Looks like it will take a long time until it's done.
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I'm opening this thread automatically last few days only to realize nothing is happening.
I have a feeling it's all done though, although maybe I'm just consoling myself.
I have a feeling it's all done though, although maybe I'm just consoling myself.
Funny that all the itks go quiet when the rest of the media goes quiet. When there's rumours flying around tbeyre all like 'don't worry lads, it's happening'. The quiet times is when they should be proving themselves
You can't just cast off players who at the moment are average. Carrick and Bastian are great experience and the potential for Schneiderlin is huge. We should be trying to give players like Morgan and Herrera a chance rather than labelling them as average- it's still early days for them at United. We should be doing that alongside buying - and spunking £100m on Pogba would be sufficient. If we start getting players like Matuidi aswell and just kicking out others who haven't been here long who we spent big money on it would be daft.
Fellaini is horseshit
Proving themselves how ? What do you expect - that they make up things if there is nothing new? Only thing that's seems to have changed in the last couple days, after Pogba just lost a painful final is Raiola saying same thing he's said with other clients - maybe he'll stay. Well anything can happen in these deals - DDG was on his way to Madrid and it broke down. Even Mkhitariyan when the club store made the mistake of the shirts - it went quiet for a few days and that was an even easier / more of a done deal, there wasn't a need for anyone to prove themselves during that down time and Zlatan's confirmation didn't come till more than a few days once he was done with Euros and for that there was no other club to negotiate with.
Think a little patience is in order for the next week or two - I don't think we'll get any real news till then while United try to finalize it.
I share what I 've read in a couple of articles , nothing new I think. Sorry if repeated , I have not read the last pages of the thread.
http://vozpopuli.com/deportes/85952...olver-al-manchester-por-123-millones-de-euros
This is from 11/07 and is saying that the price would be 123 million euros, 100+23 in extras. United offered Mata to decrease the price but Juve didn´t accept. About sales, the article says" Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young, Morgan Schneiderlin and Bastian Schweinsteiger also would be in the spotlight of the Portuguese..."
http://www.elconfidencial.com/depor...al-madrid-manchester-united-mourinho_1231276/
El Confidencial says that Pogba is not totally convinced about the return and is waiting a gesture of Florentino but also says that Florentino doesn´t like him because has a very physical profile.
http://www.marca.com/blogs/futbolitis/2016/07/12/pogba-la-prioridad-de-mourinho.html
A columnist in marca (working in Cope too) says that " Pogba has already told his people that want to go to United and that only values the option of Real Madrid -his relationship with Zidane is excellent - as an alternative." According to him Juve have asked him to stay one more year.They consider that his price will be similar the next summer but believe it will be very difficult to keep him.
About Raiola commission, he says that he would not charge in the operation as a representative as has been reported but as the owner of 20% Pogba rights, keeping 24 of the total 120meuros.
http://vozpopuli.com/deportes/85952...olver-al-manchester-por-123-millones-de-euros
This is from 11/07 and is saying that the price would be 123 million euros, 100+23 in extras. United offered Mata to decrease the price but Juve didn´t accept. About sales, the article says" Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young, Morgan Schneiderlin and Bastian Schweinsteiger also would be in the spotlight of the Portuguese..."
http://www.elconfidencial.com/depor...al-madrid-manchester-united-mourinho_1231276/
El Confidencial says that Pogba is not totally convinced about the return and is waiting a gesture of Florentino but also says that Florentino doesn´t like him because has a very physical profile.
http://www.marca.com/blogs/futbolitis/2016/07/12/pogba-la-prioridad-de-mourinho.html
A columnist in marca (working in Cope too) says that " Pogba has already told his people that want to go to United and that only values the option of Real Madrid -his relationship with Zidane is excellent - as an alternative." According to him Juve have asked him to stay one more year.They consider that his price will be similar the next summer but believe it will be very difficult to keep him.
About Raiola commission, he says that he would not charge in the operation as a representative as has been reported but as the owner of 20% Pogba rights, keeping 24 of the total 120meuros.
I never said get rid of them straight away, but? they do have to go has jose comes into his second and hopefully third season has the engine room is rebuilt hopefully. Herrea is not a CM, he is more of a number 10, morgan yes he could be something more, but? bastian's injury problems, carricks legs have almost gone, its a problem. Here lies another problem, the club's failure to really put the engine room in good stead, means? the midfield is still in need of some major surgery replacing carrick, and needing to sign that all round midfielder, and who knows who plays off the striker.
Fellaini I would also say is another no10, so here lies our problem, we have very ageing and injury prone midfielders like carrick and bastian who can never play in the same 11, herrera, mata and fellaini I would say play in the same position off the striker, while morgan we could say is our only younger CM we have got. So the club despite money spent on mata, fellaini, morgan, bastian, have not got to the levels of improving the team.
POGBA BABY!! Let me alow the muppetry to take over me for a minute.
If and when he joins, I believe this will be a season changing signing. I believe even the doubters here know it. A 23year old who is one of the, if not the star of both Juventus and France. Speed, skill and bags of confidence..
I believe there are three kinds of people who want to downplay what a coup this would be for united.
1. Rival fans
2. Juventus fans
3. United fans who don’t want to get their hearts broken, so they are downplaying the significance of this move.
My advice to all is: This is the Muppet season, visualize this attack facing against Liverpool next season.
Miki Pogba Martial
Zlatan
Ps: Those who don’t like the flashy life style of Depay and the dabbing from Lingard will be clawing their eyes once those three start hanging out.
If and when he joins, I believe this will be a season changing signing. I believe even the doubters here know it. A 23year old who is one of the, if not the star of both Juventus and France. Speed, skill and bags of confidence..
I believe there are three kinds of people who want to downplay what a coup this would be for united.
1. Rival fans
2. Juventus fans
3. United fans who don’t want to get their hearts broken, so they are downplaying the significance of this move.
My advice to all is: This is the Muppet season, visualize this attack facing against Liverpool next season.
Miki Pogba Martial
Zlatan
Ps: Those who don’t like the flashy life style of Depay and the dabbing from Lingard will be clawing their eyes once those three start hanging out.
It's funny cause they recon the person your married to wasn't your first choice so I'm not too bothered if Pogba isn't ours. After all, some of our best signings weren't our first choice either.....!!!!
Provide an example of a ''transfer that may actually happen'', and compare it to this, because it genuinely does baffle me how easily you can identify this one wont'.
I for one do not care where he plays. If Jose wants him (after sitting back plotting a squad and signing every target you have gone after), then let him figure out where to play him.
Another thing that I don't comprehend is how all of a sudden a pool of very good players is not good enough. I am speaking of those downplaying Carrick and Schwiny specifically. If I learnt one thing last season it's that injuries happen.
As for Pogba, I think he will come. I think signing him may trigger one additional pickup. He is due to come home. He can come in and bring trophies to United.
Another thing that I don't comprehend is how all of a sudden a pool of very good players is not good enough. I am speaking of those downplaying Carrick and Schwiny specifically. If I learnt one thing last season it's that injuries happen.
As for Pogba, I think he will come. I think signing him may trigger one additional pickup. He is due to come home. He can come in and bring trophies to United.
I think Pogba would be best in a 433 if we drop a CAM and just allow Martial, Micky and himself to interchange and occupy the middle of the field behind Ibra. Although we'd need someone more defensive behind him to provide some stability which is worrying as Morgan is according to reports available to be sold, which doesn't leave us with any midfielders who are very good at breaking up play.
Shipping out Mata, Rojo could go a long way to releasing funds.
Its only the calm before the storm. In the meantime, I know what this thread needs
£100 Million? Seems about right.
£100 Million? Seems about right.
I want the signing to happen, but I feel very well prepared in case we don't. It's all due to the previous disappointments+megathreads for Sneijder, Vidal, Thiago and Ramos.
Thanks Caf.
Thanks Caf.
I refuse to believe that this is the same guy who was sitting on the bench while Rafael was playing in midfield.
Of course he isn't the same guy! That guy was just an inexperienced teenager. This guy here is one of the most complete midfielders in the world today.
Not early days for Herrera anymore he needs to step up or move on.
Did he really. Don't think that's been mentioned on here before.
We've got to let it go folks
Is Florentino looking to make love?
You forgot to mention Park ji sung.
It's gonna be interesting to see if the radio silence these last few days means that something is going on behind the door, or if it means that there was actually no truth to these rumours. I'm afraid the latter is the case. Do we actually have any reasonable reason to believe that United are prepared to offer this sum for him - let alone have any interest in him? I know Ballague and Richard Keys have said so, but come on... To me there could just as much truth in the latest (crazy) rumours about Cesc Fabregas. It smells like another Vidal/Ramos saga to me, and it wouldn't surprise me if this "saga" is just going to die slowly without any more big news and any clarification to whether we were actually interested/close to signing a deal.
I'm sure @Pexbo was against the signing to
Anyway, if you guys had a gun to your heads which way would you, Pogba coming or not?
Still think he's obviously coming, personally. I haven't been swayed. I actually take the quietness as a positive.
Not coming.
If he isn't here in time for the Community Shield I doubt we sign him.
Didn't read whole last few pages, whats the general mood status update?
I think Pogba is heading to United in the next 7-10 days. There is to much talk, we want him badly, Real is backing out the don't want to pay so much for him. All that is left to do is PR stuff to make everyone in this transaction look good
Have some faith muppets. You got to believe or die trying.
I think Pogba is heading to United in the next 7-10 days. There is to much talk, we want him badly, Real is backing out the don't want to pay so much for him. All that is left to do is PR stuff to make everyone in this transaction look good
Have some faith muppets. You got to believe or die trying.
Things seem to have gotten a little quieter over the last two days which I think is probably a good sign. Things going on behind the scenes.
Yes, and it's contradictory to his agents statements. The more clubs the more noise we should be hearing..
He has just posted a pic of his new hair on Insta. The colour is telling.....white and black.
I think woody will pay whatever it takes to get him here so I'm confident this will get done eventually. Not saying it's the right thing to do as I'd put a limit at 120 however I think woody will go higher.
Yes, there is plenty of belief...
1 - Mourinho tried desperately to sign him for Chelsea.
2 - Ed, just as desperate, has been trying to smash the world record fee on a player. We are desperate for a player, that can show we are "back!"
3 - His agent, Raiola, has mentioned United, saying something along the lines that, we are not the only club interested in him.
4 - Not only Ballague and Keys have mentioned this, but guys in Italy, where Pogba plays his club football.
So, all-in-all, we are in for him. Whether it comes off? Well, that is another matter entirely. As we saw last year for ourselves, at first hand, De Gea to Madrid was all but done...
Hahahaha, same thing I thought!
His hair is always shit.
It's blonde with tram lines by the way. I don't think there's white or black dye
Doubt there's anyone else in for him at the moment. Sounds more like price-haggling between Juve and United, with Raiola also interested in driving the price up as he gets a cut. Juventus may well not want to sell unless they get a sufficiently ridiculous offer, so this might be decided by how badly Woody wants his man and whether Pogba is particularly keen to come or not.
The only curious thing that keeps me thinking that its definitely still happening, is that it takes zero effort on the part of Pogba or Juve to simply come out and say "these rumours are not true i'll/he'll be staying" this hasn't happened. I think that there may be more than a financial exchange (other players involved) that need convincing or negotiating with (ala Navas and De Gea)
Also if rumours are to be believed that Chelsea have secured Kante, it means we need a resolution out of this matter or else be caught not even getting our 2nd/3rd/4th preferences if they also move on. I personally would like to see it out and risk it to try and secure him, but I guess others may think we should move on right away..or maybe Woody can just sign both.
I imagine commercially the club would want him signed before the tour of China, shirt sales will probably go through the roof.
Also if rumours are to be believed that Chelsea have secured Kante, it means we need a resolution out of this matter or else be caught not even getting our 2nd/3rd/4th preferences if they also move on. I personally would like to see it out and risk it to try and secure him, but I guess others may think we should move on right away..or maybe Woody can just sign both.
I imagine commercially the club would want him signed before the tour of China, shirt sales will probably go through the roof.Well he has Black hair for a start. And the rest is dyed as close to white as you can get without actually being white the little swoosh is left black.
You could easily dimiss it if the speculation wasnt through the roof at the moment and he knows the media is all over this. Its a huge statement. He is 23 ffs probably searches his own name on twitter and gets a kick out of reading the speculation.
POGBOFF
Oh ffs