Yeah, eventually he benched terry but you could argue he, and his predecessors, kept terry in the team a long time beyond the point when he was cutting the mustard week in week out.
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I am quite a recent full member(although been reading the boards for quite some time) so I don't want to be throwing suggestions around, but I feel every super muppet transfer saga should have two threads: a) sane thread b) insane thread.
Hopefully Mourinho doesn't change the whole team around to squeeze Rooney in somewhere if his performances aren't there. My gut says if we sign Pogba then Rooney will go, maybe not this season but definitely next.
I disagree. Until we actually sign a player, every saga is just speculation and journalists bs. The insanity far out weights the sanity until the player signs. At which time there is a transition to more sane posts.
By looking at current market valuations, yes he does. And he will only improve from here on, provided right environment of course.
No debate, wait till he's holding our playing shirt up at his unveiling press conference then we will know it's true, until then it's all bollocks, we have been stung so many times, don't get sucked in, wait for the above,once bitten and all that.
Don't we have the twitter updates for genuine news? I mostly avoid these transfer threads as it will normally be 95% shitetalk.
We'd better get back on topic. I've just got promoted, i'd rather not immediately hack off the mods. : )
Depends how much value you put on twitter updates. Basically whatever medium you use for transfer rumours its like rooting for pearls in a toilet.
cosigned.
I get your point, but all transfer sagas have their set-backs, remember Memphis? It was totally off before it suddenly was completed.
We can't, in my opinion, close threads as soon as there is some bad tweets, or no tweets at all, we might as well close the whole transfer forum then.
That's my opinion anyway!
Okay imagine time skipped back 3/4 years but all the players including Pogba were the same age as now. Would you have considered Pogba a £50-55m player back then (considering inflation obviously i reckon thats a similar amount). In my opinion he would have been, so 100m isn't unreasonable now especially considering money is pretty much growing on trees for utd right now.
I haven't watched much of him in Italy so I'm a little confused as to why he's only got the 10 goals this season.
Given his talent, reputation, the advanced position he plays, what he's about to cost, shouldn't he be getting nearer double that? That's what you'd expect from a top class No.10.
Can anyone who watches him consistently explain why his goal tally falls into the modest bracket.
Given his talent, reputation, the advanced position he plays, what he's about to cost, shouldn't he be getting nearer double that? That's what you'd expect from a top class No.10.
Can anyone who watches him consistently explain why his goal tally falls into the modest bracket.
Also got 16 assists.
He's not a #10 like Ozil. He's a strong, powerful box-to-box midfielder.
Because he isnt a specialist #10. He is more of a slightly deeper, box to box player. He isnt a Isco or a Ozil or a Silva - they are out and out #10s. And btw Silva has not scored more than 12 goals in the league in the past 5 seasons. It doesnt mean he isnt a good player.
ten goals from a number 8 position is a very good return and added to the 16 assists he got, outstanding.
Strikers rarely get to 20 in Italy. I think Dybala was Juventus top scorer with 19 last season. Pogba wasn't as far forward as a number 10 from what i had seen apart from breaking forward into that space.
Indeed. Pogba is a number 8. Our new Paul Ince should we land him
I need more rumors its gone too quiet.
This just adds to the confusion for me. There doesn't seem to be a concensus on where he should play. Some say he's a 10, others a box to box midfielder, then he's an 8.
It's only a decent goal return for a No.8. Poor if he is in fact a 10.
If he's not tearing it up next season I can see endless debates about where he should be played.
Everyone is saying Pogbas best position is with 2 midfielders behind him to do the dirty work I'd have thought he'd work best on the left of a 3 with 1 holding mid behind 2 box to box midfielders. Sure we won't play that at first as Rooney will play but hopefully he gets phased out and we can go to
Pogba - Herrera
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Pogba - Herrera
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Didn't he play as a left CM in a 4-3-1-2, with all of Hernanes, Dybala and Manduzic/Morata ahead of him?
We could always let the local CAF ITK's back in and have them tell us how they heard pogba is on his way from their cousin who is mates with the Janitor at carrington.
This is pretty much the same as Mkhitaryan and Zlatan in that there was a flood of rumour activity then it went quiet for a while before it picked up again before being announced. Assuming that while they were putting the final agreements in place, hopefully that is the same with this one.
Dortumnd had their asking price agreed & Zlatan was a free agent. Not comparable at all to Pogba really.
I dont want to get into the statistics debate since its clearly a flawed method of analysis but on whoscored he ranked as the 10th best player in europe and on squawka he came in at 51st. Whoscored rank him as Juve's best player last season and Squawka rank him at third behind Dybala and Bonucci. Again according to the stats he's a central midfielder in most of his games and an occasional Defensive midfielder.
Personally i'd have said that a box to box midfielder central midfielder is usually a number 8 and a defensive midfieler is a 4/6 depending on who you speak to.
It could also be that he's played in a few different places for Juve, I've no idea where he plays when they switch to 4-3-3, and back with Conte, he played beside Vidal and in front of Pirlo in a 3 man midfield.
This thread nearly has a million views already.
Clearly, he's not a number 10. He's a goal scoring, box to box midfielder.
Whoscored says he played there from the start a couple of times so it seems reasonable that he plays there in parts of games. It also has him down as a CDM on occasion as well though. Basically i'd interpret it that he's a central midfielder until theres a tactical reason for changing that.
In Seria A or all compets?
Goodbye.
When you see that Napoli want 80 mil for Higuain, 100 mil for Pogba is almost a bargain considering he's not even in his prime/peak yet. And we'll get 4-5 years at least of him at his best potentially.
Another reminder - if you come into this thread posting pointless drivel that takes it off topic you will be thread banned and infracted.
Ignore the part where I talk about where Pogba actually plays, cool. He is not a 10 in any way apart from the number he wheres.
Unless you were one of those who called Lampard a 10.
Edit: just saw the reminder above. My bad.
There's a whole bunch of posters in this thread who say he isn't a box to box centre midfielder. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer a player who has a role, a role at which he's best at and that we can all agree on.
13 assists in Seria A.
That's quite good. Thanks, mate.
Ok to keep on topic, do we think Pogba will improve under Mourinho?
Pogba strikes me as an instinctive and creative player. Mourinho likes players to be able to play in a regimented manner, hence his binning of Mata at chelsea (and most likely united). Is Mourinho the man to get the most out of him or will he end up being stifled?
I'm hopeful that should he come, Mourinho will improve his consistancy but not take the flair and imagination out of his game
Pogba strikes me as an instinctive and creative player. Mourinho likes players to be able to play in a regimented manner, hence his binning of Mata at chelsea (and most likely united). Is Mourinho the man to get the most out of him or will he end up being stifled?
I'm hopeful that should he come, Mourinho will improve his consistancy but not take the flair and imagination out of his game