Did Robb legitimize Jon in the show like he did in the book? I can't remember. I know in the books it's done but there isn't time to send it out before the wedding.
Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?
- Thread starter Cina
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Did Robb legitimize Jon in the show like he did in the book? I can't remember. I know in the books it's done but there isn't time to send it out before the wedding.
They definitely will go through with it, doesn't make sense to do otherwise. Also, season 4 ended with Melisandre looking at Jon through the burning fire. That's pretty much as clear cut as it's going to get. I don't think there he will die though so there might be no need for a resurrection or if he does die Melisandre won't be the one to do it. I fully expect Bran/Bloodraven to have something to do with if it goes that way.
Nah. Jeyne was pregnant in the show so they skipped it.
While the last episode pretty much made up for what has been a well boring season, I'm now feeling weird about reading any future books. Obvs will read them all (if and when) but it's now a completely different story.
All a bit odd.
All a bit odd.
Am I the only one that doesn't think it's been boring?
I found these sections to be the dullest to read, however, as a show it's been entertaining. We've lost Ser Barristan, Tyrion has met Dany, Cersei and Margery are locked up, The wall has just gone mental, and we're anticipating Snow getting stabbed and the Bolton's vs Stannis is brewing along nicely.
The only slight disappointment is Jamie Lannister's storyline and a lack of Undead Catelyn, but even that has been sprinkled with some decent Bron dialogue.
Wouldn't say that this season has been boring but it's been a step down in quality from the last seasons.
Yeah I don't think it's been boring. The only really shit part has been Dorne and the Sand Snakes, but that were already rubbish in the books, and at least in the show they've managed to keep Bronn involved. You could also argue the Sansa plot hasn't been great. Other than that it's been good and as someone who fully appreciates how slow book 4 and 5 are, I think they've mostly done a good job with their changes to make everything a bit more exciting.
In the other thread it's like they don't even watch the show. Not knowing where Jon got his sword and fecking vanilla 
and Bran being helped by "some guy" at the end of last season? What the feck?In the other thread it's like they don't even watch the show. Not knowing where Jon got his sword and fecking vanilla
It's gonna be full of questions about Brann next season. Nobody paid attention to him (don't blame them, it wasn't very interesting in the show) and he's about to become one of the most important characters soon enough.
It's not been boring but I miss the details of the books especially the politics. Littlefinger zooming around Westeros and manipulating anyone and everyone within sight is a bit ridiculous as is the complete absence of any of the Northern Lords at Winterfell. Also very surprised that we are 8 episodes in and seen practically nothing of Doran. Dorne and Jaime have been two of the biggest let downs from the books.
High Sparrow has been great though and I've liked Arya's scenes as well though not everyone seems to have going by the TV thread. All I want to see now is Cersie's walk of shame
I don't know how anyone could have heard that as Vanilla...
High Sparrow has been great though and I've liked Arya's scenes as well though not everyone seems to have going by the TV thread. All I want to see now is Cersie's walk of shame
In the other thread it's like they don't even watch the show. Not knowing where Jon got his sword and fecking vanilla
I don't know how anyone could have heard that as Vanilla...
I'm surprised there has been zero Brann this season, it seems like they've cut Rickon altogether so that's not a shocker, but I expected even just a still of him or something.
Do they not refer to Valyrian swords as dragon steel in the show, I thought they had, when he was dicking about for dragon glass, I was shouting "you've DRAGON STEEL, in your god damned right hand you prick"
Still, he made up for it with that wicked fatality.
Do they not refer to Valyrian swords as dragon steel in the show, I thought they had, when he was dicking about for dragon glass, I was shouting "you've DRAGON STEEL, in your god damned right hand you prick"
Still, he made up for it with that wicked fatality.
It's a brilliantly entertaining thread, if only for the utter cringe factor of what half of them say. Struggling to stop smiling so my boss doesn't catch me faffing round on here.
Likewise, but the sheer number of them that heard vanilla is hilarious
In fairness (from memory) Rickon disappeared from the books too, once he went off with Osha and his Wolf.
I had to watch/hear it one more time and i did hear "vinilla" but it was obvious that he meant vinegear. No need to make a new "white/gold or black/blue" thing out of it
In the other thread I don't think they have quite grasped the link between the white walkers and the coming winter. They can't quite figure out why they have not attacked the wall yet. The whities need the winter and a long winter at that.
This thread is weird and snooty
I heard vanilla, I knew it made no sense.
The super fat lord briefly mention he fecked off to an island somewhere, but I think he was bullshitting and he has him.
The super fat lord briefly mention he fecked off to an island somewhere, but I think he was bullshitting and he has him.
I think maybe a small number of people heard vanilla, then when it became a "thing" to laugh about everyone else jumped in.
The row faster thing is annoying also. Ummm, they are basically a bit stunned at watching the White Walker army first smash the remainder of the wildlings, but then more importantly watching the King turn all the dead into zombies. They knew it happened, but to see it happen was sort of stunning to the folks in the boat.
One things the show has sort of missed I think is providing an understanding of the history of the wall and the white walkers. In the books we understand the walkers have attacked before and even that the wall was not built to hold out the wildlings but as a defense against the walkers and their armies. Granted this is lost on many of the characters since it has been ages since the walkers have been seen.
The books also mention the possibility that the wall is more than just ice and rock. That strong and ancient magic has been used to help build it and be part of its barrier against the real enemy in the north.
This really has not come across as well in the show.
The row faster thing is annoying also. Ummm, they are basically a bit stunned at watching the White Walker army first smash the remainder of the wildlings, but then more importantly watching the King turn all the dead into zombies. They knew it happened, but to see it happen was sort of stunning to the folks in the boat.
One things the show has sort of missed I think is providing an understanding of the history of the wall and the white walkers. In the books we understand the walkers have attacked before and even that the wall was not built to hold out the wildlings but as a defense against the walkers and their armies. Granted this is lost on many of the characters since it has been ages since the walkers have been seen.
The books also mention the possibility that the wall is more than just ice and rock. That strong and ancient magic has been used to help build it and be part of its barrier against the real enemy in the north.
This really has not come across as well in the show.
Last edited:
Was it intentional that one of the elders looked like Tormund's father?
Now I’m just imagining Tormund’s dad watching him smash Rattleshirt’s head in with a tear in his eyes, as he says, “Aw, look at them, they grow up so fast!”
Queen Marjorie and Ser Loren agree.
Pretty great episode.
Friend I work with was doing extras work as a wildling, so got to play wheres wally for the last 20 mins.
Honestly thought Jon was dead, was nice not to know what was coming and thought the scene was brilliant and well worth the excursion.
Going to be funny if / when a short arse 4ft child kills him.
Cersei's scene with the horrible nun was good too. I hate her guts even if cersei needed a kick in the arse.
Friend I work with was doing extras work as a wildling, so got to play wheres wally for the last 20 mins.
Honestly thought Jon was dead, was nice not to know what was coming and thought the scene was brilliant and well worth the excursion.
Going to be funny if / when a short arse 4ft child kills him.
Cersei's scene with the horrible nun was good too. I hate her guts even if cersei needed a kick in the arse.
as a matter of interest, where was the scene filmed? Iceland?
Northern Ireland, their standard location for scenes at or behind the Wall.
they've definitely filmed a lot of wall scenes in Iceland, I mean, there's no snow in Northern Ireland.
Hmm, good point. I was basing myself on this article (which is a good read btw). It says Northern Ireland is used as Westeros' northern locations for a reason, but might be they filmed a lot in Iceland as well yeah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magheramorne - they probably film the Wall scenes in the winter, so there's snow.
From what I know they film mainly landscape shots in Iceland. I read Hardhome was supposed to be there, as well, in November, but after all the rewrites the scene got too long and they moved it to NI because there wasn't enough daylight in Iceland in December.
EDIT: Jon's journey with the Free Folk in whatever season it was, when he was with Ygritte, was also filmed in Iceland. So, basically, the northernmost locations are there. The Wall, Castle Black, Hardhome and the Haunted Forest were all in NI.
From what I know they film mainly landscape shots in Iceland. I read Hardhome was supposed to be there, as well, in November, but after all the rewrites the scene got too long and they moved it to NI because there wasn't enough daylight in Iceland in December.
EDIT: Jon's journey with the Free Folk in whatever season it was, when he was with Ygritte, was also filmed in Iceland. So, basically, the northernmost locations are there. The Wall, Castle Black, Hardhome and the Haunted Forest were all in NI.
Last edited:
The Northern scenes filmed in NI are Winterfall etc. Daaenerys scenes are filmed in Morocco, I think, and the wall alternates between NI and Iceland. I think Castle Black and such is in NI but a lot of scenes they've filmed beyond the wall are Iceland.
Loren
Wonder what they will do about killing Jon Snow? For a while I've thought he would warg into Ghost but they haven't mentioned warging at all this season. Are they actually going to kill Jon Snow off despite hinting at his parentage and Azor Ahai?
Will they have Danaerys fly away with Drogon into obscurity an episode after she met Tyrion and added him to her counsel?
It's not certain he's dead in the books... When a fan asked Martin why he killed Jon, he answered something like "Oh, you think he's dead, do you?", personally I don't think he's going to die because he's our only source of information in the North and is one of the characters who'll play a huge part in the final books, imo.
I think they'll just skip his stabbing or let Olly stab him but not a deadly one. If Melisandre resurrects him in the books, they'll probably skip it in the show because they haven't mentioned anything of the Azor Ahai stuff or magic stuff overall.
Very much doubt it given that the Dothraki don't exist in the show anymore. She'll probably fly away and return back to Meereen in episode 1 of next season.
kill off one of their biggest stars? - its not impossible but I think its unlikely
So all Melisandre's talk about Stannis being the chosen one etc has completely passed you by? Oh, and Berric Dondarrion says hi.
They might well skip it though, unless Melisandre gets sent back to the wall after Ramsey's attack next episode?
They film here every year. They were supposed to do that Hardhome scene here but because there's very limited daylight they build the set in N-Ireland.
It'd be a hell of a cliffhanger way to end the season though, her sodding off and landing in a field as a Dothraki horde approaches. God knows what they'd do with Tyrion then though so it seems unlikely.
I find it interesting now that we're approaching a point where us book readers are going in as blind as the heathens, I'm excited to finally see what happens moving forward (and eventually [maybe] how it differs from the books).
What do you mean? I think Melisandre genuinely believes that Stannis is the chosen one but I don't buy it (see Lightbringer stuff and many other examples I guess). Dondarrion came back from death six times but how many of that stuff got mentioned in the show? Almost none iirc (correct me if I'm wrong though).
There were some teasers in which you could see Melisandre, Shireen and Selyse return to Castle Black though, so I don't really know.
Nah northern ireland. You can see the snow was added afterwards. I wouldve thought it was iceland too