So after some "experts" on the caf have labelled him a bust after one bad game whats the future for the lad?
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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People slated Evra after his first game away to City, look how he turned out.
You're judging Fellaini on the back of one game, which is probably one of the ten most difficult fixtures any football team can have in the world.
Give him time.
You're judging Fellaini on the back of one game, which is probably one of the ten most difficult fixtures any football team can have in the world.
Give him time.
Didn't think he was as bad as some seem to think in this thread.
However, he did seem a bit lazy in midfield not tracking runners when we weren't in possession. I hope, given time, he can fix this, specifically because he mentioned that he wants to play in defensive midfield when he signed for us.
I was pleasantly surprised by his passing off both feet, and that left footed curler... didn't know he had it in him
However, he did seem a bit lazy in midfield not tracking runners when we weren't in possession. I hope, given time, he can fix this, specifically because he mentioned that he wants to play in defensive midfield when he signed for us.
I was pleasantly surprised by his passing off both feet, and that left footed curler... didn't know he had it in him
No we aren't.
Yeah you are, and the fact he isn't FabregasThiagoHerrera. Stop being cnuts and give a lad a fecking chance
I don't even really care about his actual performance, the whole team was bad and he didn't have much of a chance with Young and Valencia in the form they were in. Easily the most disappointing thing for me was that when chasing the game Moyes solution was to put him up behind Rooney when we had Chicharito and Kagawa on the bench. That's the most worrying thing to me.
Behave yourself. If he was a quality player and he'd played shite nobody would be on his back. The fact is a lot of people were against this signing and it's natural to point out his flaws. The same way Ferguson was forgiven for his mistakes because we knew he got it right 99.9% of the time. His performance yesterday wasn't exactly unexpected and Moyes' use of him was particularly worrying. I hope it will not continue.
been here two weeks played three games and already he is useless...shower of bastards
Wow, some of you are fecking unreal..... 2 games....
I'm not even saying he's the new Roy Keane but fecking hell, at least let him figure out the quickest route to the training ground before he's written off.
I'm not even saying he's the new Roy Keane but fecking hell, at least let him figure out the quickest route to the training ground before he's written off.
As often, somewere in between is probably fair... It's not unreasonable to be critical/expect more from him yesterday, as he was very poor... but it's way, way too early to be writing him off altogether - even if you believed he wouldn't be good enough before he signed, you've still not been proven right or wrong just yet.
It also makes him an easy target for all the armchair, wannabe, Gary Nevilles. If history has told us feck all its that 99.9% of supporters know feck all.
I assume those who were against signing him, naturally, pointed out his flaws at the time... so what now, do we get to listen to the same points over and over and over again until he leaves? How about people get over the fact that he's not Fabregas and give him a chance? Would that be too much to ask?
I don't care how much FM you lot play or if he ends up being the next Djemba Djemba. You can't accurately judge a player after 2 and a half games.
Most of our team were crap yesterday. Fellaini seems to be getting more critisism than most. I think that the lack of anything in midfield was more to do with Moyes' tactics or lack of.
Rooney went through spells of poor play and I still didn't give him too much stick because I know what he's done pretty consistently over 10 years. I'm not even sure if that's a serious post though.
I'd be less annoyed if he actually looked like he gave a feck yesterday.
I'd be less annoyed if he actually looked like he gave a feck yesterday.
No we're not. Where are people getting this from? We do watch other football besides United you know.
To be fair, I'm not judging him on the back of yesterday's game. I've never liked him at all and always thought he'd be nowt more then a squad player if he signed here..
Certainly never expected him to be a starter and bought for nearly £28 million
So does everyone else, he was good at Everton.
Yes he was good for Everton, a midtable team as a target man playing off the striker. He was bought to be a defensive midfielder for Manchester United and he's not good enough to play that role for us. Not his fault, he should never have been bought in the first place.
We've all had our reservations about different players over the years. Usually we give them a chance, though.
The point is we have had plenty of 'quality players' slated after bad games when it suits.
Fellaini is an easy target.
Also not sure how you judge whether someone 'looks like' they give a shit, I'd say Berbatov drove you wild.
Hilarious you come out saying how many games you watch when its blatant you haven't a clue what you are on about.He primarily played as a central midfielder for Everton, judging him solely on his 12/13 form shows me that you haven't watched him as much as you think you have. He's constantly been amongst the highest ballwinners in the league, even when pushed up he maintained those stats.
The role he will play for us next to Carrick should be absolutely perfect for him. Yesterday he was way off his best, but then so was virtually every player in the team.
Nobody is judging Fellaini on the back of one game. He's not an unknown quantity. We've been watching him play in the Premier League for 5 years.
He primarily played as a central midfielder for Everton, judging him solely on his 12/13 form shows me that you haven't watched him as much as you think you have. He's constantly been amongst the highest ballwinners in the league, even when pushed up he maintained those stats.
The role he will play for us next to Carrick should be absolutely perfect for him. Yesterday he was way off his best, but then so was virtually every player in the team.
If thats what you think thats fine, won't see me resorting to petty insults. Time will tell who is right but I'm certain he is not good enough to play centre midfield for Manchester United. The problem with most people here is that they make themselves believe he is good enough, he's not imo.
Exactly, but don't let the muppets see this post. We've only seen him play 2 games sure.
I thought he was a lot more involved and effective when he went up front and played ahead of carrick and cleverly. held up the ball, brought others into play.
You said he played as a target man off the striker at Everton when the majority of time he didn't do that. Yet you're claiming to have seen him lots, and using this to criticise him.
Not trying to throw out petty insults I just think its funny.
He primarily played as a central midfielder for Everton, judging him solely on his 12/13 form shows me that you haven't watched him as much as you think you have. He's constantly been amongst the highest ballwinners in the league, even when pushed up he maintained those stats.
The role he will play for us next to Carrick should be absolutely perfect for him. Yesterday he was way off his best, but then so was virtually every player in the team.
I remember you now, you're the geezer who thought Diego Milito wasn't value for money. And I don't have a clue.
Because that's his best position. Up top playing off the striker
I thought £22million for a 30 year old Milito was overpriced, so did most people.
Don't get me started on Berba.
I have actually said before that Fellaini will probably prove to have a more than decent career here. He may even prove to be very useful and it was imperative we got somebody in. The price tag is not his fault. He'll be helped by not having us play like such a bunch of pricks again for a while and it really was the perfect storm yesterday for an absolute drubbing. As far as his individual quality goes, I hope people are prepared to be patient with him because I can't see where the vast improvement is coming from. But we'll see
I have actually said before that Fellaini will probably prove to have a more than decent career here. He may even prove to be very useful and it was imperative we got somebody in. The price tag is not his fault. He'll be helped by not having us play like such a bunch of pricks again for a while and it really was the perfect storm yesterday for an absolute drubbing. As far as his individual quality goes, I hope people are prepared to be patient with him because I can't see where the vast improvement is coming from. But we'll see
He was also strongly against us signing Van Persie last season. Less said about that the better.
Thankfully, I missed the game! I was out at a family party and when I saw the score, I was quite glad to be missing it. I did see the goals though, and I was a bit frustrated by Fellaini's failure to track Aguero? into the box for his goal. I saw him do something similar for Everton a few weeks back, and I assumed it was because he'd lost interest in playing for them. Perhaps his spells as a more attacking player have cost him a bit of defensive sharpness?
We've seen enough of him at Everton to know what kind of player he is.
That's crap. He didn't get it right 99.9% of the time at all. He won lots of titles, but his list of errors have increased dramatically in the past few years, and we have underachieved massively in the CL considering how many goes at it we had. You in particular have never been a fan of Fellaini's, and that's fair enough. But you almost can't wait now to come in and start claiming this one match - where every player was utter shite, collectively and individually - is somehow irrefutable proof that he alone is not good enough.
Let me tell you something, there are many players in this squad who are not good enough in the big games. City murdered us yesterday, but why? Bottom line is they have more top quality players than we do, and when it comes to the derby those players produce their best form and the rest of their team responds to that. In contrast, our top players failed to produce, yet again. Vidic, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney were nowhere near the level of the likes of Toure, Aguero and Kompany, and it's hardly the first time.
How any reasonable minded person can highlight Fellaini as not being good enough after one poor performance in only his second start, while somehow failing to address why our established and experienced top players failed to produce yet again in a big game, is beyond me. I would put it to you that in big crunch games where top opponents play their best, there have been many occasions where our team or it's big players have simply not produced.
Only one man is to blame for us having so many players who simply do not match up to genuine world class talent and that is SAF. He has repeatedly refused to make any signings of real top quality for years, preferring instead to whinge about lack of value. The one genuine world class player we have signed is RVP, and we all saw the huge difference that extra quality made to our results. Moyes has inherited a great job, but not a great team. For his first task he had to sign a whole midfield just to make us competitive against other top teams. So let's give him time, he will certainly need it. He needs to completely revamp our side into a team that actually plays well in big games. Tbh we rarely play really well and are generally uninspiring in most games, but because we tend to get the win regardless nobody bothers too much.
That is the key to me why we lose so many big games against top teams who play well against us. We can get away with playing poorly and winning against teams who are inferior to us, but you have to play well to beat top teams in top form, which is why we rarely win the big crunch matches at the business end of the season. That mindset has come from Fergie, not Moyes, so let's give him time to see if he can change that mentality.
He's about as useful as Theon Greyjoy basically.
Yet the more relevant point would be have you seen enough of him at everton to know what kind of player he can become? Probably not I would suggest.
Did he just appear on the face of the planet two games ago? Or, you know, have some of those who don't rate him watched him play before?
Same thing happened when we signed Carrick. Fletcher used to get a lot of abuse as well and remained underrated even when his form improved so much, that mourinho said how important was he to United's game. And lately even Tom cleverley came under a lot of stick from the same self-proclaimed experts.
Anyway, we re seeing the resurrection of the "Sack Fergie, Sell Giggs" brigade - clueless lot with a lot of time on their hands
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