Play him our CL match and have him cup tied then see if Madrid want him.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Bit harsh, he is honouring his contract. He has no obligation to renew. United should have taken precaution at the 2 year stage. Still think the Pedro and Ronaldo way is the way forward. Get the player to sign with an agreement - that if a certain price is matched by another club they can go at that price. They get the benefit of having more money, guarantee of a contract and United get a consistent squad that they can plan with. If they don't sign, then actively sell or take the hit - and don't complain.
Stick him up front until the transfer window's closed.
Telegraph now saying we are expecting him to stay, and this is by a country mile is the best outcome if it happens, not only will we have a top keeper still, we will also not sign Cillessen, and hopefully will have differnt keeper targets next summer if DDG hasn't signed a new deal by then.
You cant send your best player to the reserves.
Maybe LVG and Valdes will kiss and make up too.
Hope this means he's back in the team for Villa, Romero looks dodge to me
I thought he did well against Spurs. A bit shaky to being with but his confidence grew. Might be a keeper.
I get the feeling there's been a U-turn in this saga. He'll eventually end up at Madrid, but he'll sign a new contract and give is one more good season.
Schmeichel doesn't half talk some nonsense about if he wants to go let him, and let Man Utd move on, whist ignoring the fact that RM simply haven't bid enough for him.
£20 million is an insult and RM know that, seems fairly clear to me that they just don't want him enough.
£20 million is an insult and RM know that, seems fairly clear to me that they just don't want him enough.
Best case would be he signs a new contract, with a low buyout clause for Madrid and leaves next season. Worst case is we lose him now for the 15-20M touted and what I expect to happen is he stays this season and goes for free next season which leaves us at £0 or £-25M depending on which way you swing.
You probably can.
IIRC, Courtuis didn't want to extend and return at Chelsea, until Mourinho promised him that he'll spend the next two years in the bench. He extended, and one year later he is the second best keeper in the league.
It's not such a sure thing - De Gea may blame United for the move not going through and we may suffer from poor performances from him during the season. The club have already said he showed a lack of motivation in the build-up to Spurs
I struggle to see how he can blame us? We set a price and it's up to the buying club to pay it.
That's how it works for us, if we don't want to pay the price we don't get the player, Otamendi springs to mind, he has no right to be angry with Valencia for not budging on their price and neither does DDG, if he can't handle it he sits in the stands for a season and watches his immediate career go up in smoke.
an insult, I think that United is upset because paid too much for Di María and wants to pay Madrid with its own medicine.I am starting to think that you are right and he will stay...Everyone perceives things differently.
He might think the club were unreasonable or felt there was an understanding between himself and management that he would leave for Real at some point. 'It's just business' doesn't always cut it with players.
Otamendi signed a release clause, something that allow the player to leave if he wishes. Imagine that Athletic had asked 60m€ for Herrera, the player would be caught in Bilbao without any chance to leave. It´s a contract, not a blood covenant, however what can do a player in UK without release clause? I think that according to the prices in market will be more and more common to provoke a transfer for refusing to renew
Edurne is a magical creature,during her visits to UK,i wish she ends up in one of those fake taxis running around London and take that free ride option.
How could that be the case though, we bought DDG nurtured him, and stuck by him when he was dodgy, thus giving him the platform to become one of the best keepers out there, and how does he repay us? He runs his contract down so he can go 'home'.
Are we just supposed to pat him on the back and say go on then Dave we understand, we'll let you have everything on your terms, yes Dave we'll make your transfer to your dream club as pain free as possible for you, and just take whatever they want to pay.
No we don't, as far as i'm concerned DDG has shafted us, and Madrid are trying to shaft us, and I don't like it at all.
I almost spat out my coffee at this comment.The imagery of Woodward sat at his desk, shaking, panicking, whaling, with his finger hovering over the 'accept' button. And then van Gaal with his arms round him, proping him up, telling him to stay strong.
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Same guy who brought the two bigges commercial deals in the history of the football, and who apparently was the brain behind the biggest purchase in the history of football panicking and shaking under pressure
Over a relative pittance.Same guy who brought the two bigges commercial deals in the history of the football, and who apparently was the brain behind the biggest purchase in the history of football panicking and shaking under pressure
Glad you're finally seeing sense that United mean it.
£20 million is an insult all day long, you can laugh all you want but it doesn't change this fact, it's sad that RM don't see keepers as that important, if did then maybe you would value this guy properly, if you had him he could truly be the difference between winning La Liga or losing it to Barca again, as he was for us finishing 4 th over 5 th last season.
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I say keep him for a year. If he helps us get a CL place next season then he will have paid his transfer fee.
The point I'm making is if Valencia deem a player like Otamendi worthy of 50 million euros me stick by it then that's fair enough no one can complain, if United deem DDG worthy of a price of £35 million and stick by it then we have every right to do so without the player, or bidding club feeling hard done by.
No doubt He is a great goalkeeper , but a great goalkeeper who will be free in a year. The amount you want is paid for players with long contracts . I don´t think Navas is worse than Stergen or Bravo besides Madrid has bigger problems to solve to end the hegemony of Barcelona
Yeah let him go to Real Madrid for nothing because that's what he wants. Schmeical can kiss my ass.
That´s right but I think that is not fair a system with unbreakable contracts. Anyway United is keeping its stance. I thought that It would be "bending the knee" (I don´t know how is in english) at this point.
You getting him for free rest on the fact that everything stays as it is, ie DDG stays with his woman, Mendes doesn't want to piss United off too much so gets him to signs a new short deal with a 'fair' release clause, Navas isn't a world class keeper thus putting real Madird off the deal, and if not then DDG off wanting to compete with an established top class Real Madrid keeper. etc.
Yes the likely scenario is that he goes on a free, but you just never know what could happen, anyway fact remains if he gets his head straight he could be the difference between us winning the Prem or finishing 2/3 rd, and if he is then we have played a blinder.
But only for players who Madrid want though
Cheer up you'll be getting one of the worlds best keepers for free next year.
Agree.
But Madrid isn't as strong as Barca in other departments, and so needs every weapon it can have in order to beat Barca. Getting a keeper superior to what it has (and what Barca have) would be a right step.
Seriously, is there a department (realistically speaking) that Madrid can improve more than the goalkeeper. If no, then why not spend big money there instead of getting players which will improve the team less than De Gea?
'Bending the knee', in Engish that would be something like Throwing in the towel.
Teams giving RM exactly what they want is what you're used to, so this thought is entirely understandable, personally I never thought we'd just give in and take a low price, if we were to do that it would have happened in May/June
We have crazy amount of money and I'm not sure we have a single player other than De Gea who would get into Barca, Bayern's or Madrid's XI. A year of De Gea is the best option, especially when you consider the potential financial costs of missing out on the CL next year without him , that even slight improvements in results helps us in the market to get great players and that there is no obvious keeper to buy right now but in a year, some keeper may emerge or consolidate their value with a fine season.
I don't know why people make it sounds as if De Gea was this keeper that no one knew had the talent except for Man United and a few believers. He was the hottest young keeper on the planet. When he as having that horrible season, almost every expert and sensible poster on here said that he'd come good because he had immense talent. Everyone kinda knew he'd succeed sooner or later (apart from some terrible experts/fans).
I'm just saying, we didn't really go out of our way to accommodate him. If anything, SAF would start Lindegaard ahead of him in some games (even thought the boss and all of use knew he's the more talented one)
That is ridiculously illogical. Either sell a player or play him and lose him on a free. The club is a business- it will not forego millions of pounds simply out of spite, nor should it do so.
You're probably right. I think the other day you named the signing of Danilo . Strange to pay so much for him and then be so stingy with De Gea . I guess it's some kind of power struggle between clubs, a hard stance for involving Ramos or perhaps . De Gea certainly would be helpful to feel less the difference between the MSN and the BBC
If it stays this way, I'm happy with the outcome. We retain our best player (for two years running) for another year, hopefully getting us a proper shot at the title. That's worth much more than 20mil. De Gea gets his dream move next year, means he might be able to bargain for better wages too. Real didn't want to pay over the odds, so they'll wait another year and sign him for free.
The one with egg on the face is Mendes. Probably mis-advised his client and pissed off the missus, so I hope he loses at least half his cut. He'll just have to live with making an obscene amount of money, rather than an even more obscene amount of money. Take that, Jorge!
The one with egg on the face is Mendes. Probably mis-advised his client and pissed off the missus, so I hope he loses at least half his cut. He'll just have to live with making an obscene amount of money, rather than an even more obscene amount of money. Take that, Jorge!
I'm not sure about that. If Madrid get him on a free, de Gea and Mendes would probably be able to negotiate a higher signing-on bonus and agent bonus.
It would definitely be a very successful thread, who do you mean with fanboys darlings? Cristiano, James, Isco, Kroos, etc? .What players we got thanks to the historical heritage and were used as workhorse? I guess that you mean Di María? who else?.Ozil case was totally different. Only 50m euros on average? I would like that you were right but I think that the club spent much more.Di María was an exception because in the past they sold very bad. They were not dump like shit. Di María had 3 good seasons and a final season playing in a extraordinary level. The club paid 30 and got 75 in return, a player that was demanding more money every 6 months, and of course they have to sell, we don´t have a sheikh to buy whatever we want, actually the board is responsible of the losses.Other players are sold because they are not good enough for the requirements. Probably Benzema or Cristiano could stay in the club until they are 35, but eventually the club will realize that we have seen the best of them and will be sold, I don´t know where is the problem.
I can't believe that the media has somehow got people thinking that this move is for his girlfriend and not footballing terms.
Sure, she probably plays a small factor. But it would be naive to suggest that him dumping her over the next few months would change anything with regards to his inevitable destination next season. It is, first and foremost, a move based on footballing reasons.
Sure, she probably plays a small factor. But it would be naive to suggest that him dumping her over the next few months would change anything with regards to his inevitable destination next season. It is, first and foremost, a move based on footballing reasons.
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