Said no one ever. Really what is actually wrong with you ? Atleast use reasonable analogies instead of talking out of the arse.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Said no one ever. Really what is actually wrong with you ? Atleast use reasonable analogies instead of talking out of the arse.
Explain the bits in between.
He wasn't consistently great and in some cases was completely useless in several games last year. Not surprising, he's 18 and he's learning his trade but the bad performances outweighed the good even last year.
Since when did young players have to be the finished article. For goodness sake, there is such a thing as potential and development. Some players shows signs of enormous potential and depending on their development they go on to fulfil that potential or they don't. The argument to be had, in my view, is not whether he has shown enormous potential (obvious to many) but how to nurture and develop it.
There are many exciting young players in modern football, but when one comes through the ranks at your own club, then there is going to be excitement and some hyperbole. Deal with it!
Just read that last line and go dip your head in the toilet.
That is positively bullshit, and there is not a manager on the planet that would agree with you. Not one.
Go troll somewhere else.
Calm down.
africanspur is still here, just doesn't post as much. Eriksen got banned.
In October he was player of the month which is when he really started his season. November there weren't many games, probably around 3 total due to internationals and he only played like 2 of them. December was very hit or miss for him because of minutes. January was player of the month. From February to April he was average. He played very little in that time. May he won player of the month due to his Hull performance.
Maybe Van Gaal would agree with him? I would also agree with him to be honest. Completely over hyped player, even if he is a very good player with a lot of potential. Was very very hot and cold last season, and has been downright poor this season when he has had his few chances.
Love how people think someone is trolling just because they disagree with their opinion on a player.
such a nonsensical post.I have no idea how good januzaj will end up being and if he will fulfill his potential, but the talent he showed last season was immense. And for a 19 year he was pretty fecking brilliant. He's going through a slump but comparing januzaj of last season to stoke players, townsend is just
Rvp called him one of the two best young players hes played with. What he makes of his talwnt is up to him, but the potential is giant.
I knew you'd say this. Ridiculous. Massive difference between not thinking he's brilliant and saying Routledge Zaha and Schlupp are better you utter loon.
The lads a proper talent, that is clear to see. I'd sooner he peak here and 25-27, than burn out at 22. Lets give the talented youngsters time and we'll have a home grown crop of talents and save 60m or 70m in transfer fees to boot.
describing an 18 year old (at the time) as having had a season more bad than good, who happens to be lauded as one of the very best teenagers on the planet, a player named player of the month for his own team three months in that allegedly terrible season and would be snapped up by any club (NOT into a starting 11, but into a team) is trolling.
You just go too far. I also think he was over hyped last season, but to say he couldn't get game time at Leicster ahead of Schlupp is just crazy. This happens to be the same Schlupp trailing for our reserves last season.... yeah ok Also he would probably get game time ahead of some of those players you mentioned.
He won't get chances in the current system, he's up against Mata, Rooney, AdM etc for #10, he isn't a wing-back. You can't judge him on this season. Last season he was one of very few highlights for this team.
If we won't change the system then he should go out on loan to prove (or disprove) his talent.
If we won't change the system then he should go out on loan to prove (or disprove) his talent.
I don't think it's trolling to be honest. I just think it's a different opinion than you have, that doesn't make it trolling. I happen to agree. As was mentioned by someone else, he got the May one, mainly on the back of 1 performance that month. He's a good player, but he was wildly inconsistent - which is to be expected at his age. Saying so, is not trolling.
Januzaj's last season was one of the best anyone has had at his age. Other players were quite terrible, but Adnan tends to be a bit underrated here.
He's been quite awful this season, but given his age, some people should give more notion and recognition to his performances last season. He did bigger things at the age of 18 than those mediocre Swansea and Palace players mentioned earlier will ever do. Januzaj is inconsistent, might have lost some of his confidence, but what I refuse to believe is that he wouldn't do more of those things in the future.
He's been quite awful this season, but given his age, some people should give more notion and recognition to his performances last season. He did bigger things at the age of 18 than those mediocre Swansea and Palace players mentioned earlier will ever do. Januzaj is inconsistent, might have lost some of his confidence, but what I refuse to believe is that he wouldn't do more of those things in the future.
It's not trolling, just a completely laughable opinion, which is probably worse than trolling.
It's too dangerous out there. We need to wrap him up in a protective bubble and keep him from the clutches of evil.
It's an interesting one about teenage stars and their development. More flops than successes.
Teenagers and the goals and assists the managed.
Great careers
Aguero 27, Raul 21, Messi 16, Rooney 16, Torres 16, Eto'o 11
Decent careers
Lukaku 24, Owen 18, Anelka 17, Sterling 16, Balotelli 15, Icardi 14, Rossi 13, Keane 12, Defoe 10
Poor careers
Berardi 25, Pato 21, Bojinov 13, Krkic 11, Lamela 11, Canales 10, Keita 10, Dos Santos 9, Hernandez 9, Lennon 9, Ljajic 9
Littered with players who got 5 to 8 in a season as a teenager and did next to nothing. Collins John, Victor Anichebe, Luke Moore, Matty Phillips, Junior Hoilett, Jordan Henderson, Francis Jeffers, Nathan Redmond, David N'Gog, James Vaughan, Carlton Cole, Victor Moses, Michael Johnson, Gerard Deulofeu and countless others.
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I don't even know where you're getting at with this post.
Stop feeding the troll.
Three player of the month awards for Manchester United in your debut at 18 years of age is pretty fecking special imo. He had a very good season. Everyone in football including non-United supporters were highly impressed by him.
SAF said he was a certainty to make it at United. Van Persie said he was one of the two best young players he'd ever seen. Gazetto Del Sport in Italy named him the best teenager in the world. Mourinho described him as a fantastic player who has everything and plays with the maturity of a 25 year old.
Anyone trying to suggest he didn't have a good season last year is being an idiot.
It was but there is context given how incredibly poor we were. Not trolling but it wasn't as black and white as 3 player of the month awards for a standard United season.
It was a horrendous season where he was the shining ray of light besides Wayne Rooney and David De Gea. Pretty much everybody else regressed a level or 2 at least. Public opinion was/is still split on Rooney and it was a case of picking the flavour of the month for the fans, De Gea or Januzaj.
I'm not getting at Januzaj, or yourself for that. Just pointing out that the context wasn't nearly as black and white as it seemed.
Eh? Henderson has been excellent for us. Not sure how you can judge Sterling's career as being decent either. He has another 15 years left in the game.
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Somebody said they couldn't imagine a player who had a season like Januzaj's as a kid, not producing much more in the future.
I took a few minutes to find the players who'd got those sort of numbers in the past and what happened to them in their careers.
Statistics. Are. Not. Everything.
What the feck is wrong with you?
It's not just goals and assists that make a player's performance stand out. For example, Berardi had a lot more end product than Sterling, but Sterling was the more influential player. Some players have more potential despite similar end product at the same age.
I also don't see why you listed Berardi (a long with many players like Pato who suffered from injuries) as having a poor career despite only being 20 years old. He will most likely play for Juve next season so long as Allegri switches the system to allow for a wide forward/winger to play.
Do you work for Opta @luckyspurs? Genuinely curious what this database of stats is you keep calling on.
You need to stop watching football.
Anyone who thinks goals and assists are the optimum reading to gauge a teenagers potential and ability just has to be either taking the piss or clueless.
We need more stats.
My contention is that Januzaj wasn't that influential. He was nice as a home grown talent to praise; similar to Bentaleb at Spurs, but he didn't actually do anything like what people say he did.
He doesn't create enough, lacks composure infront of goal and in the box and tackles worse than Mata.
He's 19.
I honestly couldn't care less about his tackling stats too.
No more stats; they've had there day and I'm not keeping this fight going. It's just so difficult to argue against a torrent of people who don't watch players like Bolasie, Montero and Mahrez and think Januzaj is way above that level, because he won 3 player of the month awards. Turns you into a rather boring person; quoting stats just to instill some actual analysis and realistic placing of a players strengths and weaknesses, not blind cheerleading and football snobbery.
I only use statistics if it's something I've seen already watching the games. You watch Januzaj dribble and create nothing game after game, and see people going on about last season where he did the same but happened to score 4 goals despite taking a huge amount of shots and getting very few on target.
Judging people on player of the month awards; especially inter club ones, is a hideous way of judging ability. Wigan made Gary Caldwell player of the season; Moyes won 2 manager of the year awards. It's not exactly a surprise that a guy doing most of the dribbling and looking the freshest in a team struggling to score or win, is going to get player of the month awards decided by the fans with tickets.
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Of all teams to pretend to support to get promoted and WUM, why Spurs?
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