Alex Salmond and Independence

I really don't think the impact on the economy will be as big as people think. Once YES has been confirmed, some very clever people with very good ideas will have two years to sort everything out. Even if some of them were against independence to begin with -- and might still believe that NO would have been the better choice in a vacuum -- once it's accepted that YES is happening no matter what, things will get sorted to the best they can be.

Ignoring Scotland's finances for a moment (because enough has been said on that), I think the UK might find itself better off. Yes, they'd lose the immediate access to the oil tax revenue, but it also means they have a smaller pool of people to whom they have to distribute public finances. Sure, the finances themselves will be lower, but smaller machines run more efficiently.

I'd be genuinely happy if all the countries in the current United Kingdom just broke off from one another and went it alone, except for NI which would probably rejoin with the Republic. Especially if they all remained in the EU and so kept their open borders and free trade anyway.
 
dinners85 said:
On a lighter note

Big tent now up between my house and the village hall (polling station)

Music, pig on a spit and and beers.

We all know each other and pretty much know each others political views but it's great to see that regardless of the yes/no thing - our village are putting something on to bring the village together.
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And you are inside watching from afar.... :(


Only kidding.
 
Kevin Maguire of the Daily Mirror tweeting that a senior figure in the No campaign is forecasting a 58-42 win for No. The Yes campaign has gone quiet.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if a few polling stations extended their close though in the case of there still being massive queues.
 
Polling stations have said that if you're in waiting in line by 10pm you'll still get the chance to vote.
 
Murray getting branded as "irresponsible" and "extremely ill-advised" :wenger: Beckham, Geldof etc have come out and backed a No vote and there's no outrage and they're not even Scottish :lol:

feck this shit.
 
Wolfboy said:
I guess the one positive we could take down here from Scotland leaving the Union is that one of the potential new flag designs is a Union Jack in Man United colours:

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swaping the blue of the flag of St Andrew for the black of the flag of St David.

Looks pretty smart too.
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I like that...
 
Pink Moon said:
Murray getting branded as "irresponsible" and "extremely ill-advised" :wenger: Beckham, Geldof etc have come out and backed a No vote and there's no outrage and they're not even Scottish :lol:

feck this shit.
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:lol: Beckham, I just read some of his comments and his opinion seems mostly based on the Olympics :lol:
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BBC website says 6:30-7:30 but I don't think you can really tell yet.
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Thanks. Might try and get up early to see it go down live.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Polling stations have said that if you're in waiting in line by 10pm you'll still get the chance to vote.
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Yep, the voting authorities announced a couple of weeks ago that any one in a queue at 10pm will be allowed to vote, but anyone wishing to join after this point will be sent away.
 
Other than sites like the BBC, where online can we best follow this. Updates and projections and such. I can't see CNN doing updates and I am not sure about the CBC here in Canada.
 
saivet said:
:lol: Beckham, I just read some of his comments and his opinion seems mostly based on the Olympics :lol:
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Of course they are, most of his opinions these days are based on the Olympics because that was the night he got to ride on a speed boat. He has very fond memories of it.
 
Has Beckham ever been to Scotland? I can't think of a match we played against a Scottish team when he was here, but England did play Scotland when Scholes scored twice.

Has he been to Scotland except to play them for England?
 
Count Orduck said:
I really don't think the impact on the economy will be as big as people think. Once YES has been confirmed, some very clever people with very good ideas will have two years to sort everything out. Even if some of them were against independence to begin with -- and might still believe that NO would have been the better choice in a vacuum -- once it's accepted that YES is happening no matter what, things will get sorted to the best they can be.

Ignoring Scotland's finances for a moment (because enough has been said on that), I think the UK might find itself better off. Yes, they'd lose the immediate access to the oil tax revenue, but it also means they have a smaller pool of people to whom they have to distribute public finances. Sure, the finances themselves will be lower, but smaller machines run more efficiently.

I'd be genuinely happy if all the countries in the current United Kingdom just broke off from one another and went it alone, except for NI which would probably rejoin with the Republic. Especially if they all remained in the EU and so kept their open borders and free trade anyway.
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Nobody knows how big it will be, and the oil revenue for the UK as a whole isn't that significant, the city of london powers the UK economy.
 
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