Hey, I don't blame him for it at all! Just saying it would probably be prefered if we did get someone who really wanted to play for us is all.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Hey, I don't blame him for it at all! Just saying it would probably be prefered if we did get someone who really wanted to play for us is all.
Real didn't.
There's no chance whatsoever they risked that much money AND their current first choice keeper on a deal that they had no intention of actually completing. It makes no sense at all, what if it had gone through?
It's a classic real life example of Henlon's razor.
I like the idea of him signing a new contract so we can then get a fee, but it'll be fairly difficult to engineer I imagine. As much as we can threaten him with a year in the reserves, he'll also know that he's comfortably our best keeper and that we still need him since he's here because he's far better than Romero.
There's also the risk that forcing him to sign a new contract or let him rot on the bench could potentially come across as us being unnecessarily petty and vindictive.
There's also the risk that forcing him to sign a new contract or let him rot on the bench could potentially come across as us being unnecessarily petty and vindictive.
That would be a very interesting conversation.
Kaylor- Err, Dave, shame things didn't work out eh?
DDG- Shouldn't you be in Costa Rica dickhead
A lot does depend on gauging his thoughts, if there's a chance he'll cave and sign I'd genuinely go with my way. We can still sign a keeper in Jan. I'd take the risk of us getting by until then.
If there's no chance, then I'd just play him. But I really think that should be the last option rather than the first.
Ronaldo didn't sign a new contract the year before he left. I'm not sure why this myth keeps persisting.
All summer DDG longed to return to Madrid. Now he just wants to get the feck out of Madrid ASAP. Ah, the irony of life!
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If it's true that Madrid will pay him compensation for the failed transfer i don't see why he needs to sign a new contract as any wage increase would be covered by that for this year. I think it's a pathetic to give him an ultimatum to either sign a new contract or stay on the bench knowing the Euros are coming up and its unethical too, we are having a go at Madrid for being classless cnuts well doing a d!ck move like that puts us into that bracket too. If he's going to be professional and give 100% and see out and honour his final year of a contract he has between him and his employer there's no blame on him if he wants to leave at the end of it.
Yeah but we can just say, we just sold half a squad and expect to challenge and then bring out some nervous tick. He'll buy it
. Vindictive? Not at all. David will understand. It's just business. There's no ethics. People buy into all kinds of stuff. What will probably happens is the price of De Gea AND Navas will increase but both will probably be sold. For all intents and purposes, it was similar to Ronaldos last season. We used each other and that brought in 80m which was actually a bargain for them lot.This is a business...
Lets set our egos aside. We need De Gea as much as he needs us and we need a year to find a new keeper. Lets play him.
Yeah but we can just say, we just sold half a squad and expect to challenge and then bring out some nervous tick. He'll buy it
I'm not entirely convinced he'll buy it, though. He might. But if we go a few games where Romero costs us, there's going to be a lot of pressure to put De Gea back into the team if he has refused to sign a new contract. It'll certainly look petty if we allow ourselves to lose points due to refusing to play someone who intends to leave at the end of the season.
It's not particularly similar to Ronaldo's situation, either. A lot suspected Ronaldo would move onto Real Madrid eventually, but in 2008 when we had his first saga, he wasn't at the stage where he'd have moved if it hadn't been for delayed paperwork.
Agree with this no one benefits by sitting him on the bench for the season. He's going to leave in the end, let's use the best GK in the league to help us win matches.
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Fair enough. He wasn't in the last year though was he? But he could have gone and we made a deal, I think a deal could be made here.
It doesn't change what I think should happen though. But of course that depends on whether the people closest to Dave thinks he'd sign. All in all I'd rather we didn't let him rot on the bench for a year, that's no good to anyone, but neither is this going on all year.
DDG and Valdes will be an interesting convo though.Alright alright, did that one a couple of pages ago!
And Cassillas?
Did any of the silverware make your list of proud achievements? Maybe the treble sneaks into your list in a creditable 3rd place?
Still feel uneasy about this. Seems as though we've forced the lad to stay even though he clearly doesn't want to. Pissing Real off is brilliant, but other than that all we've done it landed ourself with a(nother) world-class keeper for an extra our manager isn't going to want to use.
Didin't know it was Olly's. Doesn't it usually have his name on it?
EDIT: Forget it. I totally missed it.
I'm dumber than Florentino.
We all are comparing with him .... the guy is a billionaire
Navas: Great to be back on international duty, eh David?
DDG: What are you doing here, you're not even Spanish.
Navas:
I tell you what, you point out where I stated he signed or we got him to sign a new contract. My point was, he wanted to go and Sir Alex convinced him to stay another year and we agreed a set fee we would sell him for. It's different to the De Gea situation but not entirely and if you follow what i've been saying - signing an extention with a realistic release clause won't see David De Gea break down and end up in a mental institution. Hope that clarifies it for ya...
People are saying it's unethical this or that. Jesus, how many people live on the streets? How many people cannot eat? And they're bringing ethics into it...lol. I think we're a bit far down the road..If we don't get him to sign a contract, we get nothing and it was all in vain...and maybe just maybe MADrid don't mind that. So let's be smart and recognize the guy isn't a fecking hostage and he won't go starving and he won't worry about his next pay cheque.
Personally I think 50million is a very fair price and the guy will be Madrid number one and Spains number one for the next 14 years. If they don't want to pay it? Then aren't we doing him a favor? After all, what is the point of playing for a club where no one gives a shit for you. De Gea is one of the best goalkeepers in the world and if they don't want to pay the money - purely because he's a goalkeeper and it's not 'attractive' to pay such money for a goalkeeper, then shame on Madrid. De Gea can win a team an extra 10 points at least a season probably.
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So you think this was our fault, or even a ploy?
Where's your list, newbie? Is silverware all you care about?
he's not a newbie and even if he was you shouldn't use that to try demean posters.
Navas - I should also be heading to grey, cold and wet Manchester afterwards but shit happens Dave.
We haven't forced him to do anything? First bid came in on Monday and it fell through because the buying club messed it up.
How? and why?
I presume you have read the statement released by United.
And how have we pissed of Real? unless you think we deliberately sent the documents at the nth hour so Madrid could not complete the transfer.
Haha you've cut me to the core there! I care more about the football than the transfer window, let's put it that way.
Can you understand that?
I voted YES
I also care about how the club handles its affairs off the pitch, I care about both equally as much. Of course performance on the pitch and general success is important, but we dropped a ball on this saga but managed to stand firm and not cave to the mighty Madrid once again, I am satisfied with that, and with making our stance clear. Thats my opinion anyways. Winning is great, but the manner in how we win, such as with kids from '92, is more important.
What's this about De Gea getting £7.3M (€10M?) from Madrid anyway?
Well the spanish paper AS reported that Madrid had a deal with De Gea that they would pay him 10million euros if they didn't complete his transfer this year.. I have no idea how they will go about giving him this amount legally,without it being seen as he was tapped up..
Personally I'd call getting a transfer ban for illegal transfer activities 'an unmitigated disaster'. As well as being highly embarrassing.
As for Chelsea being 'effective' is this transfer window? Trololololololololol
I still think that its the signing on bonus which Madrid may have agreed to give him if the deal doesn't go through and he signs on a free transfer. It makes no sense for a club to agree to pay money (damages) to a player for failing to complete his signing.
If De Gea had a brain cell left he won't move to Madrid next year after the way he's been treated by them.
This.
If he doesn't want to stay at all, why play him? We are not a small time club who tend to get bullied by players.
@jojojo What's the reaction in Spanish newspapers today. Are they laying into Perez?
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