Manchester City vs. Manchester United

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Clueless management, completely outclassed by an average team. Loosing to City and Liverpool this early on is completely unacceptable.

Change things now or we are going to get humiliated.
 
acnumber9 said:
Big difference between thinking a player should be in the team and actually wanting him to play badly. You've got you want and now you can tell us how right you are. Happy?
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Why am I happy for being 2-0 down to City you idiot?

I wanted Young to play badly against Palace so he didn't line up for us ever again. Sadly he made the team today. He's fecking useless.
 
Young, Fellani, Carrick, Valencia is a midtable midfield. It's that simple really.
 
Many blaming Young, but our problem is as a unit. We have largely been a pedestrian, out-dated and one-paced team for years. Our players have no movement off the ball, we cannot operate between the lines, we play like robots.

I don't know what the answer is, but I get the impression we could use some continental input in our coaching department. British managers have their merit, but generally playing fluid attacking football is not amongst them. This whole 'United way' bollocks about having two wingers on the touchline in rubbish.
 
I think at least one sub at Half Time is in order. A whole lot of nothingness from us all over the pitch. We've been caught napping and we've just let them dictate the game. Our attitude is so poor at the moment and it's playing right into their hands. Midfield can't get a grip on this game. Let's not even talk about our defending..

Nani for Young is worth a shot.
 
17 Van Der Gouw said:
I can't bare to be here for the weekly matchday meltdown, so I'm going to feck off for a bit and predict this:

- We'll win in the end.
- We'll go behind, maybe 2-0 behind at one point
- There will be lots of posts on how shit Young is
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Two out of three. Hopefully the first point will come true too.
 
Danny1982 said:
Turns out if you don't move, or pass, or defend, ..., you lose.
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Exactly.

We've been so poor am not even angry. City deserved the 2 goal lead.

Atleast change things now at HT rather than wait for another 15-20mins. Get the likes of Nani and Kagawa in. They're playing at an entirely different level.
 
Valencia, welbeck and young. We all new would be shit and guess what. Don't worry though they work hard.
 
Jacob said:
"Never count United out"
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5 league games in and looking at our second defeat makes you wonder. This is a very pedestrian United team. Without Van Persie, Rooney is wasting his energy running back to get the ball. Young is playing hit and hope with his crosses, and Valencia is hampered by having to double up as right back to cover for Smalling. Fellaini is nowhere near Toure half the time and he looks a bit overawed. Carrick drifts in and out of the game too.
 
We definitely need more technical players on there now. It's a no brainer to bring on Nani/Kagawa, if not both. Please Moyes...
 
Such a surprise. We all predicted this before the game when we saw the lineup. No creativity at all in the team, smalling is a shite right back, young is just shite at everything related to football. How he is playing in a manchester derby is shocking really. No better then a mid table premier league team level he is.
We have no hope in this game unless we take him off for nani or kagawa. In fact, take off smalling as well, move Valencia to right back and put nani on the right with kagawa on the left. Put on Hernandez for welbeck too because he looks lost yet again as a striker.
 
Nani should have started for one of Valencia or Young, because neither are attacking enough or able to produce something when we aren't loading up the penalty area for crosses. He's worth the gamble whether he's played recently or not.
 
Valencia looking dog turd as per the first City goal was embarrassing from his point of view.
 
All 3 United said:
Clueless management, completely outclassed by an average team. Loosing to City and Liverpool this early on is completely unacceptable.

Change things now or we are going to get humiliated.
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Not really. It happens every year
 
I didn't even know Young, Valencia and Welbeck were playing before 30 minutes had passed. It's like we have no penetrating power(hurr hurr) whatsoever! Kagawa and Nani needs to come on.

We also look completely toothless. City aren't really pressing us that high, it's just that we're fecking terrified of them. We fall back like nervous little boys everytime they have the ball, and when we win it back, we have no idea what to do with it. Whenever we pass the ball around, there's always a ton of City players trying to close us down. We need to be as aggressive as them!
 
shaggy said:
Why am I happy for being 2-0 down to City you idiot?

I wanted Young to play badly against Palace so he didn't line up for us ever again. Sadly he made the team today. He's fecking useless.
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He's playing badly like you've hoped before and now you can say you're right. You must be cock a hoop.

You're like the Ashley Young of Redcafe then.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Fergie bought him, so don't blame Moyes for Young. What did Fergie think he was doing?
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It was a terrible signing. But moyes doesn't have to play him.

Just like he doesn't have to set us up in the same boring way fergie did towards the end.
 
Sixpence said:
They just have better players than us, it's really as simple as that. It's only natural with the money they have. They have several world class players who consistently make the difference and we have one, who isn't even playing.
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Is it?

Put Nani, Hernandez and Kagawa on for Young, Welbeck and Valencia and I'd argue otherwise.
 
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