Yeah what I find funny about that is that he will give a player 1 or 2 poor performances before giving up on him totally while expecting United to give him poor performance after poor performance without showing him the door.
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Manchester United 0:1 Southampton
Post-match discussion
Sat, 23 January 2016
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Yeah what I find funny about that is that he will give a player 1 or 2 poor performances before giving up on him totally while expecting United to give him poor performance after poor performance without showing him the door.
Yes a lot of blame for LvG from the matchgoers, Rooney also getting a lot of stick.
People wonder why he has not signed players? Because he can then chuck in kids who will be eternally grateful to him, would put their hands into a fire if he asked and whose careers he will end up destroying more than enhancing in the end.
I 'missed' the game...I never miss United games.
Thanks mate. Doesn't sound too great tbh.
Do you think the booing is all directed at LvG? Or at LvG, Woodward and the board and to a lesser extent the players?
No wonder the mouse made an appearance.
@Damien
If this is allowed can you let us who have already chosen, have the option to change it please?
Remarkably similar to last season. Crap game settled by one chance in Southampton's favour.
What were you drinking Absinthe?Jesus...just realised that when I was drunk last night I put Rooney onto my fantasy football team AND made him captain!!!
Don't drink and play kids!
People were asking why some hadn't changed their vote in the LvG Out thread. I think some are in hibernation. One was this little mouse, who woke up and thought. "We are in a pickle. I will log on the RedCafe and change my vote to Sack him now".
I won't vote for anybody but the mouse who masqueraded as a squirrel.
@Damien
If this is allowed can you let us who have already chosen, have the option to change it please?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Obviously.
Just wait until Spring comes.
I'm hoping that the reason he is still here is that we are in with a genuine chance of landing Pep. There is no other plausible reason for him to still be managing United.
Thanks mate. Doesn't sound too great tbh.
Do you think the booing is all directed at LvG? Or at LvG, Woodward and the board and to a lesser extent the players?
its aimed at LvG and the players - I dont hear much talk in the stands about Woodward and the board TBH
Yet really the board are letting this all roll along. The club is festering.
This is what I would be doing.
If I were a loved one and he returned home today, I'd tell him that he should retire and go enjoy the rest of his life.
Someone of his age, who is ready to retire doesn't need that much hatred directed towards him. And the thing is, its going to get worse, there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
It definitely won't get better for him. Not a great way to end a career.
What were you drinking Absinthe?
I wish then at least I'd have a good excuse...but no just copious amount of red wine. I've got a dose of the fear already and todays shambles isn't helping me either.
The 5-3-2 formation wasn't clearly working yet still he persevered for the whole game. That's well....
well Im actually glad that our board has some patience and is willing to give a manager time - I do not want to see us turn into a managerial merrygo round like Real, Chelsea etc. But of course there is always a point when a change is for the best.
The players were also awful. The biggest issue was LvG not changing the formation until the final whistle.
There's an empty feeling that you can't forget
Reaching out, reaching out for a helping hand
A definitive explanation of LVG. Stubborn to no end.
The frustration is understandable and unfortunately we are in a bad spell and it seems after today the majority of fans had enough and expressed their frustrations. There is no improvement from the previous season and as a dutchie it saddens me to see LVG in this position, because i had high hopes we would put a convincing title campaign under his reign during his second season. I do not know what to think of LVG right now, because i was convinced that he would be a success here, but i can not deny the holes in our system, the decline of certain players and the thought and purpose behind the tactics and subs.
Everything has become robotized and the players are like bionic persons programmed and conditioned to keep the dull system intact. The gaps between midfield and attackers are bigger then a retired call girl's love temple and its frustrating to see clubs like Norwich coming to Old Trafford and playing football that we should be playing and they have a far more inferior squad. When we step unto the pitch we are not only playing against an opponent, but also against ourselves. We do not have a system which can blow opponents from the table, therefore we play the football we feel comfortable by such as walking the ball to your team mate, back passes to the defenders, going for the safe options and hoofing the ball forward when the options to play with the feet are not available and that happens a lot.
The poison, determination and urgency is missing like a birthday cake for a prisoner and at this point fans are not all that fussed about a United game being on and that is very sorrowful. Anyway, the fans should stick together and we must support the club no matter what.
Everything has become robotized and the players are like bionic persons programmed and conditioned to keep the dull system intact. The gaps between midfield and attackers are bigger then a retired call girl's love temple and its frustrating to see clubs like Norwich coming to Old Trafford and playing football that we should be playing and they have a far more inferior squad. When we step unto the pitch we are not only playing against an opponent, but also against ourselves. We do not have a system which can blow opponents from the table, therefore we play the football we feel comfortable by such as walking the ball to your team mate, back passes to the defenders, going for the safe options and hoofing the ball forward when the options to play with the feet are not available and that happens a lot.
The poison, determination and urgency is missing like a birthday cake for a prisoner and at this point fans are not all that fussed about a United game being on and that is very sorrowful. Anyway, the fans should stick together and we must support the club no matter what.
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Mate, I am with you 100% all the way and agree completely. You know we both have pretty much the same feelings about United on and off the pitch, and like you I wanted LvG to succeed so badly, but it just isn't working. I sense the last line of your post is you conceding the same.
We're just being sentimental. There's only ever been 3 managers who have lasted long term in the Premiership. Sir Alex, Wenger, and Moyes at Everton. They all performed to their clubs expectations and above. I'm not saying we should change for the sake of change. LvG is clearly not working which has been obvious for some time. Barcelona, Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern have not had long term managers and are still at the very top, change has not hurt their success.
Well Im not quite in the 'LvG Out' camp yet but that performance puts me a step closer! to be honest I wouldnt be surprised if he resigned
Yes the players definitely need to take a lot of the blame - especially the forwards, Rooney and Herrera offering very little
to be fair, Van Gaal did make a big change at half time but it made little difference in the end
@LazyRed-Ninja, I know you are lazy, but paragraphs dude. paragraphs!
Yes, fixed it. Did not pay attention to much to that because i had a lot to say and i decided to keep it short.
Definitely.
Thats the spirit.
when it comes to managers, there is a big difference between the way Barca and Bayern are run compared to Real and Chelsea - Im happy to take the former two as an example to follow but not the latter.
He just changed personnel. Not the formation. The wing backs were just not working.
Bayern have a great structure. Need to poach a few personnel from the club. Sorry @Balu
I bloody hope we've somehow talked Guardiola round, because that is literally the only way I can possibly rationalise us sticking with a manager who, never mind the players, has completely lost the fans.
well i expected that having Herrera rather than Fellaini in midfield would give us more creativity and forward intent but it didnt happen
How come we haven't learnt from the previous shit results and god awful performances, then?
I know there's nothing else the players could say, but I'm sick of the usual, cliched garbage that's being spouted after every single bad result. I guess I notice it more due to the fact that it's same old shit, different week.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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23%
David de Gea
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11%
Chris Smalling
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8%
Ander Herrera
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7%
Morgan Schneiderlin
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6%
Matteo Darmian
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5%
Paddy McNair
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4%
Juan Mata
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2%
Daley Blind
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2%
Adnan Januzaj
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2%
Anthony Martial
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2%
Marouane Fellaini
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1%
Wayne Rooney
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 424 ratings.
Score Predictions
531,28,99
- Man Utd win
- Southampton win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 25% Man Utd 2:0 Southampton
- 23% Man Utd 2:1 Southampton
- 17% Man Utd 1:0 Southampton
- 8% Man Utd 0:0 Southampton
- 6% Man Utd 3:0 Southampton
- 6% Man Utd 1:1 Southampton
- 5% Man Utd 3:1 Southampton
- 2% Man Utd 5:0 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 1:2 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 1:3 Southampton
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 4:0 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 0:5 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 4:5 Southampton
- 0% Man Utd 3:2 Southampton
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Southampton
- Possession
- 55% 45%
- Shots
- 8 7
- Shots on Target
- 1 2
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 11 8
Referee
Mike Jones
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