What's been wrong with his behaviour? He didn't ask for a transfer. He didn't run a media campaign. Truth be told, I'm sceptical about the claim that he wasn't played because he was "distracted". I think Van Gaal was just punishing him.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Who the feck runs this club? I miss Fergie.
Don't care about Pedro deal, or Martial - or any other deals on how they played out. But, if this is really happening on the last day then am truly annoyed to no end. To give in for any price now just tells the world, United don't have the balls to hold players to their contracts. There should have been a deadline on this or at least pay ridiculously stupid money to get him at the last minute. Not some nothing amount in the grand scheme of things.
As for the player, I am going to be childish - sincerely do hope him nothing but, problems. Tires slashed, cat calls and Barca taking title after title and making look like a chump in the Classicos.
As for the player, I am going to be childish - sincerely do hope him nothing but, problems. Tires slashed, cat calls and Barca taking title after title and making look like a chump in the Classicos.
This "saga" was always going to be about damage limitation for us. DDG had us by the short and curlies by refusing to sign an extension or at the very least negotiate a get-out-clause with the club that would have protected his book value. Like I have said it before clearly the club may have prioritized recruitment differently this summer, in that GK may not have been seen as one.
So you are saying that DDG would not have played to the best of his ability if we did play him? I don't think that would have been the case with Euros next year. Also, this is not the first time a club would have held on to their star performer. Look at BVB and Lewandowski. They got him to stay and he helped them reach the final of a CL. That is what we might have got out of keeping DDG. But instead we thought it is better to get 30 million euros despite all the rhetoric we sported earlier.
Point is we are now in a situation where we will have a new GK in the team who will most probably not from our league and would need time to get accustomed to the demands of the PL and get used to the players as well. All this while the season is under way. This is absolutely shoddy from the club.
Are we buggery. We're getting nobody. Been saying it for ages that De Gea should have gone at the end of last season and a replacement brought in. Now we're stuck with Romero whilst the cnuts at Real laugh up their sleeves at us. Making De Gea sit in the stands only made matters worse. I tell you, since the Wizard retired, we've degenerated into a bleedin' farce. Should have hired Brian Rix instead of Van Gaal. He's still only 91 and we'd get a season or two out of him.
I laugh at people thinking navas is some shite keeper, there is every chance navas might be as good if not better than de gea. you just need to watch navas last game for madrid to see how good he is.
The only reason madrid are going after de gea is a prestige issue, they want a spanish keeper and will get their man. if we get navas + 30 million euros, it would be a fantastic deal.
If he wants to go let him go but do get navas in return and that will soften the blow alot. Navas is being treated like a shite keeper by madrid and he will be an asset to our team. A huge improvement on romero and if he works out we wont even miss de gea.
De gea is just a goalkeeper yes he won us many points but every goalkeeper will win you some points, i dont want to play down his achievements and he is a fantastic keeper but he is no ronaldo or beckham or stam. He is more like ruud when he went to real, important yes, irreplaceable no. Support the club and he has treated club badly, ronaldo had the decency if signing a new contract and letting us get a huge fee, de gea has not been the best in that case. HE is also defecting from atletico and will be under immense pressure. He might fail, a part of me wishes he does. I do hope whatever happens we get navas and he becomes best in the world here and happens best for united.
The only reason madrid are going after de gea is a prestige issue, they want a spanish keeper and will get their man. if we get navas + 30 million euros, it would be a fantastic deal.
If he wants to go let him go but do get navas in return and that will soften the blow alot. Navas is being treated like a shite keeper by madrid and he will be an asset to our team. A huge improvement on romero and if he works out we wont even miss de gea.
De gea is just a goalkeeper yes he won us many points but every goalkeeper will win you some points, i dont want to play down his achievements and he is a fantastic keeper but he is no ronaldo or beckham or stam. He is more like ruud when he went to real, important yes, irreplaceable no. Support the club and he has treated club badly, ronaldo had the decency if signing a new contract and letting us get a huge fee, de gea has not been the best in that case. HE is also defecting from atletico and will be under immense pressure. He might fail, a part of me wishes he does. I do hope whatever happens we get navas and he becomes best in the world here and happens best for united.
He also did everything behind the scenes to make sure Madrid got a cut price deal. Not because someone remains silent doesn't mean he/she is not being a bastard.
Very predictable. I really can't stand Real Madrid. All they ever do is throw money at the latest fancy toy or flavour of the month so it was inevitable De Gea would come into this at some point.
That would be very risky to do. Madrid can change their mind and troll us, Navas can prefer to stay in Spain etc etc.
Knowing Ed and LVG, it will probably happen.
I don't understand what he did "behind the scenes".
We've just thrown quote a bit around too.
Remember when people thought we'd get Bale/Ramos/Isco in return?
Good times.
Good times.
The conclusion to this was inevitable. And we let it go down to nearly deadline day. Right now we're a joke.
Do you see a Ronaldo or (a young) Rooney in our line up? Memphis has everything to prove and our striking options are woeful. When we sold RvN, we were in a much better position.
But does the deal include Navas or are we expected to pay for Navas as well? Because that would make me so mad.
I think recent transfer windows also show that United has lot a lot of it's appeal and a bit of status since Sir Alex's departure. In seasons past I could have seen someone like Pedro digging his heels in to try and make sure the only move he got was to United, now now though.
Didn't sign an extension and ensuring United get feck all negotiating powers as the whole world knows
Whats the news? too many pages to read back
You were the only poster who dared to dream such deals
But that was his legal right. The club has messed up here, nobody else.
I don't think we've lost our appeal. Seems clear we weren't convinced about Pedro so we didn't go all out for him. Maybe that's a good or bad decision but we will see in time. Don't forget that Fergie and Gill also lost out on some targets for whatever reasons. It happens.
It's the principle and respect for the club. Even shit players at shitty teams sign an extension to ensure the club they are leaving get a proper compensation. He's one of the few players that has not done so. After all - we bloody made him world class. What is so difficult about that to understand?
Lets not forget his half against PSG where he looked like he was trying to give the game away in the 45 mins he was on, however convenient it is for you.
I was all for keeping him and showing we won't be played in the way we have been by De Gea and Madrid. It made sense as we believed he would be professional enough to not get distracted and maintain his level from last season. Clearly we will now end up with a player who will be sulking and not at 100% so best to take the fee than cut of our nose to spite our face.
It's disapointing a season of De Gea at his best was worth losing the fee and showing Madrid we won't be bullied into selling cheap. That's not the case though and the only person to blame for that is De Gea for letting his standards slip.
I don't see how anyone can now think this has been a good transfer window. It's now a shambles. Strengthen one part of the team, perhaps two with Darmian, and then massively weaken two other areas.
That's not good business or an upward trajectory.
And then we've left all of this to the end of the window and given Real what they wanted in the first place.
That's not good business or an upward trajectory.
And then we've left all of this to the end of the window and given Real what they wanted in the first place.
Yeah, he had nothing to do with that himself of course...
I agree, it would have been nice if he had signed a new contract... but it's not something that everyone does, nor can we magically expect De Gea to do it either... he doesn't owe us a thing.
Might be BS but, Balague said he was set to sign a new contract when Van Gaal first arrived, but Van Gaal wasn't convinced by him. He wanted Navas or someone else. Its been muted a few times he didn't rate De Gea initially.
I understand completely. As you should know though, if there was a release clause and RM weren't prepared to pay it he'd have been stuck here. He looked after his own interests, as he's entitled to do.
The club made a total balls of this whole situation all Summer.
Madrid paid 10m€ to Levante for Navas but obviously his value in market is higher.I think that is a good deal for both although I feel sorry for Keylor.United gets a fair price for a player in last year of contract + a cheap goalkeeper
I remember some Madrid fan account tweeting something along the lines of 'I have no idea who this Woodward is, but I know Perez. Perez always wins'. Looking like that's how it's turning out.
It's been handled appallingly, De Gea should have played every game this season. This 'not focussed' stuff is rubbish, he would get focussed pretty bloody quickly I reckon.
Not selling then having him sat in the stand makes us look idiotic. We've tried to play it strong, but we've fecked it up. Best sell him for whatever we can get and sign Cilleson or whichever random cnut we can get to stand in the nets for us
Not selling then having him sat in the stand makes us look idiotic. We've tried to play it strong, but we've fecked it up. Best sell him for whatever we can get and sign Cilleson or whichever random cnut we can get to stand in the nets for us
We screwed up spectacularly on this one. I mean, this couldn't have got it more wrong than it has. Losing DDG in the final few hours of the window, for a mediocre fee (our best player should not be sold for £20M).
But come on guys, lets just accept that DDG is moving to his dream club (just as many other players who go to Madrid have done before him).
We should support the players we do have and hope they can get top 3 this season.
If we can win a title in the next few years and do well in the CL, our cache will increase and hopefully we will be able to attract better players, but for the time being, for all our money, our status isn't as high as it once was. We need to accept this.
But come on guys, lets just accept that DDG is moving to his dream club (just as many other players who go to Madrid have done before him).
We should support the players we do have and hope they can get top 3 this season.
If we can win a title in the next few years and do well in the CL, our cache will increase and hopefully we will be able to attract better players, but for the time being, for all our money, our status isn't as high as it once was. We need to accept this.
If he's looking after his own interests which included making things easy for Madrid, then what on earth are you blaming the club for? What can they do if the guy doesn't want to play ball? By all means he can look out for himself (which he has) but in that case what do you expect the club to do? The answer is nothing more than they did. We were put in this situation because of his selfishness.
Looks like the cnuts off.
So does that mean Navas will be included in the deal for De Gea?
Good riddance. Move on.
It was inevitable.
I had posters arguing with me when I said it's just a matter of time. Some posters were lauding Woodward for standing firm. Money and players almost always win in these situations.
Watch United gloss over the deal.
I had posters arguing with me when I said it's just a matter of time. Some posters were lauding Woodward for standing firm. Money and players almost always win in these situations.
Watch United gloss over the deal.
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