Who's got a top of the range PC here?
How many 1080p video streams can it deal with at once?
How many 1080p video streams can it deal with at once?
Gaming PlayStation 4 (Console)
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I said Hardware.
From a software level, they are better off being basically PC's with closed architecture, but as you know I've always said that because it's true.
It's a little sad Sony's last hardware could be the most inline and dull release yet.
It's a bit boring, I'll give you that. I'll have nowt to rant and rave about!
It's sad is what it is.
What's even sadder is that this time around it doesn't look like M$ have given me much to have arguments with you about! I can't even make shit up this time they are all so alike.
Sad times indeed
I'm just trying to work out when I'd ever need it to stream more than one?
I play every game at top settings and I haven't had it below 130 FPS yet though and that's all that really matters to me.
Come on, 32 ROPs vs 16. 68GB/s memory bandwidth in XB720 - give me a break!
Yep. When all is said and done, if you have a semi-reasonable PC now, for the cost of a graphics card you'll be ahead of the console curve again.
Well let's not be quick to judge just yet. As I said last generation (another win btw, you'd think I'd be getting tired of this by now
) I don't expect the cross-platform games to be much different, although this time around they'll be slightly better on the Sony side one would imagine.Once again though, it means graphics in total will be behind the curve where they should be. The only real way to do it is to go back to PC first and scale down for consoles, but that isn't happening with thieving Andrew~ type characters still around in force
Yep, I remember this point.
Basically a console that is there to play games has a processor capable of running simultaneous HD streams.
But it isn't capable of making the technically inferior 360 look shit...
Lambs you fluctuate from one extreme to the other. Wii on the one hand and an nVidia Titan on the other.
Well, duh!
If I couldn't argue the case for each and every machine, who'd argue with you?
Blame nVidia and people like you!
You and I both know Sony would use the superior Intel and nVidia combination if they didn't need an entire power grid to power one machine!
You and I both know Sony would use the superior Intel and nVidia combination if they didn't need an entire power grid to power one machine!
Can you explain to me how on earth it went from a rasteriser in the PS2 with silly bandwidth to one in the PS3 with less than half of that bandwidth? FFS, you need fill rate!
Well, without getting technical (you know so more than just you can read this):
The PS2 was a raw polygon cruncher, there's no doubt about that, but come to the spit and polish and it faltered quite badly (I have dancing monkeys to prove that point!)
The PS3/360 being the first HD (well fake HD) level machines were all about the spit and polish first so they could look nice and shiny when scaled up to HD level picture quality.
In summary: It's all about the shaders man! Or at least it was.
feck the shaders, it still needs to be resolved at the end of the pipe. It's like a bloke with bollocks the size of grapefruit and a penis the size of an anchovy!
Well it does this time around for any real improvements, yes. Not so much last gen.
It was the point though, I have a gaming rig that like Rams said, with a small upgrade will be back ahead of these when they are released. I don't want my console or computer to play simultaneous 1080p videos. That's like asking a Michelin starred chef to forget about cooking the Wagyu Fillet and cook 30 Burgers instead.
I'm going to try later, what's the best way if doing this? Multiple VLC windows? Ideally you want a single program playing multiple streams rather than multiple programs playing a single stream for a fair test?
So any ideas of what it's going to look like?
From an actual graphical standpoint should we be expecting photo-realism this generation?
Or roughly how much better will the graphics be than say Uncharted 3.
Or roughly how much better will the graphics be than say Uncharted 3.
I'll take it you have no clue then. Weaste would be far more accurate.
Black.
What, you think he'd use more decimal places?
No you wont! There can be a 10 times plus overhead trying to do the same thing on a PC due to the fact that there is no static hardware that you can target at a low level. In any case, what the hell is your little PC going to do that can improve these games? More AF?
I don't care how you do it, just try it!
General purpose CPUs are not designed to do this!
How can we work out how many video streams it can deal with at once?
Play as many 1080p videos as you can without it falling on its arse. I've shown you that Cell can decode 8 in realtime, now it's down to those i7s and monster GPUs........
I just played a Thor 1080p.mkv in Windows Media Player, MKV Player, VLC and DivX which is all the players I have and none of them are lagging. I don't have any more MKV players to try any more but it seems a bit of a moot task anyway?
EDIT - For what it's worth I have an Intel i7 980X overclocked to 4ghz with 12gb of RAM and GTX 580's running in SLI and I appreciate that it cost a hell of a lot more than what a PS4 will cost to put it together.
EDIT2 - Just noticed I also forgot to close Spotify and Photoshop and had Dues Ex Human Revolution running in the background although I have no idea how much resorces these programs run minimized.
Tried, but can't work out how to play more than one video at a time in the programs I have. Had no issues with the few video program I have all running at once
Can't you run multiple instances of VLC? And it's not moot, it shows the power contained in what Lambs calls "old tech". The point is that the SPEs of the Cell are not irrelevant.
As for the last of it, wow! i7 two GTX 580s with 12GB of RAM doing what a Cell can do with 256MB!
Run another instance of VLC with a different video.
Worked it out now. Seems I don't have any 1080 media handy. Had 10 720 I think it is video running without issues though.
There should be another playstation 4 thread for simpletons like me who don't have a clue what you guys are on about.
You are backwards as usual too, the PS4 is a "little PC".
Without the shit!
What you mean low res, even lower AA levels, shit online, feck all mods and excessive costs due to licensing?
Yeah, consoles all the way!