Sunderland vs. Manchester United

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Gone way past being appalled by this and now I'm just straight up laughing.
 
Cleverley is no better than the likes of Tunnicliffe, Norwood and other lads that have come through our academy.
As much as I want to disagree with this, I just can't. He's fecking pants.
 
It's our fault as dominated possession for the whole half and have not committed enough people in attack. Never more than two people in the box, the striker and one of the wingers.
 
Cleverley and Carrick are shockingly bad btw, wretched and they need the biggest kick up the arse ever or some actual competition right now.
 
This is shaping up like Swansea tie, we are dominating the game and look reasonably comfortable, before possibly going down to a late late goal :(
In fairness we are far from dominating the game, we are playing it sideways and back ways. We have done very little in the final third, it's become the norm unfortunately.
When we have to rely on Cleverly you know the teams in a bad place.
 
It's got to the stage that I feel losing is no harm as it'll hopefully mean Moyes stops playing some of these ridiculously average football players.
 
Just our luck. Playing decently but no cutting edge and now it costs us. It's painful to watch how slow and static we are. Before (under sir Alex) we at least had 10-15 minutes a game where we looked really good but now we look so void of confidence that we just rely on set pieces basically.
 
Sunderland never deserved that goal. DDG hardly touched the ball all half.
 
Seem like we can lose to just about any team now. This is not normal and some radical changes need to be done (transfers) or we're fecked. Who the hell are we trying to fool anyway? Just get some quality in or accept having to look like idiots every other game. Any other big club would have made big changes right away. I mean, how long did it take Wenger to make changes after that defeat against us???
 
Did anyone else even react that much when we conceded? I was just like, "yep, standard". Not even angry or going mad at the TV or anything. Just an acceptance now that this is what we are.
 
Cleverley is no better than the likes of Tunnicliffe, Norwood and other lads that have come through our academy.

He did make advances whilst on loan on at Wigan and for a short time afterward although has stagnated if not gone backwards since. By far too much of a peripheral figure, doesn't seem up to great responsibility out on the pitch.
 
I'd play a fluid midfield 3 of Carrick, Kagawa and Januzaj and stick Zaha on the left

Cleverley is pish tonight and Giggs hasn't been much better
 
It's so sad that it's actually quite amusing now, I actually laughed at that goal. :(
 
A draw would have been fair. fecking shit goal to concede. Our midfield is a joke though. Carrick is in the worst shape I can remember and Clev can neither pass nor control a ball.
 
Anyone else feel Moyes is cursed just now?

They add one minute and they score 1;30 into added time with their first effort on goal


Its a bit Rawkish to blame luck. Remember the season they would have won the treble but for hitting the post around 2000 times.
 
Poor in attack, poor in defence, yet again. You can see our confidence looks shot and everything is going against us.

It's soul destroying watching us play at the moment. Have we got a reaction in us for the second half? Moyes better summon a hairdryer of a team talk and get these players believing again. Losing another game with so little is unacceptable. We need to see some of the spirit we're famed for.
 
What a ridiculous season. Carrick's bad form is one of the biggest disappointments of this season.


Carrick's bad form has made our midfield look inferior to that of most clubs we've played this season. It really is embarrassing for a club like United.
 
This can't be the same team I watched last season no way, Cleverley and Carrick actually played well together against good teams for at least 45 mins, fecking useless pairing now.
 
I'd go and get some relief by smashing someone online on FIFA 14, but the sad fact is that it often looks the same there :(
 
Can't wait for the Moyes apologists to rally the troops after we crashed out of another cup competition.
 
Poor in attack, poor in defence, yet again. You can see our confidence looks shot and everything going against us.

It's soul destroying watching us play at the moment. Have we got a reaction in us for the second half? Moyes better summon a hairdryer of a team talk and get these players believing again. Losing another game with so little is unacceptable. We need to see some of the spirit we're famed for.


This game is played over 2 legs. 1-0 isn't a disaster. We will pull that back at Old Trafford.
 
He did make advances whilst on loan on at Wigan and for a short time afterward although has stagnated if not gone backwards since. By far too much of a peripheral figure, doesn't seem up to great responsibility out on the pitch.


I bet Martinez could make him tick :smirk:
 
Terrible start. Then we picked it up and played very well for the last 30 minutes, should have got that goal. Silly goal to concede.

Confident we can still win this. Get Kagawa on for Cleverley (he's understandably knackered). Hernandez to come on for Valencia (shite again against a very average Left back, get Januzaj running at him)
 
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