Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Surely has significantly strengthened his position today?
How? If he really wants his history in foreign policy to be dragged out front and centre of the debate about him, he's not going to come out of it well.
Neither is Labour, and Iraq is a slightly more topical story than Eastern Europe.
JC did well in PMQs today too. He seems to be doing better now that a large part of the PLP have decided to stop doing their jobs. I suspect he might have been getting 'bad advices' as Arnie would put it.
I think the failed coup is showing that for all of Corbyn's blind incompetence (and there's a lot of it), the supposed more sensible, moderate figures within the party are also incredibly incompetent. Incompetent on a similar level to Corbyn himself, despite many of them having more frontline experience. Which should be evidenced by the fact that the last two leaders before Corbyn were both sort of incompetent in their own right.
I also think it's going to be hard for them to oust him now in favour of a candidate who hasn't put their name forward yet. I'd find it just a tad difficult to believe someone wants to be PM when they've already turned down two opportunities within the past year.
I also think it's going to be hard for them to oust him now in favour of a candidate who hasn't put their name forward yet. I'd find it just a tad difficult to believe someone wants to be PM when they've already turned down two opportunities within the past year.
Corbyn certainly has strengthened his own position.
Maybe. Also I don't know how much truth is in this but on that Vice doc Seamus Milne(Corbyn strategist ?)had said someone was leaking Corbyn questions to the Tories. Can't of helped(If it's true)
You are correct, Labour as a whole has reached a state of critical incompetence. That's clear in Scotland, it would be clear in Wales if there was any opposition worthy of the name, and it's clear in Westminster. The PLP is dismissive of the membership, and the membership is dismissive of the public. The NEC is now studied using a kind of Kremlinology, tallying up which members are pro-Corbyn and which are anti-, and that's the stage where it's likely to be decided whether Corbyn is or isn't on a leadership ballot. None of it works, and hasn't been working for many years now, but it continues to lumber on partly because of the romanticism of past achievements, partly because of the stark electoral reality that it would face if starting afresh.
Think we better get used to the idea of a fair few years of May.
Okay, I can officially now give up all hope.
Good speech
The chap who made that Vice documentary said that he never saw a single member of the PLP anywhere near Corbyn or his offices. I think it is fair to say that neither side were interested in working together.
I'd say the party membership growing to be about 1% of the population of the entire country is a reason for some hope.
Awesome speech. I agree with him completely.
It's okay comrade when we take power you will be forced to have hope.
There's still this
Although I image the tweet you posted is right as any Labour voters who don't like Corbyn will just simply vote for other party(Lib Dems or maybe the Tories)rather than becoming a member to vote in a leadership race.
Me for example.
Edit: it's not that I don't like Corbyn, it's just that the party is doomed. I actually do like him.
Is the party being doomed not about how you perceive his electability?
He still has to go. Purely, because the situation just isn't tenable. I do really like the guy though, and have the utmost respect for him. Disappointed that he didn't lead a strong campaign to keep Britain in the EU, but I think in the grand scheme of things, this doesn't tarnish my opinion of him much.
Whilst it's impossible to put a definite figure on it, using random samples I imagine you can get a pretty good idea. At the same time it may also be a lot of membership renewals going through, as it was at about this point last year that the membership really began to surge with Corbmentum (original tweet says "applications" rather than confirmed new individual members).
But in general, looking at whatever bits of qualitative evidence there is around, I don't see enough turning against him for anything to come of it. My own CLP branch, for instance, emailed demanding an emergency meeting earlier this week to express its undying support.
Shame. Many more years of Conservatives doing whatever they please with that pointless hippy at the helm of the supposed opposition.
My town has always been one for Labour. Huge numbers of people locally are signing up and paying the monthly subscription in support of Corbyn. I must have counted 20+ comment on my own Mum's facebook status about it saying they had joined.
Cracked me up.
If Corbyn ever became significant to the Tories, Murdoch could sink him forever in a week.
Aye the tories must be relieved they won't have to face the strength of the mighty Angela Eagle.
Cracked me up.
If Corbyn ever became significant to the Tories, Murdoch could sink him forever in a week.
Supposing it's true, are we okay with that?
She does have the advantage, of course, of never having appeared to public praise terrorist organisations (to my knowledge, at least).
I'm sure the Tories (and their press) will be nice come election time and forget Jeremy (and his chief of strategy and comms) did this. I'm also sure they won't tie this directly to John McDonnell's statements on the IRA. Nope, that would be well beneath them.
I'm sure the Tories (and their press) will be nice come election time and forget Jeremy (and his chief of strategy and comms) did this. I'm also sure they won't tie this directly to John McDonnell's statements on the IRA. Nope, that would be well beneath them.
True, I would hope she was just a "best at short notice" option though.
It is irrelevant. Those are the conditions any party that is going to beat the Tories will have to operate in.
McDonell have given enough anumition in the past year for Murdoch to get the job done. Let alone digging into Corbyn's past.
Sounds just like the Leave voters, commiting to radical action without developing a plan of action and downplaying negative impacts. All these members coming over here and taking over our party.
"Make Labour New Again"
hmmm. Hamas are the elected representatives of the Palestinians in Gaza. Heck I suppose we can call all the Palestinians there terrorists then. Just like Iranians call America terrorists...blah blah.
ahh well.
ahh well.
Which politicians wouldn't provide Murdoch enough anumition and should we be limiting ourselves to them?
I would say that Corbyn is pretty much the worst that Labour could go for on that count.
He ticks all the wrong boxes for readers of The Sun and Daily Mail.
The killing of jews is explicitly encouraged in their covenant.
Again, the Tories won't bring any of this up so it'll all be totally fine.
Don't really care about Labour tbh, all I know is the Conservatives are in charge of the biggest overhaul of our legal and economic framework in history and we need a strong Labour to keep them honest, maybe even challenge the overhaul itself.
Under Corbyn Labour is an irrelevance.
Most of these Middle Eastern countries see the Jews and the United States as evil. So what.
You Can live with your enemies. To put up these mental blocks is what brings about more bloodshed.
I'm not commenting one way or the other on the morality of it here, I'm saying he's going to get eviscerated in a general election campaign. This is but one example. And that's before taking into consideration that he's already the least liked leader of the opposition since Foot.