses possession more than any other player (that's fact by the way)
People will somehow remember a bad shot he had in the first half, yet they wont remember how bad the finishing was for some of the chances he created. He played well tonight and was one of our better players.
Yeah agree with that and still people wanted him off. Out most dangerous player tonight. Also hopefully people won't doubt his football intelligence. He plate some great passes all night, showing excellent awareness. Think his selfishness which is what you expect from a player of his type gets mistaken for poor intelligence.
Either way a good game for him that could have been great with a bit of luck, really poor pen though. His link up with kagawa looks really good.
You're a bit retarded aren't you.
A mixed performance, missed the penalty, but overall had a good game.
Not tonight anyway.
He's probably the most frustrating player I've seen for us. Yes his link-up play can be fantastic, when it's all happening at 100mph. But so often he gets the ball in space, controls it brilliantly or skips past his man, and then does completely the wrong thing. It's infuriating. But yes he's amazing.
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