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Rooney's been here 30 years and only has a basic grasp of it, and I have no clue what language Harry Kane speaks.
He spent all summer trying to sign Wayne Rooney in 2013 and ended up playing with no strikers against us. Same with Stones last year. He was their big target, and was left with Cahill and Terry again. Mourinho has his targets, but its not a given he's got a plan B in his back pocket.
People in here need to distance themselves from this or set up camp and accept their in it for the long-run, as I predict this won't be concluded any time soon.
Have no fear, Poggy is ours.
Pretty sure this will be concluded fairly soon, either way. As we would need a bit of time to sign an alternative player or two.
I hope you're wrong. I'm having a harder time distancing myself from this than I did when I quit smoking
Whether we were interested or not, the point still remains. We haven't bought any elite, world class players for a good few years now and they always seem to end up at the other three clubs. And that is where my opinion about Pogba transfer stems from. If you think Depay helps your argument about us signing tier 'A' talent you surely haven't seen him play and to compare him with James/Kroos/Bale is utter madness. Just like Hazard is good but not Ronaldo good who is truly a global star. Pogba is the Ronaldo of midfield right now in terms of popularity and competition, and belongs to the category of select few players who are extremely sought after not the Depay category. And PSG? They aren't bigger than United, only rich. I was talking about Real/Barca/Bayern. PSG get the same second tier or rejects United do (Di Mara/Moura/Cavani). When I say second tier I do not mean not good enough, mind you. But not the best of the best. So them being in for Depay doesn't mean the same thing.
I am equally desperate for United to land Pogba and players of similar ilk/stature for a long time now. And so far I have been disappointed so excuse me of being wary of getting my hopes up at all. Let's stop trying to convince each other about this because none of us have any idea about our transfer dealings and what issues we face. All we have is our respective opinions and come the end of July, I think we will know whose opinion was better formed. I would be more than happy to be the one to be proven wrong.
You had earlier included Thiago who was just in the Depay tier when he moved. That is, one of the most promising talents in his position. Plus James was hardly world class and it could be argued he wasn't world class consistently for Madrid too. He was a talented attacker but at his best he wasn't any more effective than mata at his best. Madrid bought him simply because he had a good WC.
The point all through was that your earlier comment that this is a nothing rumour is clearly wrong. There's a good chance this will happen.
We will know by next week I reckon.
He didn't with Stones though. He ended up buying nobodies at the end of the window with no one else available
James is criminally underrated on here! He was absolute quality for Porto, and absolute quality for Monaco (comfortably their best player).
James was signed when Madrid didn't need him (Isco), so I would not put it past Madrid to sign Pogba when they also clearly do not need him. Fortunately it looks like it's either United or Juve for Pogba this season.
Up until the end of July is my bet. I don't think there will be much this week or the week after. Transfers like this one ain't easy.
Are you sure that Mourinho wanted them? As little as he used someone like Papy i'm under the impression that the board forced them on him. Didn't the media report last minute bids for Marquinhos?
If i remember correctly, Mourinho stated that Costa wasn't available in his first year MK2, so he had to wait and guess what? He could convince the board and at the end of the day it was the right call, imo.
Now Jose is captain of the Manchester United ship, i suspect that he's got the power, so stop gaps like Papy won't happen, either he thinks the player is the real deal or we stay put.
Yeah it seems that maybe we have agreed everything and are keeping it quiet do juventus can complete some deals without being ripped off. Hopefully it means we got pogba on the cheap.Juve have signed Benatia, Pjanic and apparently want Gabigol and Matic too. Somehow they've suddenly got a big pot of cash from somewhere
Yes. It's out of love for his client that he's pricing Real out of the bidding by slapping a €25m agents' fee on top of the transfer fee. Definitely.
I never said he was shit.I said he wasn't better than Mata before United, who was top draw at Valencia and Chelsea too.
Of course he didn't want him. The point I was making is that he chased after Stones far too late and by then he couldn't buy a decent enough alternative. It was in response to the 'mourinho isn't Moyes he will know when to leave a player and find another'
I agree with people saying Jose won't want for it to drag out. But this seems to be moving very slowly - reminds me of a lot of the bumper transfer sagas this forum has suffered through.
It's moved "slowly" because he was at the Euros. It's effectively only begun on Monday. If Pogba gave the nod then wheels may be turning, but this is still going to take time, especially with figures this astronomical.
I think it only appears to be moving slowly because its in the press. In reality, it could be moving at a completely normal pace given the circumstances (Pogba on holiday, Juve and United have barely communicated about a fee etc).
I think If he's coming it will happen the first week after his hols.
You should read Zlatans book and his family's opinion about Mino Raiola. Quite different from yours.
You probably judge him by his comments in the media and maybe Sir Alex opinion.
Maybe our former manager didn't like a agent who questioned his authority, who challenged his handling and deiced against the old Godfather. Maybe young Paul Pogba, and his family, finded Raiola's advises wise and good for their sons future. Never thought about that?
Zlatan speaks extremely highly of his agent. He sees him as a family member, one of his best friends and a person he trust 100% 24/7. That should tell you something because Ibrahimovic isn't exactly an idiot, probably the opposite.
Btw. Tell us a transfer when Raiola has damaged his clients carrier or made a bad judgement. I'm no expert but I only hear good things from his clients about this guy. Why?
That is a load of bollocks btw...he gets nothing from the transfer by way of a fee, because he owns part of the players registration, so his fee comes from that...
Don't forget to add James's first season with Madrid to that list. Under Ancelotti he looked like a world beater to me, scored massive and spectacular goals! He's the perfect number 10, comes across a bit like a second striker. He enables a more vertically style of play. Attacking!
Isco is a different type of baller in my eyes: more of a playmaker and not so direct, shifts the ball out wide, so brings width to the table. I think Isco and James can accomodate each other, there was a time under Ancelotti where he fielded the both of them and the football was out of this world. Some fans are still in wonderland...
Mata isn't fit to lace James's boots, but the impression what it's like to have a number 10 in the squad is already there. Someone like Pogba (who isn't perfect for the record) would be a better fit. Pogba can actually defend, so no babysitter(s) needed and with a 4-3-3 the team is more compact.
But now that's going too far, James is an exceptional talent and one could do worse than signing him, still, bring on the Pog! There's always a benefit, learning spanish myself and it's a good practice to listen to him.
I'll wait until I hear Paul say "I'm not leaving Juventus"
or Juventus say "He's not leaving"
This whole circle jerk non-commital screams that he's...
1. Coming to Manchester
Or
2. Leading Manchester along by the nose with no intention of joining
Hopefully it's number 1 because I don't need another player on my Neymar shite list.
Here in the states we have this NBA player named Kevin Durant. Paul is reminding me of how Kevin just handled his move to the Golden State Warriors.
or Juventus say "He's not leaving"
This whole circle jerk non-commital screams that he's...
1. Coming to Manchester
Or
2. Leading Manchester along by the nose with no intention of joining
Hopefully it's number 1 because I don't need another player on my Neymar shite list.
Here in the states we have this NBA player named Kevin Durant. Paul is reminding me of how Kevin just handled his move to the Golden State Warriors.
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I've not looked in here for a while so apologies if this has been covered but this is apparently the translation of his comments.
Not only has it been covered, it's been meticulously analysed, dissected and conclusions have been drawn.
He's obviously coming!
I genuinely think we'll get him if we pay up. Juventus are a great club but their league is pretty poor these days.
I think most players there would be happy to jump ship to a league with greater exposure, greater competition and greater wages.
I think most players there would be happy to jump ship to a league with greater exposure, greater competition and greater wages.
I thought they put it to him about Mou potentially calling?
I know this is going very off topic but what was Madrids XI when they played James and Isco.Don't forget to add James's first season with Madrid to that list. Under Ancelotti he looked like a world beater to me, scored massive and spectacular goals! He's the perfect number 10, comes across a bit like a second striker. He enables a more vertically style of play. Attacking!
Isco is a different type of baller in my eyes: more of a playmaker and not so direct, shifts the ball out wide, so brings width to the table. I think Isco and James can accomodate each other, there was a time under Ancelotti where he fielded the both of them and the football was out of this world. Some fans are still in wonderland...
Mata isn't fit to lace James's boots, but the impression what it's like to have a number 10 in the squad is already there. Someone like Pogba (who isn't perfect for the record) would be a better fit. Pogba can actually defend, so no babysitter(s) needed and with a 4-3-3 the team is more compact.
But now that's going too far, James is an exceptional talent and one could do worse than signing him, still, bring on the Pog! There's always a benefit, learning spanish myself and it's a good practice to listen to him.
Regarding Pogba, my gut instinct is that we'll get Poggy, way too much smoke for there not to be some sort of fire. Zlatan dinning with Pogba for me is massive, why would Zlatan go and dine with Paul and his family? He wouldn't of done that if he was still at PSG..
Someone has told him to either persuade/Convince him about our 'Project' or get to know him because he's going to be your new teammate. Either way they were definitely talking about United. Zlatan is over 10 years older than Paul so they wouldn't just hang out. Zlatan has been sent to do it by either someone high up in United or Zlatan being Zlatan wanting the best for his current team. I personally think he has been put up to it. What do other people think about it? Or am I looking way too far into it!
This thread has me going mad! I'll be imagining Pogba with Mourinho, Woodward, @Kevin and @GlastonSpur all in China posing in our new kits next..
This thread still hasn't reached Thiago or Vidal level of muppetry.
Chilevision, a tweet by him where he declares he loves Torino, and a thread title similar to "the writing is on the ball" is still missing.
Chilevision, a tweet by him where he declares he loves Torino, and a thread title similar to "the writing is on the ball" is still missing.
Maybe he's learned from past mistakes ?
I dunno. A random chef going all out ITK on Instagram is fairly out there.
Chilevision!
Man those were the days.
Personally, I feel as though we already have the Pog transfer more or less locked up.
He will be ours before the month is up.
surely the Juventuz vs redcafe wars, chef Bobby Chin and Epsy award muppetry has put this thread in amongst the elites
I put this into Google translate: It said:
I'm really pretending to be serious about signing for United for a stupid fee, so Madrid need to up their offer and stop thinking they can get me a lot cheaper by holding out, although the truth is they probably can and will.
I'm really pretending to be serious about signing for United for a stupid fee, so Madrid need to up their offer and stop thinking they can get me a lot cheaper by holding out, although the truth is they probably can and will.
It's been a fantastic thread with the ending we've been craving for years.
So, guys who love "something" shouldn't get paid? Not sure exactly what your argument here is?!
If you're good at something, you should get paid the maximum you can. Both Raiola and Pogba would get paid more at United than Real, according to reports!
imagine.
If we sign Pogba it would
a) stop Juve from selling Bonucci to city
b) stop Madrid from selling Kroos to city
c) stop Madrid from selling Morata to Chelsea
d) allow Juve to buy Higuain from Napoli instead of arsenal
that alone is worth the 100 million
If we sign Pogba it would
a) stop Juve from selling Bonucci to city
b) stop Madrid from selling Kroos to city
c) stop Madrid from selling Morata to Chelsea
d) allow Juve to buy Higuain from Napoli instead of arsenal
that alone is worth the 100 million