I would say that teams in La Liga are more compact and organised than teams in the Premier League. You get more space in the Premier League - Fabregas and Cazorla have said this. Defending in La Liga is poor, but looking at national teams (England and Spain) reflects well on the state of the leagues. England concede a lot of space between the lines and look vulnerable defensively because of this, while Spain are better organised.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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I would say that teams in La Liga are more compact and organised than teams in the Premier League. You get more space in the Premier League - Fabregas and Cazorla have said this. Defending in La Liga is poor, but looking at national teams (England and Spain) reflects well on the state of the leagues. England concede a lot of space between the lines and look vulnerable defensively because of this, while Spain are better organised.
His 3rd goal was fantastic. He picked the ball up very early to start that move.
He is one of the world best, his fee is ridiculous but if you utd had that kind of cash I wouldn't have said no
He is one of the world best, his fee is ridiculous but if you utd had that kind of cash I wouldn't have said no
8 goals and 6 assists in 7 games apparently. Wow.
I don't get what's up with the lesser teams in Spain though. They don't get in the faces of he likes of madrid especially away from home. Such a timid display by this opponent. There's a lack of intensity.
Oh yeah Messi must be rolling in his grave. All hail to king Bale. Da Gretist Futbarer eva.
The only thing that stat proves is how irrelevant something like a 'perfect hat-trick' is. A hat-trick is a hat-trick, no matter its composition (I suppose you could argue that one made up of penalties might not be as impressive.) It's a bit like saying: "it took Javier Hernandez 13 games (or whatever the number) to score a header with the back of his head. Ruud Van Nistlerooy never scored a header with the back of his head." or how about: "it took Javier Hernandez ONE game to score a goal by kicking the ball off his own face and into the net. Andriy Shevchenko never kicked the ball of his own and into the net."
Yep. If you have the cash, you buy players. If madrid can afford it, there's nothing wrong in it.
It just gets better better for Bale and bitter and bitter for some in this thread,Chuffed for him.
Last season he was scoring nearly as many goals as RvP despite playing in a worse team and not as a striker. Now he is showing why Madrid wanted precisely him and not some other players. He is scoring freely not because La Liga is shit or something. Otherwise, Benzema would have been quite productive as well. He is scoring because he's one of the best attacking players out there.
The counter-attacks are what separates the leagues. The entire EPL has had 8 counter-attack goals this season whereas La Liga has had 36. Only 6 teams has scored a counter(Not United, City or Tottenham) and in La Liga 18 teams has. Levante has scored as many goals as the best counter-attacking team in Arsenal in EPL.
That is why we get the Hockey-scores there, once a team goes up with 1-0 they aren't looking to substitute another defender on and park the bus. They continue their regular play with the added counter-factor which means a 6-0 is just logical when Real Madrid scores 1-0 in the 10th minute.
This fact also brings up the value of the Spanish league and the Spanish super-stars foremost. It allows Cristiano Ronaldo to score 60 goals in a season which increases his value with hundreds of percent compared to if he had scored 30 every season since joining RM. All the offensive players in La Liga will have amazing stats that they can't duplicate in any other league but their value remains heavily inflated.
So it has benefits not just in terms of killing games, but financially it is always way better to have a team score 8 and concede 7 than it is to score 1-0 and win parking the bus.
This is without bringing up the "entertainment value" point which would of course also increase the growth of the teams financials. For references look at Forlan, Rossi, Aguero, the latter has developed for three more years and is playing with the best players in the world and still scores less.
That is why we get the Hockey-scores there, once a team goes up with 1-0 they aren't looking to substitute another defender on and park the bus. They continue their regular play with the added counter-factor which means a 6-0 is just logical when Real Madrid scores 1-0 in the 10th minute.
This fact also brings up the value of the Spanish league and the Spanish super-stars foremost. It allows Cristiano Ronaldo to score 60 goals in a season which increases his value with hundreds of percent compared to if he had scored 30 every season since joining RM. All the offensive players in La Liga will have amazing stats that they can't duplicate in any other league but their value remains heavily inflated.
So it has benefits not just in terms of killing games, but financially it is always way better to have a team score 8 and concede 7 than it is to score 1-0 and win parking the bus.
This is without bringing up the "entertainment value" point which would of course also increase the growth of the teams financials. For references look at Forlan, Rossi, Aguero, the latter has developed for three more years and is playing with the best players in the world and still scores less.
You lot reek of bitterness. They're not saying what it implies. It's just a nice little stat.
I've always played down bale a little, because people overrate him but I'm genuinely surprised at how well he's started at madrid. His stats are fabulous. Also, in the future he and Ronaldo could help free each other up.
Benzema has 6 in the last 6 I think. His problem is consistency. He'd score shitloads too if he fulfilled his potential.
A nice little stat? For what? A hat-trick is a hat-trick. Period. End of. This is meaningless and stupid. Including Messi as never 'scoring a perfect hat-trick' is indicative of how rubbish and shit the stat really is. No one cares.Well done on scoring three Bale. He's done well so far for Real. The stat itself is a bitter shot at Messi and Ronaldo.
Also, perfect? Yeah because a hat-trick couldn't be superior without scoring with your right left and head. Perfect is a shit description of a shit stat.
Sorry the post is quite harsh but garbage like this agitates me.
That explanation is one-sided as Messi's and Ronaldo's stats in the CL nicely show. They are virtually as productive in the CL as in La Liga. And Ronaldo would be scoring much more than 30 goals in England. He is obviously better than the best forwards in the Prem. Currently, Aguero is on the way to 45 goals, ffs even Ramsey is on the way to 30 + goals. Already before moving to Spain Ronaldo had a season with 42 goals. Now he is an even better goalscorer.
You're getting unduly wind up because you think it's trying to paint bale as some sort of footballing superman. It's not. It's saying he's scored with his left foot, right foot and header. It's a word used to display a "complete" hat trick. It's not implying someone who beats 10 players each for 3 goals hasn't scored a better hat trick. You're just overreacting to a simple little stat.
I didn't mean that Benzema is not talented enough to be productive. For whatever reason he hasn't been very productive since his arrival at Madrid. I agree though that he's got the potential to become a great player.
All you needed to say was 'I used to toe punt the ball'
I thought it could have taken him a little while to settle in in Spain but fair play to him. He looks to have made the transition pretty seamlessly.
You do have to wonder about the general standard of the Spanish league though - not that Bale needs to worry about that.
You do have to wonder about the general standard of the Spanish league though - not that Bale needs to worry about that.
Standard of la liga is very high. There just happens to be a huge gulf between top 3 and the rest.
Bottom half of the table is stronger than the PL
Bottom half of the table is stronger than the PL
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Fair, if maybe debatable, point it's sort of what I mean.
Bit of a moot point really, you can only play the team ahead of you.
I'm just bitter he didn't sign for Utd.
Better than Ronaldo?
Won't be surprised if he scores between 30-40 goals this season.
i would be surprised if he scores less than 30 goals...
Reading back the first few pages of this thread makes you realise how quickly he improved. I remember him as a floppy haired jynx playing at left back, talked about as a makeweight in a deal for Stewart Downing. Then he tears Maicon a new ringpiece, and was praised by everybody. Despite this he remains more or less at the same level until last season. It was his solo goal against Norwich where everyone started taking real notice, iirc. Then he just went from strength to strength. Had no idea looking at him 2 years ago he would go on to be a potential 30-40 goal a season player for Madrid.
La Liga is shit. There's obviously world class players in it, but as a league it's barely even a contest.
Not usually but at least this year there's 3 teams who could win it in my opinion, so it is by definition becoming more competitive, not much mind.
Like only getting 10 years in prison instead of 15.
Perfect hat-tricks are over-rated. Three in off the arse are just as good.
What the feck's a perfect hat-trick?
u have to score one with ur dick, one with ur arse and one with the face.
no idea bro... some stupid shit the media invented for sure.
Well that's a load of shit isn't it? Would three over head kicks like Rooney's vs City not be even more perfect? Or three left footed volleys like van Persie's vs Villa last season.
In any case, England is still waiting for a hattrick hero in the next world cup. We haven't had one since Linekar in 1986...
Not if Bale is left-footed and can't head a ball to save his life. Then it can be considered a perfect hattrick.
Was Linekar the other one?
He was! Cheeky bastard
He's done well after his recovery, and with Ronaldo out it's a good opportunity to show he won't always be playing second fiddle to him. I said he would do well to reach 15 (I honestly thought he would struggle adapting) but he's scoring a good amount now. I reckon he will hit around 20, which may seem unbelievable to some on here, but is what I expect him to get.