Let's be realistic here, whether it's Madrid or any other club, no one is going to over pay for a goalkeeper with 10 months to go on his contract and had an obvious bust up with his manager. The only issue i have with this whole situation is LVG playing into the player and his agent' s hands by dropping him. He gets to sit in the stands while LVG looks like the bad guy for freezing him out. I don't think De Gea's agent could have wished for anything better than that.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I think the problem most people have is that we knew all this a month ago, yet we've only brought in Romero in that time, and we're now left with rushing to get Navas (who doesn't appear that interested) or someone else in before the deadline. Meanwhile, we're two or perhaps three points down on where we might be if we'd sorted this much earlier.
That's why LVG spun it saying De Gea didn't want to play, which was probably bullshit.
You do realise this will be the highest fee paid for a goal keeper in this league and also probably in the top 3 for a goal keeper all time. It is not the bad fee people are making it out to be. Madrid had no rush to push the deal in the summer until now, so why would they 'cave in' and offer us such a high (in GK terms) fee a month or 2 ago?
Incredibly poor piece of business if we end up selling him on the last day and be left with Romero and Johnstone or take Navas as Real outcast.
Whole summer we couldn't identify a proper #1 to replace De Gea..
Whole summer we couldn't identify a proper #1 to replace De Gea..
We are getting relative peanuts and that too at a time when we are going to get in a GK who might well be new to the league and is not accustomed to our players. We have no one else to blame but ourselves. If we were clear that we have to sell him no matter what the price, then we should have made it happen sooner and since that did not happen we should have kept him this season.
Buying a 19 year old unknown quantity from Ligue 1 for 60 million euros while selling our best player for the last two years and arguably the best GK in the world for half that on the last day of the windows is absolutely pathetic planning.
For distracted read enraged then.What?
A sale makes sense but we do have some level of control over how we go about it. A quick sale with a relatively low fee that gave us time to bring in a replacement early would've made sense, as would taking a very hardline stance and refusing to sell unless we get a big fee. This seems to be the worst of both worlds.
Seriously pissed off if true. We played the pissing contest for the entire summer and now giving up with 7 hours left, and for a price that is way below what we were asking.
I fecking hate Madrid, fecking parasite club.. £20million for the worlds best keeper (if not now then in a year or two) who still has 10 years at least left in him. I dunno why for some reason I thought the prick would change his mind and stay, I'm not one for lashing out at players but feck De Gea, he didn't even have the decency to sign a new contract like Ronaldo did so we could get the real value for him. I hope he gets the same treatment as Bale from the worst fans in the world.
Not like he'll be winning anything any time soon, Barcelona are gonna keep dominating Spain and with him between the posts it'll make it all the sweeter when they get battered time and time again by Barca.
Not like he'll be winning anything any time soon, Barcelona are gonna keep dominating Spain and with him between the posts it'll make it all the sweeter when they get battered time and time again by Barca.
I won't believe it until I see it on the BBC Sport pages. I detest the BBC, but they don't tend to make transfer stories up.
I put Marca's journalism on the same level of the Daily Star for accuracy.
I put Marca's journalism on the same level of the Daily Star for accuracy.
It fecking doesn't matter what they pay at this time point. We should have put a deadline on this atleast two weeks before, not now. How is the money going to be of use to us this late in the window and EVEN IF Navas comes in, we are looking at weeks for him to settle into the team.
Christ on a fecking bike. If it's true, we're absolute clowns.
Worth remembering that Van Gaal specifically alluded to us having to pay big fees while receiving small ones in return. The DDG and Martial deals seem to be continuing that pattern, which ain't great.
Why would you hate them? They are doing it right, that's the difference to us. They get their players no matter what. We are again getting spanked by them and tbh that's quite admirable rather than sth to hate them for. It's our own club I can't take serious in those situation. How we could let it come this far with DDG's contract is beyond me.
I'm leaving my vote as 'Yes' and leaving this thread until the window closes. As long as I don't know, it never happened.
So let me understand this. They pay a bit more for De Gea and Navas is a separate deal to all that? So we have to pay a fee for Navas? Why isn't it the fee + Navas??
Agreed with this. Why hating on them when they did a proper business and got their man on the cheap. It's our backyard that needs fixing and the way we conduct business.
Some of our transfer business this Summer were nothing short of appalling. Even Real signed another keeper before getting their man.
If we don't end up with Lloris or Navas and a bit of cash left over sack Woodward.
Selling De Gea for £20m at the end of the window and not getting in a top quality replacement is completely unforgivable. Even if we sign Muller, Neymar and Bale tomorrow.
Selling De Gea for £20m at the end of the window and not getting in a top quality replacement is completely unforgivable. Even if we sign Muller, Neymar and Bale tomorrow.
Navas isn't a Real outcast because of his quality, he's an outcast because he isn't Spanish. Regardless of how good he is or how well he plays, he's always going to play second fiddle if there's a half-decent Spanish goalkeeper around. He may not want to leave Real, but he'd be stupid to stick around if they get DDG.
As for us dropping our valuation, if half the rumours are true this is only the second bid that Real have made for DDG. By leaving it so late they're forcing our hand and forcing us to make a choice. It's not as straightforward as simply holding on to him to spite Real. If we keep him and he can't get his head straight, we'll have lost £20m, he'll have lost a year (at least) from his career and Real will get him for free next summer. Only one winner there and it isn't us. If we let him go, we at least get some money for him, he'll probably be first choice for his country in the Euros and Real get their great new Spanish figurehead goalkeeper. The only potential win we get is if he stays, plays a blinder and somehow decides that we're right for him after all (i.e. Edurne leaves him). The chances of that are exceedingly unlikely. As much as I want him to continue as our goalkeeper, there's not much we can do. We're in a poor position and to be frank, I'll be happy when this saga is finally over.
I don't have much time for them either, but in the end they have played this pretty well. They were always going to get him this year or next.
putting him in the stands for a month played completely in Madrids hands. Upset the dressing room, isolated him and weakened any bargaining power. If he was playing well a high price would have been justified, we got exactly what we asked for in this
Be interesting to see what happens if De Gea has a shit start. Can imagine the Madridistas chanting for Navas then
Yep, that's the thing. What a strange mentality they have over there...
So poorly played from our side.
I know many have laughed at me for suggesting this, but i really feel LVG has been pushing DDG out of this club.
I know many have laughed at me for suggesting this, but i really feel LVG has been pushing DDG out of this club.
Nah. If reports are true then this is farcical. I say this as somebody that hasn't moaned about transfers once this summer.
Worse than Madrid has been Dave's behaviour. Don't worry, he'll have fun when the white hankies come out.
yet, by some reports he doesn't want to leave. He's also 6 foot tall, would come to a league where height do matters.
20m is nothing compared to the situation we left ourselves in. If we were going to let him go, then get a proper replacement and let him go at some price. The difference now is that what we will gain from the transfer more likely we will either overpay to get a replacement on the last day or end up playing that horror show Romero whole season as we're selling Valdes and Lindgaard.
So no if we sell him today we're in much worse situation than having him here for a season and next year leaving for free as he's way ahead compared to our current options.
That may be so, but you have to consider that the situation with Dave not signing an extension was happening before LVG.
Cannot believe we are selling him on the LAST FECKING DAY of the window for less than our asking price without having brought in someone to replace him 
Are we supposed to challenge for the title with Romero in goal? LvG must have lost his damn mind.
Are we supposed to challenge for the title with Romero in goal? LvG must have lost his damn mind.
Now let's get Bale!
Not sure how you lot thought this would end.......
We're getting Bale in return.
The sum we are getting is reflective of DDG's book value to us at this moment in time. Unfortunately for us, the value is linked to the protected length of his contract which is less than five months. I genuinely believe the club tried to hold on to DDG in the hope that he might have a change of mind or at the very least get Real to up their offer from its derisory figure earlier on. No, I don't the club erred on this one. By openly been keen to doing business would have underlined our desperation and handed all calling cards to Real. We had to make the best of an impossible situation and that meant tough rhetoric, although deep down it was all just a bluff.
What would the club have possibly gained by keeping DDG this season only to lose him for nothing in the summer, especially when he is apparently on a mini-strike/not the right frame of mind to play? Nothing. We would have just paid his wage, further adding to our costs with little to show for it.
DDG hasn't covered himself in glory in this one. The gentlemanly thing to do would have been to negotiate a get out clause, sign the damn extension, and concentrate on seeing out the season. But he didn't. Really, there was little else the club could have done rationally, other than try to get the least worst fee possible for him.
See my post above. The club clearly saw other areas as higher priorities than GK. Besides, one is left to contend that an earlier purchase of a GK might have signaled our willingness to part ways with DDG further strengthening the buying club's hand. Our major bone of contention has long been the time left on DDG's current contract, or rather the failure to arrive to a settlement with the player that would have seen both him and United get the best possible deal from Real. n other words, DDG has forced our hands.
Moreover, how many quality GK's were there in the market this summer? Cech? Didn't the club make a play for him only for him to indicate his preference for London? Begovic? perhaps, I would give you that one athough I feel like the technical staff at the club may have thought we already had comparable cover.
What a fecking mess. Unless we have somebody lined up that can come straight away, this is the worst thing we could have done, selling him in the last hours of the transfer window.
Looks liek now we're gonna be stuck with Romero or with Keylor fecking Navas, Real madrid reject.
Looks liek now we're gonna be stuck with Romero or with Keylor fecking Navas, Real madrid reject.
Oh, I suppose most of just had the crazy notion that if we sell him, we should get a decent replacement.
The window isn't closed yet, but it appears we will be left with Romero in goal.
I'm not sure Navas would be the wisest choice to be honest, Di Maria is still fresh in the memory so i don't want to chance it with Navas being unmotivated and wishing he was else where.
LVG forced the sale after refusing to play DDG, you either sell him or play him, no good would ever come from refusing sell him and then not playing him.
If LVG wasn't going to play him then whatever price Real pay is irrelevant because they are bidding for a player who sits in the stands, which makes him worth nothing to the club. Prime example of LVG being LVG.
LVG forced the sale after refusing to play DDG, you either sell him or play him, no good would ever come from refusing sell him and then not playing him.
If LVG wasn't going to play him then whatever price Real pay is irrelevant because they are bidding for a player who sits in the stands, which makes him worth nothing to the club. Prime example of LVG being LVG.
At a guess... The De Gea deal needs to be done today because the Spanish window shuts tonight. Navas can wait until tomorrow if needs be.
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