Let's be honest , a transfer ban on Madrid makes no difference !
They can't even sign players when there allowed to . @DDG
De Gea Contract Situation
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They can't even sign players when there allowed to . @DDG
I think this is such a ridiculous and poorly intentioned stand, and quite common amongst fans. De Gea signed a contract with you, he fills his end by showing up to work and doing his best, the club fills its end by employing him and using him according to needs. And no one in their right mind could suggest that the place where De Gea is more useful for United would be in the reserves...
As such, what's your goal? To blackmail a player into accepting to forever be your player, or entitling you to win money which you have no right to - at his own expense? I fail to see a benefit to anyone from this.
Never said he has kicked up a strop, but its the sense of entitlement these footballers and agents have now they can dictate to clubs who reward them handsomely as is. his girlfriend has spoke more about this fiasco than he has, its ludicrous
He'll leave in January window for a cut price.
Are you Mendes by any chance?
Most definitely
I think our goal is to accept a fair price for our players during the transfer window. Something Madrid had ample time to do.
Phil Neville just saying on the BBC that the Spanish goalkeeping coach, who he works with at Valencia, wanted De Gea to move to Spain.
Puts a slightly different spin on it, and maybe he's been told by the NT that he'll only be the #1 if he moves back to Spain?
Puts a slightly different spin on it, and maybe he's been told by the NT that he'll only be the #1 if he moves back to Spain?
This is a brilliant idea.
We don't allow De Gea to train.
He sues us for constructive dismissal (or FIFA will invoke the no-playing cause)
FIFA allow him to leave on a free in October.
Signs for Madrid for free
Profit?
What I've always wanted, now we can scout for a replacement at our own pace with him keeping the fort. Now the job is to reintegrate him into the squad and get him mentally ready to play again because Sunday proved we need him.
"Fair" is entirely subjective according to perspective and irrelevant for what I posted.
What has the "let's blackmail him into a renewal" got to do with that?
sit him on the bench then... coaching staff decisions are not illegal i guess.
its us or mendes who will impose its will. I prefer its us. (a shame de gea is caught in the middle of all this shit, but he choose his agent and loyalties...)
It's not a matter of blackmailing. It's a matter of 1) not receiving an offer we could accept and 2) not being too keen on playing a goalkeeper who is intent on leaving at the expense of someone who will be staying and/or giving youth some game time.
He'll have to prove he's ready to play and give us a year of good performances, or take face the consequence of wanting to join a club who dicks around on the last day of the window. If he wasn't ready to play for United for the length of his contract- then he never should have signed it in the first place.
You mean the same Mendes who moved €400m this season, €180m of which in deals on which United was involved?
He would love the deal to happen, as he would a contract renewal. These are the things that make him more money. I don't understand your point, or if you have a clue about what you're saying at all.
Why does he need to renew his contract to prove he's ready to play and give you a year of good performances? And are you seriously believing it's more beneficial to United to have De Gea in the reserves (this was being touted around here) or in the bench (to give playing time to someone you're probably not counting for the long term either)?
Coentrão
lol
how much money do you think have they offer him as agent bonus if DDG signs for Real madrid?
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leaving the agent out of it. Ok, its De Gea will to go to RM. ok...
the club will obviously accept a transfer in that case (if they met realistc valuation for arguably the best shot stopper keeper in the world, who is quite young as well).
They didnt match his valuation so the deal didnt go through. Now we have a keeper who we know will leave pretty soon, so whats the logical thing to do? play the keeper who will stay and is 100% with his mind on the club. Nothing wrong with that.
If RM come asking again in january, its the same thing again... if they match the valuation. He will leave... if not, he will stay and play or not play.
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And we'll play Romero in the Champions League knock-out stages?
What's the general consensus? Will he play? Will he sign a new deal?
What is the most realistic outcome now?
What is the most realistic outcome now?
Probably not more than what he wins with a regular transfer or contract renewal, considering I don't remember him ever advising a player to run down his contract. That's certainly not how he makes the majority of his money. If De Gea renews he wins with the renewal and if he leaves for a higher fee, he again wins with that. That's his modus operandi. He's been doing it at Porto for years. Done it with Falcao (helped with a contract renewal just so that he could be sold 15 days later).
It's certainly more in De Gea's interest not to sign than in the interest of his agent.
And you seem to imply Mendes is some kind of United enemy when United has been one of his best providers of opportunities to make money. Some of those, no one ever would, such as Bebé and Martial.
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He doesn't need to, of course. He can refuse to sign, but it goes without saying that we have no interest in helping the career of a player who is leaving us for free in a short while. The point I'm making is that for us to play him, he really needs to make himself undroppable, because with the current situation he will not be given the benefit of the doubt that he would if he was bound by a longer contract. To say it another way: when he doesn't commit long term with us, we won't treat him as a long term solution either. It goes both ways. But if he shows in training and the reserves that he's determined to play, then I hope he's back in the team ASAP.
It sure is a stretch, but it could be, yes. If we somehow managed to sort out the team to such an extent that we don't rely heavily on a fantastic goalkeeper, there is nothing wrong in thinking that we should rather play Romero to increase his sell on value, or even give Johnstone some game time to develop. Obviously, I don't think we'll ever reach that level this season, so DDG will probably play anyway. This is why I'd like us to bring in a decent young goalkeeper this window, to put some pressure on both De Gea and Romero.
Mendes, the one who make us invest all the Ronaldo profits on Di Maria, an inconsistent player representd by... Mendes. fecking Real Madrid recovered pretty much all the money invested on Ronaldo
No, i'm not saying he is our enemy, but i wouldn't mind not do business with him ever again.
Mendes, the one who make us invest all the Ronaldo profits on Di Maria, an inconsistent player representd by... Mendes. fecking Real Madrid recovered pretty much all the money invested on Ronaldo
I think there's someone else you should consider responsible for that. Mendes is not responsible for your poor management decisions. Not for the good, not for the bad. He serves players, not clubs.
That I can understand. People in charge at United seem to be going on the opposite direction though
So...what happens with the suit now?
nah... Woodward is like King Theoden, and Mendes was his Grima Wormtongue.
ffs
Those pics are picked to look bad, lots of Manchester is quite nice. Especially the posh spot the footballers live in.jesus. how do you people live there
This for me is the best case scenario. Yes, we lose money on De Gea but it isn't really that much money and there isn't really an obvious successor to De Gea this year. We can scout intensively this year for a new goalkeeper without being embroiled in transfer saga like this one.
I think he will sign a new deal but will 100% be going next summer anyway.
I'm not even sure if he will play again though to be honest, he must be so pissed off with us, he probably hates us now after this embarrassing shite.
I'm not even sure if he will play again though to be honest, he must be so pissed off with us, he probably hates us now after this embarrassing shite.
I think there's someone else you should consider responsible for that. Mendes is not responsible for your poor management decisions. Not for the good, not for the bad. He serves players, not clubs.
That I can understand. People in charge at United seem to be going on the opposite direction though
He wasn't involved in the Martial transfer. Thank feck.
Yessss!! Voted yes ages ago and never changed it
Ah, it was reported around here he was involved (not directly as the players agent). He seems to be involved in everything that relates to Monaco.
We haven't reached there yet. and Romero is not that bad plus we have Valdes.
Fair enough. But I frequently hear about how it always rains in Manchester. And even if it doesn't it's always grey. The buildings are not what I'm astonished about. It's the lack of sunlight. Something I clearly take for granted where I live
It's not that bad, I was there for the Spurs game, and it was sunny and lovely all weekend.
DeGea set to claim his compensation from Madrid they say...
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