It's just 3-5-2. The only reason he's changed it to 3-4-1-2 is to represent Mata in the hole.
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It's just 3-5-2. The only reason he's changed it to 3-4-1-2 is to represent Mata in the hole.
Van Gaal has been fecking brilliant so far. He's come in and immediately put his mark on everything. The players are desperate to impress him, because they know the moment the let standards slip, he'll feck them up!
He has such a strong personality and I think that will be a key for our season. Players will want to perform and play good not to feel his anger. Just like under Fergie.
Just like under Fergie.That's a very generous comment on Jose! As a matter of fact he's playing a mind game attacking how United was willing to play a teenager such wage without upsetting the dressing room. He's sh*it stirring no doubt.
To say that Chelsea couldn't afford it was nonsense. He's just using this as a talking point to maybe create controvacy to unsettle the United dressing room. It's also a message to LvG he's smarter than him not to sign Luke.
I am happy to hear LvG's response, that he would rather speak to Jose and not expressing an opinion in the media.
I have a wee feeling that LvG might be able to shut him up
That's a very generous comment on Jose! As a matter of fact he's playing a mind game attacking how United was willing to play a teenager such wage without upsetting the dressing room. He's sh*it stirring no doubt.
To say that Chelsea couldn't afford it was nonsense. He's just using this as a talking point to maybe create controvacy to unsettle the United dressing room. It's also a message to LvG he's smarter than him not to sign Luke.
I am happy to hear LvG's response, that he would rather speak to Jose and not expressing an opinion in the media.
I have a wee feeling that LvG might be able to shut him up
Um... I think TheMuffer's right, not sure the comment was meant to be provocative. And the financial information suggests that Chelsea are having to be careful about their expenditure this season. You're being a little paranoid.
What is more impressive is, LvG has this winning mentality he set standard high and players will need to do their "utmost best".
I am just hoping he also possesses the required man-management skill sir Alex had all these years to achieve success
Found a bit about the presser, no video though.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...al-to-speak-with-jose-mourinho-over-luke-shaw
Jamie Jackson is making a lot of assumptions. LvG is not really going to have a serious conversation with Jose, who was spot on and cynical as always, about a comment Jose made when a journalist asked him something about Shaw.
He also didn't really confirm 'our interest' in Strootman, but since he didn't deny it either they made a nice headline of it.
Wonder how long it'll take until LVG will go on ranting about media twisting his words, fuming and grunting half in Dutch half in English.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...al-to-speak-with-jose-mourinho-over-luke-shaw
Jamie Jackson is making a lot of assumptions. LvG is not really going to have a serious conversation with Jose, who was spot on and cynical as always, about a comment Jose made when a journalist asked him something about Shaw.
He also didn't really confirm 'our interest' in Strootman, but since he didn't deny it either they made a nice headline of it.
Wonder how long it'll take until LVG will go on ranting about media twisting his words, fuming and grunting half in Dutch half in English.
Have you even read the details of what Jose said? He's not just talking about the financial aspect of Chelsea!
Are you not even a little suspicious why he brought up the dressing room upset he foresaw and that his door would be knocked by his players questioning why a English teenager's being paid so much?
He also boasted how his new signing of a Brazilian who won everything in Spain and cost Chelsea so little to recruit whereas man united signed some English lad who had not those credential.
If it's not provocative, what is?
A simple answer to simple question from the journo should not have gone so far into details methinks
I am hoping he will ban some journo who asked inappropriate questions.
Too bad it's not his native language and he needs to think of the right vocabularies most of the time. It may not be easy for him to express his discontentment sometimes. But he will be fine.
He seems to be a straight forward person and he meant what he said, especially reciting his own credential haha... But I like it we have a strong manager and hopefully the fear factor at OT will be quickly restored when the season begins.
Yes. He's defending his own decision not to buy Shaw, but there's no real suggestion that he's attacking United for doing so. As he acknowledges, the two clubs are currently in different financial situations. You're being thin skinned. When Mourinho snipes at an opposition manager, he makes it much more obvious that that's what he's doing.
Mourinho loves LVG. He was his secondary mentor/ He's not sniping at him yet.
what a load of speculative rubbish.That's a very generous comment on Jose! As a matter of fact he's playing a mind game attacking how United was willing to play a teenager such wage without upsetting the dressing room. He's sh*it stirring no doubt.
To say that Chelsea couldn't afford it was nonsense. He's just using this as a talking point to maybe create controvacy to unsettle the United dressing room. It's also a message to LvG he's smarter than him not to sign Luke.
I am happy to hear LvG's response, that he would rather speak to Jose and not expressing an opinion in the media.
I have a wee feeling that LvG might be able to shut him up
If you saw the full interview rather than just selecting paragraphs you will see that he also said
“It would’ve killed immediately our balance and we couldn’t allow that. I don’t criticise another club for paying it. They can pay what they want. I don’t have any comment about it. But for my club we can say it would be very negative for us"
Well I am not convinced he's just being honest. I am glad LvG didnt take the bait and resort to a shouting match in the media, who apparently want headlines and stuff among rival managers.
I agree. While I would understand why van gaal would not like the comments, I don't think mourinhos intention was to provoke but simply to defend his decision.
there is no bait to take.....you have contrived it all in your own mind.
Wenger used to be the one who complained about other clubs paying the high wages...did you come up with outrageous conspiracy theories back then?
I admit I didn't see the full interview but the bit you mentioned did appear in the "selective" reporting.
"I don’t criticise another club for paying it. They can pay what they want. I don’t have any comment about it..."
So he doesn't criticise another club or comment about it, yet he went on and on about the high wage? Are you a Mou fan boy? I am not and probably am biased against him. So we might need to agree to differ mate.
Mourinho didn't suggest anything that any of us haven't already thought.
Shaw is on big money for his age and is under pressure to do well. If he fails to justify his wage, he probably will start looking like a white elephant in the dressing room, like Fellaini does now.
I think Shaw will be fine personally but with Chelsea's FFP concerns, it's understandable they can't be risking that sort of money on him.
all he did was to relate to Chelsea and their present wage structure for certain players (age groups)..did he actually refer to Man Utds wage structure???...no, because he doesnt know it or if by some chance he did...he wasnt going to comment on it.
And no...I am just a realist who sees the difference between facts and speculation
seriously, what do you expect the club to do? It's a damn if you do and damn if you don't kind of situation. Many tranfer muppets go on and on about us not signing players (not understanding how hard negotiation can be re fees and wages among other factors). And then on the other hand you're agreeing with Jose's concern about wages to a teenager. Since when Chelsea are genuinely concerned about wages and fees openly? Jose was comparing Luke with his own new signing and obviously suggesting Luke is a high risk and implying he's not worthy of it.
Yes, united can afford his wage, but it's also about whether the decision to pay him as such is a smart move. It's early days and we don't need someone to comment on his worthiness to be honest.
Well I am glad LvG does not think like you did.
You need to give over, take a seat and calm down. No one is complaining about us signing Shaw.
We are merely pointing out that Mourinho isn't really playing mind games. He's stating facts, really.
The irony of Chelsea missing out on someone due to money is just hilarious.
He won the league by blowing everyone else out of the water.
Most football fans can't wait until their backer disappears and they go back to where they belong.
We're beyond that now. Even if Roman leaves, they'll be fine.
Not PSG/Man City fine but they'll still have plenty of money.
again speculation by you as he didnt actually say that.
All he said was that Luis was a lot less expensive which again is fact. 16m v 27m plus the difference in wages.
Chelsea are and have been very concerned about FFP for the last couple of years or so and have made huge efforts to restrict the ever increasing wage bills clubs seem to have nowadays
In my opinion, perhaps he did take a slight dig at the club but he forgets how himself and his club normally do their business. Pot calling the kettle an all that.
However, LvG didn't react to it and didn't want to start a slagging match in public, not in the media. The man isn't exactly shy and would expect a few rants/digs from himself throughout the season but he did the right thing not saying anything at this particular moment.
However, LvG didn't react to it and didn't want to start a slagging match in public, not in the media. The man isn't exactly shy and would expect a few rants/digs from himself throughout the season but he did the right thing not saying anything at this particular moment.
Which is about 3rd-4th place.
So while it's clear Roman brought them a few league titles(Although I do think simply saying that, is slightly misleading people do forget how good that Chelsea team was. And also how much better in the long term it made United as well.)
Anyway I'm slightly going off topic. The Mou comments is like all his comments nowadays,the mean very little.
He's football's Morrissey
And if he went they would be sold to the next multi billionaire or consortium just like Liverpool, Utd etc etc etc
Who gives a flying feck what Mourinho thinks. I'm sure an extra player on 100k a week at Chelsea would have no implications on FFP, or squad harmony. I would be surprised if Shaw is on that much anyway.
Say it ain't so? You a seemed so objective
We are all discussing everything basing on speciation and drawing inference from what and how things are sai and who said it. No need for you to adopt double standard to win an argument. Many "facts" are always subject to interpretation. There's a difference between yours and mine so please don't tell me your interpretation is more believable than mine.
We have to agree to differ.
Just typical Mourinho comments. Wouldn't pay too much attention to them. Gets him in the press and some praise saying how he didn't bow down to wages, while also putting a bit of focus on us and saying something along the lines of how we wouldn't have been Shaw's first choice if Chelsea were seriously in for him and away from the situation that is unfolding there with them re-signing a 36-year-old striker and about to let go a 21-year-old one who could have been the solution to their problems in that department last year.
Doubt he had much intention of signing Shaw in the first place.
Doubt he had much intention of signing Shaw in the first place.
Can't believe people still read too much on Mourinhou's comments, He only cares about his team and himself more than anything. Shaw is still young these kind of comments might unintentionally affect him in a bad way and LvG doesn't like it, that's all. I don't think this is tactical mindgame and shite.
Van Gaal seems to be the spoiled, instant gratification transfer muppet's worst nightmare. Working on the "brains" of current players, making them believe in themselves again, rather than spraying money at other clubs.
Plenty as in how much? I doubt they'd get near us, Arsenal or Liverpool. They'd be similar to Spurs financially.
They make more money than Arsenal and Liverpool last time I checked. Revenue I mean.
The most important signing of the summer without doubt. Hopefully he can sprinkle a little gold dust on some of our more talented youngsters. We do need strengthening obviously, but he'll get at least 20 to 30% more out of what he already has at the club. Transfer muppets will have their day in the sunshine this summer I believe, but the performance of the team won't be about individuals. Watching his training sessions reminds me of Bayern and Barca's approach. Albeit, we're at baby stages with the whole thing.
Good post. Yeah if LvG can reinvigorate 20-30% out of our current players, it will lessen the need to blow £100-200m on feel good Hollywood signings and give some of our younger players a better chance of contributing. Not that I object to buying a couple of big name players, but the focus has to be on improving our current players, and hearing Van Gaal talk about working on the players' "brains" is music to my ears. Nani, Cleverley, Jones, Young, Valencia, et all have all plateaued in the past year or two and reinvigorating them would be massive.
Mourinho is talking bullshite as he does have a player who has been on 170 £ k per week since he has been 21! Did that threaten squad harmony and whatever? Fair enough Mourinho didn't sign Hazard, but that still doesn't change the fact that Hazard is on that much money. I don't know if there are/were any other Chelsea players on that much. Maybe JT and Lampard only? Even then I am not sure. Also, where does Shaw's 120 £ come from, all sources reported 100 k which is still too much, but as I said it's Mourinho is not in a position to question that as long as they have a player in a similar situation.
I've always been a big fan of Mourinho because he's a born winner, with a big personality to boot. He seriously went down in my estimation last season when he benched Mata, whist proclaiming it wasn't his squad and they won't win anything until he's built his own team. Van Gaal is the total opposite, he will embrace what he has and try to make the most of it. You can almost guarantee he's going to make a star out of someone at the club, no one would of expected.
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