Third top scorer in the Prem and only 4 off RVP
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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Stunning strike to win the game, he's doing what the big players do, he's winning matches for his team even when he's having an average all round performance.
Let me guess. He scored 2 goals so we're again arguing:
To which the answers are fairly simple.
- How good he is.
- How much he'd cost.
- Likelyhood of him leaving.
To which the answers are fairly simple.
- Very.
- Loads.
- Not much.
He'll be the new trophy of Perez in the RM Presidential Elections.
Is he going to win the player of the year award over rvp? 
If they had a decent striker his assist rate would probably triple aswell, he makes the chances it's just that nobody else can fooking score.
Hope it won't be some sort of money+modric deal for Real
Seeing that Lennon has quite a few assists, that seems like bullshit too me. If Bale wasn't so intent on shooting the whole frickin time, maybe he would assist more - but as a result, he would probably score less.
He averages 4.9 shots a game, more than anyone else in the league bar Suarez. It's not much of a surprise his scoring stats have increased when he takes on a shot most of the time, and being played through the middle.
To be fair last night was pretty emblematic of Bale's last 3 months. But for incompetent finishing he should have gotten 2 or 3 assists as well as his couple of goals.
How's them lemons naysayers?
That's funny because, until a couple of weeks ago, Van Persie for example had scored a higher % of your goals than Bale had for us and yet (rightly) very few would claim that you are a one man team.
Bale didn't even start scoring until a couple of months ago this season and we've been 4th-6th all season. But as is the case with pretty much all squads, as some players have their influence decrease, others increase.
People as always insist on going into hyperbole after everything. He is still nowhere near Ronaldo or Messi. And while the last couple of months we have been heavily reliant on Bale, this has been particularly obvious over the past few months and is no different from most other teams.
As usual, Bale put in a few excellent crosses last night but our striker was nowhere to be seen. Bale and Lennon have different ways of getting the ball into the box.
Lennon also has the option of passing the ball to your best player and goalscorer.
My favourite is when Bale passes it to himself, dribbles it round a couple of players and then slots it into the top corner.
If you are playing Defoe against Samba, maybe crosses aren't ideal, whereas Lennon's mazing runs are more suited to the striker's style. It's a somewhat lame excuse. What is the point of crossing if there are no players in the box? You either assist or you don't - Downing is one of the finest players in the league then, if you go by creating chances, and surely, Suarez is scoring his fair share this season.
Bale is a very talented player, just don't make too many excuses on his behalf. He needs to work on his assists.
Except he wasn't crossing into Defoe playing Samba but Adebayor playing against Collins and O'Brien.
Lennon' assists have also dried up recently because our 2 strikers have decided to contribute 6 goals between them over the past 3 months.
Well that was a ruddy screamer to win the game, he's adding 5mil to his value with pretty much every game, id say Levy is wanking himself silly in the back of Arry's old Astra.
Whatever these stats say, there is not doubt he has turned into a world class player this season.
Not sure how long he can keep up but surely he is doing very well.
But I'm sure you got my point. Collins is excellent in the air btw! He only has one, a single numero uno, assist this year, which is abysmal. He doesn't figure in the top assist rankings in the latest years either. It is something he has to work on!
Bale creates a high number of goals scoring chances for Spurs. I think that most of those come from crosses which are generally harder to finish but the fact that Spur's strikers have been so poor this season doesn't help him, or his assist count.
He's got far more responsibility than Lennon who can pretty much stay wide and look to get chalk on his boots before slinging in a cross or trying to beat his man and get the ball in.
Bale is being asked to play all over - central and wide positions to get into the game. he was excellent doing that klast night, started as many attacks with a decent pass as he he did pick the ball up and shoot.
Indeed. The haters seem to have gone quiet.
I think he'll stay at Spurs. Don't think he'll be sold anywhere in England and although he's said he's like to go abroad, I can't see him going to the French league. That leaves Real and Barca where a lot depends on Mourinho and Ronaldo's situation. Levy will probably not get his asking price and Bale will stay.
He's a very good player and he seems to be coming on really well. I think our commentators are so desperate for a superstar that they hype him up out of all proportion.
I dont think you can rule out him staying at Spurs - but they have a new ground to pay for and Spurs could do a lot on the pitch with the money they could get. They could become a better side with £50 million or so to spend.
For me whether he goes to Spain depends on one thing - if they want to turn him into a left back, he might not be too keen. Although, They're big clubs and will of course be attractive.
Surely if he's available United will be in for him - along with City and Chelsea I suspect. Apparently often back in Wales so Manchester might be convenient?
No club would buy him and try to turn him into a left back. It would take an astonishing amount of idiocy to attempt that.
He should stay at Spurs.
Allows for a more competitive league, which can only benefit the EPL.
Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world.
Allows for a more competitive league, which can only benefit the EPL.
Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world.
He's really ideally suited to either our style or Madrid's, isn't he? Width, fast paced counter attacks, can drift inside. Maybe even City, as he'll provide some width they often lack.
Not so much Barca or Chelsea, IMO. Bu he's that good that all the money bags will come out to bid.
Not so much Barca or Chelsea, IMO. Bu he's that good that all the money bags will come out to bid.
Thats hogwash he puts in some fecking cracking crosses, its aint his fault the likes of Adebayor are wank at converting them.
He has become a superb player, really dangerous.
I'd love to see opinion on here if he was United player.
If the somewhat silly rumours of Ronaldo coming back to Old Trafford turn out to be true, Real's sale of Ronaldo would probably be partly to fund a move for Bale as a replacement. Bale would fetch £40-50m at the moment (on current form definitely closer to the top end of that). Ronaldo would still sell for more if we were at all able to buy him (£55m+) and of course we'd have to sell a top player like Nani to have any chance at funding the move.
I'd be over the moon if we somehow signed Bale. I don't think this would look at all bad next season:
Exactly the same squad bar:
Nani Sold
Scholes Retired
Bale/Ronaldo Signed
Lampard Signed on a Free
Fabio Returns
... We can dream.
I'd be over the moon if we somehow signed Bale. I don't think this would look at all bad next season:
Exactly the same squad bar:
Nani Sold
Scholes Retired
Bale/Ronaldo Signed
Lampard Signed on a Free
Fabio Returns
... We can dream.
Ronaldo averages more shots than most as well, in fact, since he started becoming world class around 22 years old, the argument (his shots per game stat) has been used to play down his success many times by haters...
He is not in the same class, but he is doing extremely well now.
He has ONE assist this year - that is abysmal no matter how you look at it. Defoe was on fire earlier this season, yet Bale still only has one assist. The argument that the strikers cannot convert them into goals only tell half the story - the crosses may be slightly over hit, slightly under-hit, behind the player and so forth. If you use that argument, surely you must think the world of Downing as well?
As I've said before, Bale is a proper talent and I would like him at United, but he needs to work on his assists - it's not good enough, and he shoots too often!
I'm not playing him down, but it's obviously helping him produce more now that he has a free role in the team, and is the focal point of the Spurs attack. Just look at their last month of games, and Bale has scored pretty much all of their goals.
Ronaldo averages more shots because he is one of the most selfish players in the world, and literally shoots from everywhere. Nobody cares though because he produces more often than not.
People are saying he Bale doesn't have assists to match because the rest of the attack isn't good enough, but maybe it's just because he's been playing through the middle more often than not lately, and instead of creating chances for others, he's finding space for himself to shoot.
Are you just here to complain that everyone isn't swallowing his balls?
If you look at the United forum you'll see plenty of criticisms for pretty much every player we have and that includes Rooney. And we're 15 clear
Carrick is 32 in the summer. We need cover for him badly.
One thing Spurs have done well this season is that they are getting him into more advanced positions to let loose that left peg of his.
I still don't think he's in the league of Ronaldo and Giggs though. If he wins the league player of the year, I think I'll be pretty disappointed.
I still don't think he's in the league of Ronaldo and Giggs though. If he wins the league player of the year, I think I'll be pretty disappointed.