You don't wrap up a world record transfer in an afternoon
I am quietly very confident on this one
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I am quietly very confident on this one
If we get Fabregas instead of Pogba I will not be impressed given reports we are interested in him. Fabregas is an unwanted c^nt.
No news means there is behind the scenes work going on. If pogba wasn't convinced in going a press release would have came out stating he was staying but I fear it's now turning into contract negotiations for him to remain at juventus and with riaola saying pogba could stay at juventus is leaving it open for him to get more money for his client.
Can't see them 'reports' being true. Wasn't Fabregas one of the troublemakers at Chelsea last season?
The way I see it (from piecing together news stories and from simple logic), is that Pogba met with his agent on Mon/Tue, laid out his intentions, then set Mino off to work getting everyone back together to thrash it out. This definitely wont be done in an afternoon. Now PP has gone off on his hols and is letting his agent do the dirty work while he jives to trap groove, or whatever the hell you kids are calling it.
His agent is already being coy and not making any big noises either way. The leaks from both sides (or from related parties sticking their noses in) will dry up as nobody wants to piss off the other one during big negotiations. Just have to wait for a big break, probably from Castles or Di Marzio.
His agent is already being coy and not making any big noises either way. The leaks from both sides (or from related parties sticking their noses in) will dry up as nobody wants to piss off the other one during big negotiations. Just have to wait for a big break, probably from Castles or Di Marzio.
Juventus can barely afford a new contract for Pogba never mind the agent fee Riaola is probably demanding. We are definitely in favour when it comes to that and I'm sure he would prefer Pogba to move to us as his paycheck would be astronomical.
Marca today reporting that Pogba wants to go back to United with €13m per year agreed, 5 year deal?
Thoughts guys?
Thoughts guys?
Just come home from work and jumped straight onto this thread and still no news . It's like groundpog day again 
I want it to happen purely for the statement it'd make, can't remember the last time a club beat Madrid to a player they wanted, and believe me Madrid really wanted Pogba, he's like the perfect 'Madrid Summer Signing'.
At the same time, I think the press here would heap pressure on him because of his fee and he'd be unable to live up to what would be expected of him.
At the same time, I think the press here would heap pressure on him because of his fee and he'd be unable to live up to what would be expected of him.
Juve may have asked us to stall the annoucement until they can recruit new players. It's not hard to imagine why it isn't being announced straight away. Look how long it took the club to announce Mkhityran, sometimes things take a little while to work out.
I just hope the delay is from juve trying to save face, as he is a fan favorite. I am much more confident than the previous sagas because with our new manager and signings we actually have an exciting project on our hands and the Jose/Woody partnership seems much more committed to quickly wrapping up transfer business than dilly dallying and hardball negotiating.
This year they have wanted
DDG
Pogba
Alaba
lewandowski
kante
And look like they're missing out on all of them. Madrid always getting their man is a myth
I'm starting to think we'll play a 4-3-3 next season. With Pogba at the top of the 3 in midfield.
He's instantly be our most creative player after Miki and maybe Martial, is good in tight spaces and has potential to grow even further. Furthermore his fee wouldnt be exorbitant.
Obviously he smells a disturbance in the force
No news is good news in this case.
Depends on how much they want that man
I have a feeling with all of those, they just think they can wrap it up non galatico style. If Madrid had really wanted DDG last year, and put a huge amount on the table, they would have got him, no doubt but they tought it would happen without even trying and there they were wrong.
Vidal was linked to United in 2014 summer. He went to Bayern in 2015 summer. We had little to no links with Vidal last summer. Last summer Vidal went to Bayern uncontested, or at least we weren't interested. Same with James, with whom we had few links this summer alone.
How do you know it isn't? Depay was one of the most rated youngsters in the world at the time and apparently PSG had agreed all terms before we swooped in the last minute.
Thiago also wasn't world class when he moved. He was a highly rated youngster like martial and depay albeit at a slightly higher level.
The point is every team has a saga and end up not signing players. And Pogba seems more than most of those as the more reliable sources say agreement exists. With Vidal most Italian sources were saying that we didn't bid.
Maybe we're waiting for sterling to recover!?
Not panicking. I'd like Pogba but have faith Mourinho will get alternatives if he wants them.
I'm dubious based on past experiences of trying to sign galacticos. There is evidence both ways if you look objectively. Di Marzio/ballague are positives. Raiola's comments can be seen as negatives. If you just focus on the reports you want to hear and write off the negatives it's confirmation bias.
When did he get hurt and what does he have to do with Pogba?
Where has woody been. Havent seen him anywhere, usually he is front and center of the signings . Hope we have him hunckered down in turin till an agreement is made
I don't buy into this angle of Pogba wants to go to Madrid because of how much he admires Zidane and wants to work under him. I suppose Pogba might admire Zidane and wants to work with him and Zidane wants him, but the problem is he cannot be absolutely certain that Zidane would be manager by the end of next season, leave alone over the course of his time there. Plus he might not be the main star there with CR7 and others who hog most of the limelight.
I am not saying we can guarantee that JM would be our manager for the next 5 or 10 years, but I am absolutely certain, we won't sack a manager because he didn't deliver a trophy only a year after a manager has won the CL or PL. With Rooney's popularity waning, a player like Pogba can be the face of a new era at United. When it comes to marketing and putting a player world over, we don't do that bad. He'll be front and center of everything United and he won't have to share the space with a mercurial talent like CR7. The fans would love him here and would be more patient with him, if he has a few bad days and he can really become a global phenomenon from his already recognized level.
I didn't like that quote from his agent about how he needs an "interesting project" or some such. As much as I agree that the results have not been great, we're still Manchester United!! A global juggernaut with millions of fans who follow us through thick and thin. He might help us win, as much as we might make him a global superstar of dizzying proportion. It is a mutually beneficial arrangement. When a player plays for United, he becomes a household name in millions of homes across the world. Barely 3 or 4 clubs in the world can guarantee that sort of exposure.
A move to us makes sense on different levels, not just an increase in weekly pay. The only question now is, does he want to move. If the answer is Yes, I think we'll land him. If not, well, there will always be another player who can step up and will perform for United.
P.S: I hope I didn't take this thread off topic with my two cents. I really don't want to be threadbanned as this thread and board has been my main source for United related news. Please delete the post if you feel I've strayed off topic. With this thread going in 10 different directions, I truly don't know what staying on topic means for this one. Thanks.
I am not saying we can guarantee that JM would be our manager for the next 5 or 10 years, but I am absolutely certain, we won't sack a manager because he didn't deliver a trophy only a year after a manager has won the CL or PL. With Rooney's popularity waning, a player like Pogba can be the face of a new era at United. When it comes to marketing and putting a player world over, we don't do that bad. He'll be front and center of everything United and he won't have to share the space with a mercurial talent like CR7. The fans would love him here and would be more patient with him, if he has a few bad days and he can really become a global phenomenon from his already recognized level.
I didn't like that quote from his agent about how he needs an "interesting project" or some such. As much as I agree that the results have not been great, we're still Manchester United!! A global juggernaut with millions of fans who follow us through thick and thin. He might help us win, as much as we might make him a global superstar of dizzying proportion. It is a mutually beneficial arrangement. When a player plays for United, he becomes a household name in millions of homes across the world. Barely 3 or 4 clubs in the world can guarantee that sort of exposure.
A move to us makes sense on different levels, not just an increase in weekly pay. The only question now is, does he want to move. If the answer is Yes, I think we'll land him. If not, well, there will always be another player who can step up and will perform for United.
P.S: I hope I didn't take this thread off topic with my two cents. I really don't want to be threadbanned as this thread and board has been my main source for United related news. Please delete the post if you feel I've strayed off topic. With this thread going in 10 different directions, I truly don't know what staying on topic means for this one. Thanks.
I think it will happen based on what we've seen so far - but I think that was said to pacify any 'slight' Juventus/fans might feel if he left them to play for us in the Europa League. There was that story where Ed wanted to know the best way to deal with Juventus - best way to engineer the move. I think that's what we've seen up to now. His agent could tell the truth, but he's muddying the water and confusing people on purpose by being obtuse and telling little white lies. United still have to be willing to pay the fee. I wouldn't fret about his agent. He's sly.
David Amoyal has written a price for ESPN where his opinion is that we have just a 30% chance of signing Pogba.
This is strange considering how close he is to Di Marzio.
This is strange considering how close he is to Di Marzio.
That we don't know. If that's the case though obviously we wont move on. I'm saying if I was Ed and they are stringing us along going into August I'd bail and go somewhere else. Give it 2 weeks then say here's the offer take it or leave it. If they're still hemming and hawing move on.
He's a great player but we can't get caught out again like we did with Ramos and Fiberglass.
30% is very low, I'm a bit surprised.
Yeah but if I remember right, he thought Pogba would stay at Juve.....if I'm remembering right - it would be earlier in thread. So not unexpected. Also he just pulled a number out of his butt. Means nothing. He worked out all by himself (we assume), that if he felt Pogba would stay at Juve, it would have to be a percentage under 50%. He's a smart guy...
According to Marca - Real's mouthpiece - we are his first choice and Real are his secons choice.
Shows the stupidity of some on here that declared he "clearly" wanted them first-choice based on zero evidence whatsoever.
Anyways, I think we are definitely getting him.
I have no doubts this will be done, but may take a little time to iron out the finer points of the negotiations (see: Zlatan).
Think he'll stay at Juventus.
People give up too easily! No news is good news I reckon, big transfers rarely go through quickly
@Acquire Me Anything new? Still confident he's coming?
How exactly is 'no news good news'? No news is good news for the side benefiting from the status quo. It makes no sense imo.
He's on important transfer business.
He's still on his plane from Australia, not been seen since
Those were the days. I do wonder who the hell he really was trying to sign. We tried to track his plane, and i swear to this day there was never any confirmation of his landing and where it was.
They'd have gotten De Gea but for their incompetence on deadline day last year, they could have triggered his release clause up until June too.
They'd have signed Kante if they really wanted him, same with Lewandowski who's flirted with them for the past two transfer windows, don't know about Alaba, they've got Marcelo at LB who's a fan favourite, not sure their interest was ever that serious.
Think Pogba was going to be their usual Summer 'Galactico' signing though, not many players in Europe at the moment bigger than Pogba.
Have we even made the bloody bid yet?