I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now if we had
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I think he still hasn't posted on Instagram so I believe he's waiting to post something big like zlatan did, we are more than likely waiting for Higuain to go through so it takes the heat off Pogba leaving and they will both be announced at the same time.
This way Juve fans can be happy with a new signing and not worry about the price because they know they have £100m + from us.
This way Juve fans can be happy with a new signing and not worry about the price because they know they have £100m + from us.
Maybe Tancredi is right with his #145 thing. 120m for Juventus, 25m for Raiola.
You're a real sunshine arent you?
Di Marzio LITERALLY SAID It’s a remote possibility that Pogba stays in Turin.
Di Marzio's latest article is essentially a rehash of his earlier claims and verifying that Higuain's sale is not DEPENDENT on pogba being sold.
I feel like i'm in the fecking twilight zone.
Do not lose heart muppets.
You all give way too much credit to Di Marzio, he is wrong so often, just like the other day when he tweeted gomes juve links only for barca to tweet they had signed him 45 seconds later.
Ed being in china doesn't mean a lot, he is probably just there for the city game tomorrow and then straight back to Manchester.
Ed being in china doesn't mean a lot, he is probably just there for the city game tomorrow and then straight back to Manchester.
Wouldn't it be much more logical Juve would be waiting for the Pogba deal before they conlude the Higuain deal ?
I mean in the logical order of first making sure you have bank guarantees for €120m+ before spending €94m on Higuain.
Can someone please thread ban ehsanul? He's fecking demented. Ignores any good news and posts the crap. It's surprising, he used to be a real muppet before, and who could forget his Anderson Not Allowed rant a few years ago?
I think quite a few have come to the conclusion that this is done barring a few little details and Juve is just posturing until they get Higuain done.
It's a case of patience and waiting now
Someone replying "confirmation that the deal is off"
Putting it another way, if Juventus buy Higuain and don't sell Pogba, they'll be in administration very soon.
It's done.
It's done.
Wish there is a way for me to send this thread in full meltdown without getting banned.
To me that sounds like both deals are unrelated then, how strange it may seem.
i don't think it'd put them into administration, but it'd seriously limit their transfer dealings in the future unless they got great prices on some of their lesser players
Your wish is ban worthy too
I promised not to delve into this issue so I won't do that. Let's say that Pogba and juve won, United lost and most of that was thanks to mino. He deserves his cut
Di Marzio Yesterday
DEFINE the DETAILS of the agreement = THE FEE TO BE DETERMINED
Di Marzio Today
What Di Marzio reported is only a continuation of what we knew hours ago.
For the sake of my sanity at 8pm on a Sunday night, i hope most people are in agreement with me
DEFINE the DETAILS of the agreement = THE FEE TO BE DETERMINED
Di Marzio Today
What Di Marzio reported is only a continuation of what we knew hours ago.
For the sake of my sanity at 8pm on a Sunday night, i hope most people are in agreement with me
Juventus have sold Morata for €30 million and spent €32 million Pjanic, €23 million on Pjaca, €4 million on Benatia with option to buy at €20 million for next year and now they have decided to pay Higuain's release clause which is €94 million. Are folks really naive to believe that Juve can afford to spend this kind of money without selling? Zaza's and Pererya's won't reduce their net spend significantly which would be over €120 million.
Pogba is going to be sold and we need to be patient, Madrid can't afford to pay the fee and it's up to us to come to terms with Juve however long that may take. Only worrying part is if we've met Juve's valuation and now they've backpedalled on it and want more.
Pogba is going to be sold and we need to be patient, Madrid can't afford to pay the fee and it's up to us to come to terms with Juve however long that may take. Only worrying part is if we've met Juve's valuation and now they've backpedalled on it and want more.
No chance, don't believe that for one second.
No.
They have good players that we can continue to poach.
We didn't make it easy for Madrid when they wanted to sign DE Gea or even Ronaldo (they had to pay the entire fee upfront). Why should Juve lie down for us?
This is the biggest transfer of the Summer.
Probably the highest transfer fee in history.
Pogba will become one of our most important players for years to come.
There will be no days off. There will be no rest until Pogba is signed OR Juve conclude that they are keeping him!!!
Can only assume Moyes has hijacked the deal and he's off to Wearside.
I'd imagine that the sticking point is the same as it was two days ago - The 20% fee agreed between Juve & Raiola - and not Juve wanting even more money, as some are now believing. It's clear that all parties have split, likely to reevaluate their position on the matter. Ed back with the club. Raiola with his client.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us hash out a deal with Raiola whereby he forgoes this 20% for the time being to get the transfer done and then makes it back from us at some point.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us hash out a deal with Raiola whereby he forgoes this 20% for the time being to get the transfer done and then makes it back from us at some point.
This thread is going nowhere fast. Juve are going to have to reduce their demands to see this one through and i dont think they'll be in any rush to do so, if at all. Then it depdnds how desperate we are.
Juventus isn't going to go in administration because they spend €94m
They are an economical club that doesn't spend money they don't have to spend but they are a very healthy club, in the CL every year, winning the title every year, never spend that much in the market, don't have silly wages on their books, they might not have monster deals like we do with Chevy and Addidas but they do have sponsors and do actually make quite alot of money from them. I'am sure they have more financial reserves than €94m to prevent them for going into administration and if not Italy's most afluent industrial family, the Agneli's would prevent it from happening anyway.
If they announce Higuain before Pogba deal is sealed then they don't need to sell him without going into administration. That is not to say they won't sell him, because as I said they are a very economical club that doesn't spend all their cash just like that but it is a mile away from putting yourself in a position of possible administration
Juve are playing hard to get so the fanbase doesnt get pissed off. Deals done.
Some of you folks need to chill
Some of you folks need to chill
Transfer fees and wages are amortised over the length of the contract. (Transfer fee + wages)/contract length = yearly cost for the player. It doesn't have any bearing on the Pogba sale.
I love this thread
Just saw Juventus busking in town centre. #skint
I know these things get amortized, what does that have to do with being linked with Pogba or not ?
Me too. Ed walked past and burned a £50 note in front of them and walked away laughing.
Juventus isn't going to go in administration because they spend €94m
They are an economical club that doesn't spend money they don't have to spend but they are a very healthy club, in the CL every year, winning the title every year, never spend that much in the market, don't have silly wages on their books, they might not have monster deals like we do with Chevy and Addidas but they do have sponsors and do actually make quite alot of money from them. I'am sure they have more financial reserves than €94m to prevent them for going into administration and if not Italy's most afluent industrial family, the Agneli's would prevent it from happening anyway.
If they announce Higuain before Pogba deal is sealed then they don't need to sell him without going into administration. That is not to say they won't sell him, because as I said they are a very economical club that doesn't spend all their cash just like that but it is a mile away from putting yourself in a position of possible administration
They are healthy in the context of Italian football clubs but still operated at about a £5m loss in 2014/15 which was hugely successful financial year for them. They are stable but not 'very healthy' by any means.
if this deal doesn't actually go through
God you just don't know what to believe do you. I think Juve just don't want to sell and thats why they are making it as difficult as they can.
I'm losing patience to even care anymore to be honest.
I'm losing patience to even care anymore to be honest.
They've had one run in Europe over the last 12 odd years. This CL / Juve talk is nonsense.
It's not linked to Pogba because Juventus can afford to spend 23.5m on a player every year, they don't need the sell of Pogba to finance that.
You asked whether it was more logical for Juve to wait for the Pogba deal to be concluded or not. To which I responded, paraphrasing, that is shouldn't have any connection to how the Pogba negotiations go because Juventus have the money to amortise Higuain's deal.
What you are saying is FFP calculation.
How much club pays upfront and in how many installments depends on the clubs. For example, if what Di Marzio said is correct then Juve will pay 47 Million this year and 47 million next year.
Woody in China and Raiola in America.
It's either done deal or break down.
50 : 50 I guess
It's either done deal or break down.
50 : 50 I guess