Yeah, what a cruel hatchet job I've done on the lad.
Reading all that vitriol I wonder if I really support United at all.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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Yeah, what a cruel hatchet job I've done on the lad.
Reading all that vitriol I wonder if I really support United at all.
fecked if I know, fecked if I'm arsed to find out.
Fact is, his pass completion was just fine and he created multiple goal scoring opportunities for his teammates.
Any footballer in the World who isn't Messi should strive to be Ronaldo.
For a lad with a "chip on his shoulder", he don't half come off as a humble, polite lad in all interviews.
I don't think I've ever seen a crap post ignored at the caf. It always gets stick and that's the way it should be so we have less of those kind of posts.
huh? you were arsed to find out his pass completion stats, surely it must have had out of how many attempts as well?
I just find it amusing how some of you always seem to be annoyed when certain posters like a United player "too much".
I could understand it, if you were annoyed by someone constantly criticizing a United player or someone constantly praising a opponent-player. But people shouldn't be ridiculed for liking United players. Unless they're Vuc and only like said player because of his nationality.
51 completed passes I think so 64/65 attempted. Everyone can relax now.
huh? obviously not, hence why I couldn't be arsed finding out. Here you go, as posted 2-3 pages back....
huh? obviously not, hence why I couldn't be arsed finding out. Here you go, as posted 2-3 pages back....
If you click on passing it gives you a breakdown...
Ah, cheers for the tip.
Some of us who? Nobody is insulting anyone for praising Nani, unlike the other way around. Which is kinda why I stupidly offered my first opinion as to why he divides. I have never entered one of these conversations until yesterday, and I don't even feel that strongly about it, I've just fallen among the zealots.
When he's playing he's playing and we all support him, but different opinions are for me one the reason football has such universal appeal because even polar opinions can both be valid. And getting a balanced view of a player is surely the point of a forum like this. If it was all red tinted specs it'd be shit surely?
Nobody is hammering anyone for liking Nani, although those who don't are aparently unable to understand either the game or flair players.
I don't see any white text, so I'm just going to presume you're drunk.
With Nani its always polemic.
Football fans are driven by their tinted glasses, bias, short memory etc. Nani is the perfect example for that. And those who dont rate him would probably have preferred Downing 2 years ago
Nani is class - feck the haters
Judging by some of the comments on here they'd prefer Downing now. He'd be less frustrating, and at least he plays to his potential consistently.
Consistently shit.
Sometimes I wonder what game people are watching or if they've ever played a game of football in their life. He wasn't awful by any means, but also wasn't very good. It was a decent performance. He created 4-5 good chances which would have led to him having a very good game had it not been for missing the penalty and making a couple of misplaced passes and unsuccessful dribbles.
Yep its pretty self explainatory, for Nani to put in the complete performance he has to create oppertunities for himself and other players to help the team score goals. This he did very well. The other side is to move the ball around well and not lose it too much. This he didnt do so well. Its by no means the end of the world if the rest of the team are retaining the ball well, more of a problem when the other side dominate the ball against us. Overall he was good but could have been a lot better with some more care
Contract bullshit happens and people slate the player.
Happened with Rio, Rooney, even Vidic for a while there. Now Nani.
Not every player is going to be like Neville, Giggs, or Scholes. Get used to it.
Happened with Rio, Rooney, even Vidic for a while there. Now Nani.
Not every player is going to be like Neville, Giggs, or Scholes. Get used to it.
Like the guy. He appears humble and grounded but he needs to focus better at the moment. Needs a bit of aa kick up the arse to be his brilliant best again. Hasn't reached the same heights where he was before the carragher assault.
IMO, Nani is a part of the best 6 players we have,
Rooney, RVP, Scholes, Nani, Vidic, Rafael.
I hope we don't sell him, but if we do, we will need to replace him with a proven, class, attacker/winger.
Rooney, RVP, Scholes, Nani, Vidic, Rafael.
I hope we don't sell him, but if we do, we will need to replace him with a proven, class, attacker/winger.
Rafael? Above Valencia? Carrick? Ferdinand? That's just wrong.
i have a question about his pen. I thought that run up had been outlawed and the person got a yellow card? I remember pogba getting booked for running up, stopping and waiting for the gk to move. It weren't that much different. Why wasn't he booked? I only saw it during the game, but it just came to me. Incidently i think that's why he missed. I think he waited for the gk to move, the gk didn't and nani paniced abit and didn't get that much power behind the pen.
Nani is a quality player who just needs the support of the crowd.
Nani is a quality player who just needs the support of the crowd.
not entirely clear on this but I think a brief pause/hesitation, as opposed to actually stopping and waiting for the keeper to commit are two different things and the former is tolerated. Then again, you'd think there'd be a point where the two types of approach meet. Where do you draw the line?
You can't stop/pause at the ball, no problem to do it in the run up.
He had 82 touches: headers, first touch, second touch and arseballs all included in that figure. He made 51 passes and had a 80% pass completion rate. Carrick, Scholes and Kagawa were the only 3 United players to make more passes than him. He also made 5 'key passes' which are passes that lead to goal scoring attempts, the most of any player on both sides. He started the game poorly and after about 20mins had a pass completion rate of 60%, which is Charlie Adam territory! He got significantly better after that which is why he finished on 80%, which isn't bad for a winger.
Reading both this and the Evra thread this week I'm convinced that at least half of the people who watch football are completely clueless and in the main, sheep.
I have no idea why I bother defending players on message boards, minds are made up.
I have no idea why I bother defending players on message boards, minds are made up.
there were players out there FAR... worse then nani 
Carrick was very good. Scholes wasn't. Kagawa was good but didn't get enough of the ball. Would have liked to see him drop deep and help us retain the ball. Just because Scholesy and one or two others are 9/10 consistent don't mean you can't point that out.
I'm thinking, should scholes have featured considering he played on sat. He is 37/38..anyone pointing out nani gave the ball aways just is a joke. Talking about him first half is a joke because he wasn't the reason we weren't that good and he certainly weren't the reason why some players couldn't pass.
We could have gave away 2 pens through our own complacency. As a team, it seems to me that one man gives it away is an excuse for other players to give it away for 5/10 minutes....it's not good.
Carrick was very good. Scholes wasn't. Kagawa was good but didn't get enough of the ball. Would have liked to see him drop deep and help us retain the ball. Just because Scholesy and one or two others are 9/10 consistent don't mean you can't point that out. I'm thinking, should scholes have featured considering he played on sat. He is 37/38..anyone pointing out nani gave the ball aways just is a joke. Talking about him first half is a joke because he wasn't the reason we weren't that good and he certainly weren't the reason why some players couldn't pass.
We could have gave away 2 pens through our own complacency. As a team, it seems to me that one man gives it away is an excuse for other players to give it away for 5/10 minutes....it's not good.
I'm with you. I find this whole thing completely mental.
The melodrama in this thread is quite spectacular.
moses is spot on with his posts.
moses is spot on with his posts.
Under-statement. Amazingly talented footballer.
If a decent offer came in, we should sell him. Although he is capable of the best, he blows hot & cold too often for a United player. But United should replace him with the revenue generated from his sale.
Missed this one actually and despite your crap infraction, I agree with most of it. Although I think the other night his general play as you can see in the gifs on the previous page, was very good, certainly after the first 20 minutes.
He also missed a chunk of Jan/Feb I think and all of March right? He was then rushed back in for City and after having a poor game (as did pretty much everyone), left out for the remainder. So it's not like he's had that much football in 2012.
But in general, I totally agree that he's not been good enough in 2012. The fickle thing came from the fact that I think too many fans let 4 months of average/poor injury affected performances cloud their minds with certain players. It's very early season now and I think Nani has done well in his last 2 games, certainly back on the up. Which is not what a load of posters would have you believe. As I said yesterday, read Hectic's appraisal of his performance, it's pretty much bang on.
Nani's issues started after Carragher's horror tackle IMO. Injuries had been interrupting his form ever since. He seems to be getting back to normal though.
Nah, he was always hot and cold. But usually even when shit produces something good. That's what is frustrating, we know what he can do, so why he can't do it more often?
He does it well enough for Ferguson. Deal with it
Because he's human and not a machine.
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