Hans Moleman
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Sometimes you need a bit of imagination. He IS required and if we get him - he will provide a lot of quality through the middle. Who say's we would sell him? Some people care too much about image. United know the player he is. Who cares about them other clubs - if we're on the up and up we could easily retain him. IF he performs well and we choose to sell, we make a profit. That said IF we get him, we shouldn't think to sell.... And should he need time to bed in then stick will come but then Jose would know how to protect the players from the negativity.
You should change your name to GlassHalfFullKing
In 3 years time the ability of non PL teams to take the best players from the PL will be pretty impossible for me. Spanish football presidents have already said the same. The fact even now Real cannot finance the deal ahead of a United team that finished 5th suggests it's already happening......
In what world is a world class midfielder not required at United?
And if he stays for three years and is such a success that Madrid or Barca come calling then we'll have got three great years and a tidy profit I'd imagine.
Not required at United??? Seriously?? I have no idea what his real value is but if anyone looks at this team and thinks Pogba wouldn't improve it then I just don't know what you're seeing.
Ultimately the club will pay the going rate and in this day and age of inflated transfers then Pogba will go for around £100m, yes we all know it's a ridiculous fee but that's football these days, every season the fees get higher, do you think you could get Bale or anyone of the same standing for less?? No chance at all.
And if he has 3/4 good seasons and Barca or Real come knocking then I guarantee he'll be sold at a profit, guarantee it.
Lets only buy average players with no potential. That should safeguard us from Real Madrid and Barcelona.
How is he not required? We have no cms who should actually be starting this season currently. Even if we sign Pogba our starters would almost certainly be him and Carrick. I don't think many would say Carrick should still be first choice at this stage in his career. Because of how poor our current options are, he's worth overpaying on. If he helps us to 3 Premier League titles and other trophies I really couldn't care less if he's subsequently sold to Real or Barcelona.
You don't have to spend 100m for world class potential that's all people are saying. Sanchez is that and younger and went for a fee we didn't fancy. Pogba is further ahead of that curve ok but no club has ever spent near that for what pogba is and infact for the finished product. Saying football has changed, no we are changing it massively ourselves just by doing this. I still want him though but it's just an outlay not essential at all really for other top talent.
What an avalanche of messages
It's not that he is not a good player. I think with Herrera, Schneiderlin, Bastian, Carrick, Blind , who can play there and perform quite well. You do not need to break the bank for a player of Pogba's quality. Plus he is not really world class yet in my opinion. You are buying potential for 100 + million.
Herrera will be a star player this season for United. Him and Schneiderlin should be the first choice midfielders.
Im surprised this thread hasnt blown up yet. This is big news
Well, it's better than debating whether or not we are excited.He's good enough
He's not good enough
He's good though
He's not good enough for the fee
On and on it goes.
So basically... time to get cocks out?Yeah, his sentiments about the running of the club aside, he's normally fairly clued up. His absolute confidence in the matter probably adds stock to his assertion, I'd say.
I generally don't understand the anti-Pogba logic either. He's one of the best young players in the world and we are preparing for an assault on the league and the CL the following year. Why wouldn't we want a Paul Pogba who is just entering his prime career years to be a central part of that. Its a fairly easy choice.
I mean it could just be putting two and two together after Juventus going big on Higuain.
Sanchez has only played half a season so thatbis even a bigger risk but i would still have taken a gamble on him (not my money to gamble with) but by your reckoning if he played we real/barca would just buy him so whats the point.You don't have to spend 100m for world class potential that's all people are saying. Sanchez is that and younger and went for a fee we didn't fancy. Pogba is further ahead of that curve ok but no club has ever spent near that for what pogba is and infact for the finished product. Saying football has changed, no we are changing it massively ourselves just by doing this. I still want him though but it's just an outlay not essential at all really for other top talent.
What an avalanche of messages
It's not that he is not a good player. I think with Herrera, Schneiderlin, Bastian, Carrick, Blind , who can play there and perform quite well. You do not need to break the bank for a player of Pogba's quality. Plus he is not really world class yet in my opinion. You are buying potential for 100 + million.
Herrera will be a star player this season for United. Him and Schneiderlin should be the first choice midfielders.
How reliable?
I am not anti pogba but understand the sentiment. A lot of us don't have time to watch Juventus all the time. We have only seen pogba in the Euros and stuff. For the people that are against him, they also think for this fee we should be getting someone like a Suarez or a Neymar.
I am all for Pogba because I've seen his youtube highlights![]()
People are saying de Brun is realiable? Is it safe to whip it out again? Who am I kidding, it was never in.
All that money could stymie his development. Hell, if I won the lotto tonight I'd stop working.Being on an absolutely massive wage may soften the blow for the poor lad.
Philip Brown is very, very reliable. Knows few football agents that work for Gestefute. Mendes is brokering the deal for Paul Pogba, it is known. So I'd say he will know, if this is done!
Wouldn't mind seeing Pogba and Fabregas in our midfield next season. We'd fecking walk it.
All that money could stymie his development. Hell, if I won the lotto tonight I'd stop working.
Pogba's wealth has nothing to do with fulfilling his potential.
Here's the thing - money and talent are so closely linked in sport these days it's hard for a player to tell the difference. Just look at Ballon d'Or Bendtner.
Hopefully Pogba will sign and then silence the critics. But how successful do you need to be to silence the expectation that £100 mil brings?
Yeah, his sentiments about the running of the club aside, he's normally fairly clued up. His absolute confidence in the matter probably adds stock to his assertion, I'd say.
For reasons I don't remember right now, this de brun guy was banned in twitter thread a season or two ago. Many though believe he is reliable with contacts at club.
Philip Brown is very, very reliable. Knows few football agents that work for Gestefute. Mendes is brokering the deal for Paul Pogba, it is known. So I'd say he will know, if this is done!
Wouldn't mind seeing Pogba and Fabregas in our midfield next season. We'd fecking walk it.
Pilib de Brún @Malachians 31m31 minutes ago Anaheim, CA
@Barittah7 mate listen, i'm not an ITK, occasionally I tweet about Utd transfer info that gets given to me. Up to u what you make of it.
Good Periscope from de Brun so far.
Odds now FWIW:
Move to united 1.57
Remain at Juve 2.25
This is a slight drift as I put on Pogba to stay at midday yesterday at 2.75
I feel this is worth posting as, although they have their own ulterior motives, bookies are generally the most ITK people around
What is he saying? I can barely tell with that accent.
Well seems he's sure about it.
I mean it could just be putting two and two together after Juventus going big on Higuain.
Why would Mendes(Gestefute) broker the deal tho?He told himself via PM, on Twitter, about Mou joining and where he got the info. I'm just putting two and two together now, assuming that he must got that info from the same source (Gestefute).