Louis van Gaal | Manchester United manager

Status
Not open for further replies.
That Dutch squad isnt too great. He's doing the best with what he's got to be fair.

I think our fans have been extremely over the top with how amazing he is and what he can do for us.

Yes, better than Moyes, but let's just see what he can do before we start celebrating our return to the top.

Incidentally, I was shocked at his decision to let Vlaar (who looked like he was shitting himself) take the first penalty.

This. The entire air of delusion with people acting like he's Jesus coming to immediately heal the sick and cure all is just :wenger:

But I guess I understand the need for over-optimism after last season
 
This. The entire air of delusion with people acting like he's Jesus coming to immediately heal the sick and cure all is just :wenger:

But I guess I understand the need for over-optimism after last season
He definitely has something to prove. United is a huge ship but at least now we have a manager who will work with some experienced, title winning staff.
 
This. The entire air of delusion with people acting like he's Jesus coming to immediately heal the sick and cure all is just :wenger:

But I guess I understand the need for over-optimism after last season

I don't think it's an air of delusion at all.
Louis Van Gaal is our manager. He will bring a much needed freshness to the club that has been badly needed since 2009. Players are now playing for their future and David Moyes is not around to piss anyone off.

If anything, it's an air of excitement
 
I completely understand the logic behind it. But it was a gamble. You use your best penalty takers first. Standard. Anything else is a deliberate risk.

Can't exactly remember where I saw it but I read an article last week which said that the best tactic to win penalties is have your best takers take the last ones, they had stats to back it up. I don't know how it helps mind, also the team that took the first penalty won 60% of the time. Holland did both tonight and still lost so doesn't say much about those stats :lol:
 
I want him to do better than Moyes for the sake of the Caf. It was fecking dire in the football forums for most of last season

It was dire everywhere when he was our manager....My life went to shit as soon as he was appointed manager and only started turning around when he got the chop.

The guy is cursed!!
 
He's a good manager. I don't think he's done spectacularly well with this squad though. Once Casillas decided he was going to forfeit the matches against them and Chile, Holland haven't had to face an opponent who are considered a really good international side (up until tonight).

So for you this squad can win the World Cup, on paper ?
 
We have some right jokers here who were desperately waiting to laugh at LvG and are now clutching at straws.
They were desperate for him to have a poor tournament. He didn't, so now they're just clutching at straws. A penalty shoot out from a world cup final - great effort no matter how you look at it.

Absolutely. Its actually really sad and desperate.
 
He spoke to Vlaar just before the penos. Asked him a question to which Vlaar nodded convincingly. It was clear who was going to take the first one.

I believe LvG took a number of tactical risks to try to win the game tonight which didn't pay off. Firstly, I believe he thought he didn't have that great a chance to win a second penalty shoot out in a row, especially against Argentina. As such he decided that the match must be won in open play. He rode the early part of the game neutralising Argentina ready for later on when the Dutch would deliberately get more in to an open game. His subs across the normal and extra time periods were tactical e.g. eliminating the threat down their left side and preventing any risk of Martins Indi getting sent off. The replacement of RvP was also a deliberate tactic to try to win the game in extra time with fresh legs in a more advanced position. He must have had Vlar down as a pen taker from their practice sessions and thus decided to spring a psychological surprise in which an unexpected player took and scored the first pen. This time his various tactical changes work out.
 
It was dire everywhere when he was our manager....My life went to shit as soon as he was appointed manager and only started turning around when he got the chop.

The guy is cursed!!

Exactly the same as me mate.

Shocking period in my life when Moyes was in charge of our club, not sure I smiled for 7 months.
 
It was dire everywhere when he was our manager....My life went to shit as soon as he was appointed manager and only started turning around when he got the chop.

The guy is cursed!!

Same with me :lol:
 
I believe LvG took a number of tactical risks to try to win the game tonight which didn't pay off. Firstly, I believe he thought he didn't have that great a chance to win a second penalty shoot out in a row, especially against Argentina. As such he decided that the match must be won in open play. He rode the early part of the game neutralising Argentina ready for later on when the Dutch would deliberately get more in to an open game. His subs across the normal and extra time periods were tactical e.g. eliminating the threat down their left side and preventing any risk of Martins Indi getting sent off. The replacement of RvP was also a deliberate tactic to try to win the game in extra time with fresh legs in a more advanced position. He must have had Vlar down as a pen taker from their practice sessions and thus decided to spring a psychological surprise in which an unexpected player took and scored the first pen. This time his various tactical changes work out.

He's already said since that two players said they didn't want to take the first penalty so he then asked Vlaar.
 
It was dire everywhere when he was our manager....My life went to shit as soon as he was appointed manager and only started turning around when he got the chop.

The guy is cursed!!

Don't know why but :lol:
 
Exactly the same as me mate.

Shocking period in my life when Moyes was in charge of our club, not sure I smiled for 7 months.

Same with me :lol:

Bloody hell :lol:

Don't know why but :lol:

It's genuinely true :lol:
I lost my girlfriend, I lost my job, I lost members of my family, I lost some of my closest friends, I had health scares....You name it, it happened.

The following weekend after Moyes was sacked, I went out and I scored with a woman. First time since he was appointed.

The man is evil!
 
It's genuinely true :lol:
I lost my girlfriend, I lost my job, I lost members of my family, I lost some of my closest friends, I had health scares....You name it, it happened.

The following weekend after Moyes was sacked, I went out and I scored with a woman. First time since he was appointed.

The man is evil!

Fecking hell mate! I'm really glad the awful things have stopped happening to you and I guess your first reaction after Moyes was sacked has been something along the lines of ''what the hell took you so long?!'' :D

I try really hard to not be superstitious but stuff like these really test my beliefs :nervous:
 
Fecking hell mate! I'm really glad the awful things have stopped happening to you and I guess your first reaction after Moyes was sacked has been something along the lines of ''what the hell took you so long?!'' :D

I try really hard to not be superstitious but stuff like these really test my beliefs :nervous:

Don't worry, Big Louis is here now....There is no need to be afraid anymore
 
He's done a great job for Netherlands considering how poor the overall squad is. They have two excellent players in Robben and Van Persie, but it goes downhill really fast. Their defense is made up of bunch of unproven nobodies. Ron Vlaar is their most experienced and best defender, and he barely stands out in a struggling PL side who have conceded 130 goals in the past two years in the league. Midfield isn't significantly better either. De Jong is a solid, but limited destroyer. Sneijder is past his best, and we're back to a bunch of unproven nobodies again for the rest.

If they won the shootout, then you'd struggle to name a worse squad to make the World Cup Final.
 
He's done a great job for Netherlands considering how poor the overall squad is. They have two excellent players in Robben and Van Persie, but it goes downhill really fast. Their defense is made up of bunch of unproven nobodies. Ron Vlaar is their most experienced and best defender, and he barely stands out in a struggling PL side who have conceded 130 goals in the past two years in the league. Midfield isn't significantly better either. De Jong is a solid, but limited destroyer. Sneijder is past his best, and we're back to a bunch of unproven nobodies again for the rest.

If they won the shootout, then you'd struggle to name a worse squad to make the World Cup Final.
And of that, Van Persie was shocking apart from the first game and was generally a bit useless for them. So it was Robben on his own pretty much.
 
Agree with all of that, always thought it was stupid.
 
Bloody hell :lol:



It's genuinely true :lol:
I lost my girlfriend, I lost my job, I lost members of my family, I lost some of my closest friends, I had health scares....You name it, it happened.

The following weekend after Moyes was sacked, I went out and I scored with a woman. First time since he was appointed.

The man is evil!
:lol: Glad you turned it around!
 
I hope he doesn't suffer a burnout by around February. Going from a world cup to managing United can be taxing for anyone, even Van Gaal.
 
If anyone had said to the Dutch fans before the tournament their team would be in the semis and a penalty shootout away from reaching the final they would've laughed at them.

He is up there with the best managers in the game past and present. Tactically in my opinion he is as good as any manager. The only flaw in his career has been him falling out with people which has led to his demise at Barcelona and Bayern. The only manager that I can say is his equal in the EPL is Mourinho, even then I prefer Van Gaal because he's more adventurous in his approach compared to Mourinho who will no doubt serve up shit on a stick type football as we've seen many times in the past. The Dutch NT team he's managing now is very limited and Van Gaal in my opinion has more than exceeded expectations in the World Cup.

As United manager LVG will look to dominate teams like he did at Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern. The hope our rivals are hanging on to is that he will fall out with key personnel and self destruct. But having followed him for awhile now he seems to have mellowed quite abit compared to his early managerial career and that bodes well for us.
 
Maybe the silver lining of his WC team going out in Semi Final, so he still has some 'hunger' left this season for United to succeed.
 
He's a good manager. I don't think he's done spectacularly well with this squad though. Once Casillas decided he was going to forfeit the matches against them and Chile, Holland haven't had to face an opponent who are considered a really good international side (up until tonight).

Mexico...
 
Should have brought Krul in for the shootout. Their starting keeper should have saved two of them.
 
Let's hope his style won't mirror that of the Dutch team these past weeks. Bar a freak win against Spain, who dominated them in the 1st half until the goal, they have played utterly boring football.
 
He is right about Saturday, complete waste of time, the last thing Brazil want to do is play in front of their fans who are after blood!

Can't wait for him to arrive now, can smell the new season, press conference next week before leaving for America?
 
The fact that he is basically not taking any time off between jobs shows how dedicated he is. Still people need to adjust their expectations for him. Our players will need time to adapt to his tactics and philosophy especially after Moyes. I am not holding high hopes to win the title in the first season with him but with the right players and a bit of luck it is possible.
 
This forum is filled with people who get too hyped up. When the dutch were winning most here considered LVG a genius. Persons imagined all the great things he would do. Now that they lost some are beginning to doubt him.
He is a great coach but if you raise your expectations too high you are bound to be disappointed.
Leave him alone and let him do what is best for the club. Results may not be immediate and the decisions he makes may not be to everyone's liking.
Just roll with it, he is the best we have available to us.
 
He did a marvelous job with a limited Dutch squad. Great achievement to take them this far with some great management. Shame Sneijder had a poor tournament and RvP not living up to first game, meaning too much depended on one man, Robben.
I agree! If you look back at previous Dutch squads this was the most average one ever, apart from RVP and Robben. No where near a vintage Dutch side and got them all the way to the semis! He has the ability to lift players and enhance their abilities, I mean for me Vlaar was the stand out defender of the tournament! Ron Vlaar, Aston Villas Ron Vlaar, I mean he looked amazing throughout that tournament! Which is a testament to Van Gaals managerial skills.
I cannot wait to LVG at OT now hope he has a nice holiday but somehow I doubt he will.
 
Winning the World Cup would have made his arrival perfect but he's come out of it having achieved more than was expected and the performance against Spain was sublime.
 

Its ridiculous. This guy has been around for ages taking jobs which are more stressful then the OT one and still doing well. You don't believe it? Just look at Vidic interview in Italy as the journalists were at his neck from day 1 asking him if he talked with Chicarito over a prospective deal with Inter. The guy had been with Inter for few days and on his first interview for the club, he's already expected by the media to become some sort of agent who lure United's players to Inter's favor. No wonder why the likes of Vialli and Zola described the EPL as some sort of holiday resort when compared to the stressful Serie A.

In the North football is a sport or a job. Down in the South of Europe (and South America) its everything.
 
He's a good manager. I don't think he's done spectacularly well with this squad though. Once Casillas decided he was going to forfeit the matches against them and Chile, Holland haven't had to face an opponent who are considered a really good international side (up until tonight).

Chile themselves? They were one of the most impressive teams in the entire group stages and were very unlucky not to knock out Brazil. Way better squad than the Dutch on paper.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.