I'm sure he can do both.
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I'm sure he can do both.
No idea, reckon he would relish the chance to step out into Old Trafford again at some point in his career. No idea whether this might happen now or if it did whether he'd turn it down. Would you?
Given who is on the executive committee making the decision, announcing you want Keane as your assistant is as good as ruling yourself out.
I wouldn't turn it down, no.
The more eccentric stories I hear about him the more I want him to be our manager. Lets face it, he's not going to stick around for 10 years but who cares? Lets get what we can from him then bring in Klopp or Pep at the end of their contracts and move on from there.
Either way, Van Gaal is clearly the right man to sort out the egos we have in the current team and get the best out of them. It makes sense. My only concern is the board deciding that he's not 'decent' enough to manage United. If they didn't hire Mourinho because he gouged someone's eye, what are they going to think about a man who does drop kick impressions on the touchline? I we go with the safe bet again (O'Neil, Bruce, Hughes) we're just setting ourselves up for another failure.
Either way, Van Gaal is clearly the right man to sort out the egos we have in the current team and get the best out of them. It makes sense. My only concern is the board deciding that he's not 'decent' enough to manage United. If they didn't hire Mourinho because he gouged someone's eye, what are they going to think about a man who does drop kick impressions on the touchline? I we go with the safe bet again (O'Neil, Bruce, Hughes) we're just setting ourselves up for another failure.
All I can really say for sure is that this is definitely going to be a chapter in someones book at some stage.
I don't think Keane would be let anywhere near Old Trafford while Sir Alex is still here.
Agreed, whoever comes in needs to clear out a lot of players.
I would take Giggs as assistant manager over Keane, ditto G.Neville, and quite a few others if he wanted a former player who knows us inside and out as his no.2.
Roy Keane was a legend here no doubt, but I don't think I'd ever like to see him back here officially in any capacity.
Roy Keane was a legend here no doubt, but I don't think I'd ever like to see him back here officially in any capacity.
Keane and Van Gaal.
The players would be shitting themselves at half time if they're playing shit.
We should probably take this as Van Gaal saying to United, "I don't care what United have done in the past under Ferguson et. al, if I come I will be in charge".
Not if Ferguson has anything to do with it.
Fletcher said he wished Keane had stayed on, who else is left from that time? Rio - who will be gone at the seasons end? And Rooney - who Keane was always complimentary of.
Good point.
Fergie isn't the manager anymore. Van Gaal will bring in whoever he wants if he's chosen.
If Roy Keane can get back into the Ireland setup as a coach given that he walked out / was sent home and all the stuff surrounding that, stepping into a role in Old Trafford would be like jelly and ice-cream to the man.
Oh I'll be back, don't worry. Whether that's going to benefit the country or not is another matter
Could talk about this for ages but we would be going ever so slightly off topic in this thread!
You'd most certainly will benefit the country on your return mate. I like the cut of yer jib. I'll buy ya a pint sometime!
Why would he chose Roy Keane? I doubt they really know each other and how they work, and Keane doesnt have the insides at United anymore. Doesnt make sense to me. Probably paper bollocks
I wont be surprised if the Roy Keane link is another pathetic attempt by the media to add spice to this saga. Why would VG want Roy Keane? He never managed him and he barely know anything about the guy. Rene on the other hand...
He's not even been offered the job yet and he's already discussing possible staff?
Nah, I don't buy it. Paper bollocks.
Nah, I don't buy it. Paper bollocks.
Christ, there's already one big-headed Dutchman at United, another two will be asking for trouble!
Keane and Van Gaal.
The players would be shitting themselves at half time if they're playing shit.
Actually....no.
Times have changed. Roy Keane is not a player anymore. His hips are a mess so he cant tackle people to submission as he used to do without risking severe consequences to himself. Also we all know what happens when a manager/coach loses the dressing room.
Football is all about man management these days. Managers must smile at the cnut whose not giving his 100% only to sell him quickly when the occasion arise. Roy is far too honest and short tempered for that.
Its rumored that Rene left because he wasnt allowed to conduct the team's training himself. Moyes was 50 and could handle the job quite easily. At age 62 I cant see VG running up and down the pitch.
I dont like Rene's attitude myself and I see him pretty overrated in here. The guy was shite as a manager and as a United youth manager he was nowhere near to his predecessor Eric Harrison (whom to be fair is in my opinion the third best managing staff United had ever had after SAF and Sir Matt). However he's the right man for the job. He knows United inside out, the players love him and he's a big fan of the Ajax setup which VG contributed to build in the first place
True, fair enough. I'm just skeptical that say Chris Smalling or Antonio Valencia knows significantly more about the man than we do. A good chunk of fans will have been reading some of the material @Alock1 posted in the football forum thread, I've a feeling most players probably haven't.
Your point is still a valid one though.
For me, the other big issue is his aversion to signing players. He will probably not sign anyone if appointed.
One problem mitigates the other. If he doesnt need to make (m)any signings, it isnt such a huge problem if he joins us later. Obviously it isnt ideal, but I dont think LVG would need so long to assess the squad and get up to speed, he'd hit the ground running through a combination of being more decisive and being more comfortable trusting the judgement of others, such as Giggs, who work under him (according to that FIFA interview).
I highly doubt that he won't sign anyone, I think he will sign players we never considered under Moyes and back himself to get more from players like Welbeck,Cleverley,Lingard and Jones . Being aware of the fate that befell his disastrous predecessor he'd like to avoid the same and will have been made aware, by RVP and Rene (who I suspect will come back) of the team's shortcomings at fullback and midfield . He won't spend ridiculous sums and if he can get us settled in the top four then the Glazers will absolutely love him .
Scholes and Giggs as part of LvG's coaching side is just about the dream ticket for what we are looking for right now and also to train these guys up as coaches of the future.
When he joined Bayern he signed Robben (aged 25) and Gomez (aged 23) for a combined 47m, that summer he spent 65m. That was back in 2009. He'll spend big in the right places.
He also spent 40m when he first went to Barcelona in 1998!
It would be detrimental, I think. He's got way too much animosity towards the club, notoriously little patience, horrible temper, a shocking record as a manager, plus he's already with Ireland.
Van Gaal is supposedly fairly authoritarian as it is, a club doesn't need two dictators.
He'll take one look at Cleverley and Fellaini in training and he'll be on the iPads scouting midfielders on Football Manager before he can say, "Shit!".
No - he will go into the youth department and look for a hard working talent he can form...
You get the feeling that it'll be er...interesting with Van Gaal at the helm. At least next season won't be dull.
Keane and Van Gaal would be a recipe for fireworks and if true is probably LvG testing the waters, seeing how much control he will have. If he's not allowed him because of Ferguson, he won't come. Power play
Said that before, will say it again. If we hire Van Gaal, hope we get De Boer as his assistant.
Well according to @Balu (https://www.redcafe.net/threads/who-would-you-have-as-our-new-manager.383705/page-26#post-15274960), the purchase of Robben was forced upon him. Now we don't have a structure at our club where a person apart from the manager makes the call on transfers. This is why I feel we might not see us be too active in the market.
Yes that makes sense. I still hope we sign players, especially in midfield and left back, as the league is too competitive to just afford working with what we have here.
I hope so. I think we have to to be honest. I reckon if he gets the job he'll have it explained to him that we are going to do some rebuilding, he should suggest any targets he wants, he can have a look at who we are thinking about and comment, and then Woodward will get on with it. He's used to working with DOFs so to be honest I dont think it will faze him that others are taking care of it.
He didn't buy Gomez either like Redsky says in the post you quoted. That deal was done long before he joined, same with Tymoshchuk. Both players were signed for the next season when Klinsmann was still in charge. Van Gaal's reaction was publicly stating, that those signings weren't his and he doesn't care if they play or not, they don't fit in his ideas for the team.
Holland, Ajax and erm, Nottingham Forrest, "legend" Bryan Roy reckons he'd jump at the chance.
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9279170/Roy-Bryan-Says-Van-Gaal-Wants-The-United-Job
Have to say, the more I read about the man, the more I want him in charge...
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9279170/Roy-Bryan-Says-Van-Gaal-Wants-The-United-Job
Have to say, the more I read about the man, the more I want him in charge...
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