Pochetino also makes my list.
Who would you have as our new manager
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So why did he renew his contract at Dortmund then?
That's true but look at the top clubs.
Bayern - Pep
Real - fickle fecks (could go for him)
Barca- Highly unlikely with their system of choosing managers
Chelsea- Mourinho
City- another one that could go for him
Arsenal- Wenger
I just cant see us competing with anyone other than Real or City.
Gordon Strachan, Ali McCoist and if neither of them were available, Paul Sturrock.
I think we need somebody whos totally proven. We need somebody who has won major trophies and been in charge of a really big club.
Ole is a proven winner as a player and manager. Cardiff will be a platform to cement that even further.
Sorry but as great a job as he did with Molde, he needs to show it at a bigger stage. And his record as a player counts for very little in my book.
Everything is relative. Who else did you think at the Club is in a better position than Fergie in recommending who's to succeed him. Fergie is a magician but he's not a fortune teller. Moyes has let Fergie down, he has let the fans down, and he has let his players down... Whoever succeed him has a big shoe to fill and a transition period is what we have right now. What we didn't expect is, being 2nd and 3rd would be very real but 7th or 8th? We are not Everton! So the sooner we see the back of Moyes the better. The question is who to replace him and who will be in charge of the decision of replacing him.
Ole doesn't have enough experience, let's see how he does for 2-3 years. After a another pre-season I fully expect Moyes (who has been underwhelming) to have this team in the top 4, I don't know if he has it in him to have us playing good football and competing for top honours. The league has changed no one team will dominate any more Moyes or no Moyes that is the reality.
Klopp would be the standout I lik ethe way his teams play, fast counterattacking football not obsessed with possession. But off the pitch he is a great character too. What he could do with the likes of Rooney,Van Persie, Kagawa, Mata and Januzaj
Klopp would be the standout I lik ethe way his teams play, fast counterattacking football not obsessed with possession. But off the pitch he is a great character too. What he could do with the likes of Rooney,Van Persie, Kagawa, Mata and Januzaj
I'm not saying he's actively looking to leave, if nobody came in for him he will probably be happy to stay but I don't think the lure of Dortmund is what it was 18 months ago when he'd just won the league and had one of the most exciting young squads in Europe.
I remember people saying 'why would he want to leave Dortmund, they are great' but seeing his best players leave every year must be grating, especially when 2 of them joined their closest rivals.
You could probably throw PSG in there as well. Either way wouldn't competing with the likes of Real and City be more than enough? Klopp might say to himself ''do you know what but feck it, I've my time done now working on a low enough budget and trying to bring on youth etc, I think I'll have a crack at this open chq. book thing''. That's why I was saying we'd want to be in better nick than what we're currently in.
If Moyes hits the road, who ever comes in will have a fair job on their hands to try and get us back into the swing of things again, I reckon.
PSG? Naah, not with the impression I have of Klopp. If he wanted to do that, he could have chosen the Real, City or Chelsea job by now. He comes across as a very different guy to me. He'd want to be at a proper club and without the owners peddling shit. That's why we'd be favorites if competing with the likes of Real or City.
I don't think Moyes is going anywhere soon. A new highly regarded first team coach with a good standing would be a good compromise.
City's owners don't seem like that. And Dortmund are reportedly going to spend massively this summer.
He renewed his contract when he already knew Lewa was going to Bayern, Gotze had left and he probably knows what Reus and Gundogan will do in the future. I'm sure he had offers from other clubs but yet he still stayed and renewed. Yes, he could leave because he's tired of being at a club where their best talents get poached, but on the other hand, he might want to stay and try to break the Bayern stranglehold that will surely occur in the next few seasons. He might see it as a worthy challenge.
Bring back Queiroz or Rene to be Moyes' side kick.
Yep, De Boer is another good choice.
Someone mentioned Neville. I would prefer to continue with Moyes rather than get Neville.
I really don't get it why he has to prove himself again if he's proved he can achieve at Cardiff. Personally, I believe his team talk would at least be more motivational than Moyes. And Ole is known to be one who can read games, and I honestly believe his decision-making in deploying players and coming up with plan B and strategical thinking would be better than Moyes (having seen Moyes in the past 6 months with us)
In football, it's all about scoring goals and not conceding. Reading games and making game changing decision are very important and from what we see, Moyes is quite lacking in these department (his post match interviews also give you some clues how he didn't anaylse how on earth we lost or drew, apart from very generic comments about luck and not taking chances etc. It's cringe-worthy watching his face at the dugout
All the best mangers are getting on a bit now.
Capello, Van Gaal, Scolari and Hiddink would be great if they weren't so old.
I wouldn't like to see Pochettino, Ole or Martinez at the moment because what we need is a manger who knows how to manage the best players in the world and the best clubs in the world, sure you can bring a mid table club to the top 6 but what really matters is if you can bring a team to Champions League and Premier League success.
Realistically Mourinho, Ancelotti and Guardiola won't come to United now. So if we were to get rid of Moyes I think we should break the bank for either Klopp, Simeone or Conte who all have experience managing the best players and the best teams and getting the most out of them.
Capello, Van Gaal, Scolari and Hiddink would be great if they weren't so old.
I wouldn't like to see Pochettino, Ole or Martinez at the moment because what we need is a manger who knows how to manage the best players in the world and the best clubs in the world, sure you can bring a mid table club to the top 6 but what really matters is if you can bring a team to Champions League and Premier League success.
Realistically Mourinho, Ancelotti and Guardiola won't come to United now. So if we were to get rid of Moyes I think we should break the bank for either Klopp, Simeone or Conte who all have experience managing the best players and the best teams and getting the most out of them.
Yup, they dont and with Pellegrini doing the job he is, they shouldnt be interested anyways.
And yeah, I've read about that. How's that relevant here though? Am not claiming Klopp wouldnt want to manage a side that spends.
Yes. He'll get sacked if they don't win the treble and then on summer he has to win the World Cup for them.
The manager of Madrid is always available on the summer.
When did i say he has to prove it again even if he does at Cardiff?
I said either prove himself well at Cardiff or move to a tier 2 club and do great there.
Agreed.
Should have separated the points. My latter point was directed at those that think Klopp could be disenchanted.
Definitely think the board should be savvy and get in a Director of Football or coaches to help Moyes out, they aren't going to sack him but it's clear he's bit off way more than he can chew, obviously it should be a mutual decision but I think he severely underestimated the job.
Solskjaer please, with one Premier league win in his history Ole is the logical choice
The lunatics are taking over the asylum (again)
The lunatics are taking over the asylum (again)
You haven't met the 'Giggs to take over from Moyes' brigade, I take it?Solskjaer please, with one Premier league win in his history Ole is the logical choice
The lunatics are taking over the asylum (again)
Okay, you didn't say that. So he can come to us after Cardiff then (As I am sure he will do well there
)I'm with the consensus here: Klopp (with Reus ) as first choice, or if we fail to tempt him then Simeone.
) as first choice, or if we fail to tempt him then Simeone.G Neville would also be a good shout as assistant manager. I'm going with the premise United are not going to sack Moyes. Steve Round our present assistants standing in the game and experience is hardly anything to boast about. He was involved with England and Middlesbrough during McClaren’s failed reign. He also served some time as a coach under Sam Allardyce at Newcastle, before he got Everton's job David Moyes’ assistant manager. We need a big name who players take notice when they speak.
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Whoever the club is thinking about, I hope they're making approaches now so we're not wasting time in the summer.
Klopp's the only other guy I can see who has won stuff and would play a style of football that we want, Bielsa and Solksjaer would be romantic options I suppose.
1. Why do you think this, have you heard their teamtalks? Do you play for United/everton/cardiff/Molde?
2. Again i'm in wonderment as to how you came up with this... is this based on all the deployment of players, plan bs and strategical thinking he did at Molde, or thusfar at Cardiff? Talk me through some of that, i'd love an example, to better understand.
And really, Do you think Moyes is honest in his press conferences, do you really think a man who has managed for 10+ years successfully in the Premier League can't analyse the game and understand how we lost or drew... he clearly can, but just puts a blanket message out to the media.
Cripes, man.
Bottom line is you were wrong when you claimed he'd won/achieved nothing as a manager. Also his player career and manager career thus far has simply proved he is still a winner regardless of our opinion of the level he won at. Ole may not be read for a big job just yet, but his current progress as a manager cant be underlooked.
Probably no one.
huh?
I am aware of his wins at Molde. As much as I respect it, the premiership and our job is on a different level. He'd be as much of a punt as Moyes was. We cant afford that. And again, why is his being a winner as a player being brought up? Its a plus, yes, but doesnt mean he'l make a great manager. I'm not even against his appointment, just let him fecking earn it ffs. Giggs, Neville, Ole, the lot of them. Let them earn the job.
Okay, you didn't say that. So he can come to us after Cardiff then (As I am sure he will do well there
If he does very well there in terms of their results, how they play, etc, yes.
Well, knowing us, if he doesn't land the treble he'll probably be available next summer.
I think Moyes will be our future manager, we're either going to suck it up and get used to it or maybe I can get my old seat back in the stretty as the rats leave the ship.
"Sir Alex Ferguson: If you can't support us when we lose. You can't support us when we win?"
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He rejected way better opportunities than Mainz for years and iirc finally in the last year of his contract he said that either he would stay if he managed to get them promoted and go if he didn't.