Wow that's some great business. Must be worth at least 15 million now I reckon.
Bundesliga 13/14
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Wow that's some great business. Must be worth at least 15 million now I reckon.
Christ on a bike, that third Hamburg goal was weird. It was so obvious he would have a crack from 40 yards and yet Weidenfeller decides to stay so far off his line 
Huge result that for Nurnberg. Very entertaining game.
What a shot against BVB, wonderstrike.
Just wow.
Just wow.
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Klopp's head is in Manchester.What's happening to Dortmund
Edit: Seriously shit goalkeeping for that goal.
Wonder if Brandt will get on the pitch for Leverkusen (he's on the bench). I like the look of Wolfsburgs team.
Has Rodriguez overtaken Alaba as the best LB in Europe ? Seems that way to me.
Read a funny story today in a Portuguese journal about a team called Tasmania Berlin who were promoted to the Bundesliga along with Bayern Munich in 1965.
Bayern Munich is what it is. Tasmania though, is the worst team ever in the Bundesliga and in their single season there accumulated records such as less victories in a season (2), more defeats in a season (28), less points (8), less goals scored (15), more goals taken (108), smallest home attendance in a game (827) and longest stretch without a win (32).
Bayern Munich is what it is. Tasmania though, is the worst team ever in the Bundesliga and in their single season there accumulated records such as less victories in a season (2), more defeats in a season (28), less points (8), less goals scored (15), more goals taken (108), smallest home attendance in a game (827) and longest stretch without a win (32).
Why does a Portuguese journal write about Tasmania Berlin
? But yes, they were the worst team that ever played in the Bundesliga. It was also the last season our annoying neighbours won something. Only 2 years earlier when the Bundesliga was founded, it was decided that Munich shouldn't have two teams in the 1st league, so Bayern was forced to start in the lower division. Bayern played in the Bundesliga for the first time in 65/66, finished 3rd and won the cup while 1860 had a great team that won the league. Tasmania finished last. The part about the smallest attendance is only part of the story, btw. It's even more shocking if you look at the development over the season. For the first home game 81500 people showed up. Imagine to start the season in front of such a crowd and finish it in front of so few people in such a big stadium.The league table:
The next season Bayern won their first European title, the Cup winners cup, which was the start to become one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Borussia Mönchengladbach also played in the Bundesliga for the first time that season, so we saw the two biggest German clubs of the next decade join the league the same year, along with the worst ever team.
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I don't think there's an outstanding leftback in Europe at the moment. Over the last few years, I read that about Marcelo, Coentrao, Alba, Baines, Alaba but neither was consistently on a level that made him individually standout, imo. Rodriguez is playing a brilliant season, but it's far from enough to deserve that title.
I found it an interesting read, I think it was taken / expanded from a blog that picks up funny football stories from around the world. I found it awesome, and had read in wikipedia that amazing thing of them playing in front of 81500 people in the first game
What's that last column though? I take it it's the points, but what kind of freakish way to present them is that? How does it work? I can tell the one before that is the ratio between goals scored and conceded.
EDIT: I figured it out, first number is two times vitories + draws and second number is two times defeats + draws. Why is it presented like this though?
Before they introduced 3 points for a win, it was common in Germany to show the points the team has won and lost. So if you won a game, it was 2:0, if you drew 1:1, if you lost 0:2. Then you add it up like you do with the goals. No idea why we used that format prior to the change, it would have been enough to show the points won by a team.
Ah ok, more sense than my convoluted edit. Didn't notice they all add to 78.
Maybe I should have used the English wiki table instead to avoid confusion .
.The ball swerved to the left right before it rattled in the net. Wouldn't go as far as label it as a mistake by Weidenfeller but I doubt someone like Manuel Neuer would have conceded that goal.Christ on a bike, that third Hamburg goal was weird. It was so obvious he would have a crack from 40 yards and yet Weidenfeller decides to stay so far off his line
Jonathan Schmid v Augsburg
It allowed a better overview between teams who hadn't played an equal nr of games.
Good call, makes perfect sense.
I think Alaba and Filipe Luís are the two best at the moment.
1st penalty for Braunschweig: Why no sent-off for Schäfer......that was 100% the same situation like Szczesny's with Robben's.......i don't unterstand the refereesEpic stuff at in Nürnberg.
Braunschweig was one goal up and playing with 11 vs 10, just before half time Kumbela even bottles a penalty. Then after half time Nürnberg score two goals in as many minutes
If Draxler goes in the summer.....i think Schalke will buy him...........Firmino is a very good player
I love Calhanoglu's free-kicks
Filipe Luis has been excellent every time I've seen him, I agree.
Well Hannover have survived the opening 20 minutes against Bayern.
Dortmund's Sven Bender out for 10 weeks. Nothing's gone right for them this season.
The new Scottish Premier League
I doubt something will change next season.......again 30+ points for Bayern Munich
Bayern Munich with Lewandowski and Dortmund without Lewandowski
I doubt something will change next season.......again 30+ points for Bayern Munich
Bayern Munich with Lewandowski and Dortmund without Lewandowski
Well done, they should be proud
Schweinsteiger to Thiago
They lasted 30 minutes before Bayern decided to end the game. 2-0, game over.
Who is Hannover's striker ? Looks familiar..
Yeah Dortmund is gradually losing quality over the seasons while Bayern seems to improve their squad every year even though it seems barely possible to improve on this squad.
I don't think they would have played a 90 points season (like Bayern probably will), but I think without those injuries (Gündogan most of all) they would've played a good season. After all they had the same amount of points after last year's 22nd match day.
I just noticed the table is practically divided in three zones. Place 10 is only 7 points ahead of the relegation places almost the same as between the 10th and the 9th placed teams which are divided by 8 points. Then it's only 9 points from place 9 to the second spot and the third zone is Bayern on it's own 19 points ahead of the second.
So while Bayern practically has no competition there is practically nothing decided about who gets relegated and who gets the CL spots and seems to stay a very tight race until the end of the season.
I also wonder if Bayern will be able to directly break their record from last season again, if they keep up their current form I think it won't be much of a problem for them to do it.
So while Bayern practically has no competition there is practically nothing decided about who gets relegated and who gets the CL spots and seems to stay a very tight race until the end of the season.
I also wonder if Bayern will be able to directly break their record from last season again, if they keep up their current form I think it won't be much of a problem for them to do it.
Hannover will be thrilled that Bayern are now going to bring on Robben.
Diouff, who was here.
Imagine being 4-0 down and watching Robben and Kroos coming on.
Agree on the second part, dissagree on the first one.
Klopp had never such a strong squad under him like this season. We never had such a good 3rd CB like Sokratis or FB back up like Großkreutz (after his conversion) or such an efficient fourth offensive midfielder like Aubameyang or two high level CM (Gündogan + Sahin) at the same time.
Dortmund´s problem is not the quality of the first team or even the bench. The simple truth is that we don´t have the financial means to compensate such an amount of injuries: Gündogan (whole season), Subotic, Kuba and now probably Bender (more than a half), Piszczek (five months), Hummels (four months), Schmelzer and Kehl (three months). These are just the ones, who were/are out for longer periods of time. Besides a handful of players everyone was injured at one point in this season. Transfer this amount of injuries to any former Dortmund team and we never win a single title or reach the CL final.
This is not exclusive for us, though. Any team with an annual wage bill between 80 and 120 Mil. € could not handle that. The only clubs, who are able to do so are clubs with 200+ Mil. € wages like Bayern Munich.
People try to find the reasons in Dortmund´s problem in our system and our lack of creativity and "plan B" vs. deep standing opponents, yet we have the exact same amount of points as last year with Gündogan and Götze. We actually have a pretty good record against lower table teams this season and create nearly as much chances as Bayern Munich (and way more than the rest of the league), but lost a lot of our fixtures vs. direct competition because of our unstable defense.
The team has also a problem with their motivation in games around CL ties, which is to a point understandable. The title is long gone, so they concentrate on the cup competitions. The problem is, that this year the fight for the CL places is more fierce, which is something they need to realize at some point. Arrogant perfomances just like yesterday, when the whole team had their minds already in Russia, are not acceptable. We had one short period of urgency in the game after the 0:2 and created three big chances in 10 minutes. This just shows that they could have easily won that game with or without injuries, if they would have put the necessary effort in it.
I was just arguing over same thing with Bayern fan on other forum, I am glad I wasn't far off from Dortmund's fan point of view. No way Dortmund/Klopp should be blamed for any of this, even losing their best players(still, nothing they could do about it).
Injuries are bad luck, I think you get even more injuries with bigger squad since you rotate more and some players have better injury records when played all the time than when they are being rotated. It's the same with United, I am surprised United fans can't see the similarities.
Similar to Arsenal/Wenger a couple of years back: the combination of being robbed of a couple of key talents every season and not having the money to build a 24-man squad kills you. We're just emerging from that with added £££.
For what it's worth, I know quite a few Bayern fans who would agree with every word Sphaero wrote here. I also know quite a few idiotic Bayern fans who instantly started blaming their own club for selling Gustavo, when we had all our midfielders out injured at the beginning of the season. You simply can't prepare for every crazy situation, you add a few versatile players to have some options, try to have some youth players available who could do a job if necessary, but when injuries hit you as hard as it happened at Dortmund this season, then you're fecked. It's that simple.
Ok thanks. Googled him a while ago though.
Yep, you never know with injuries. I know many agree with him, but there are still people who will blame anyone for anything.
I don't think you can compare Dortmund to Arsenal, because Klopp's style makes them far less reliant on individual players. They lost their two best midfielders from last season, one of them even without any kind of replacement, but they still won their CL group. This might sound weird but I think the better the opposition are the easier it gets for Dortmund to perform and to some extend the less reliant they are on individual class.
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