Well he might tell him his career plans, knowing no one would believe the guy because well why would Paul Pogba tell some stranger in Miami which club he's going to next..lol
Most likely a bullshitter though.
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Well he might tell him his career plans, knowing no one would believe the guy because well why would Paul Pogba tell some stranger in Miami which club he's going to next..lol
Most likely a bullshitter though.
Those Twitters journalists wannabes need to be more creative now. Instead of a picture with a time stamp and a geolocation, they also need a recorded video shot where they ask "Paul, what's going on? You're staying at Juventus, your family, or what?" And then Paul replies "No mate, I am going back to United, my first family, we are waiting for the marketing to be ready before announcing it, I already signed the contacts", or something like that. Only then they should be allowed to publish their stuff, really. What's that random picture anyway?
Same here. Worst case scenario would be that we're so paralysed by trying to land Pogba that we miss out on other targets. But hopefully that's not the case, and there is actually some sort of clarification to the whole situation behind the scenes.
But am I the only one who thinks that the deal is less and less likely for every day that passes by? Surely it can't be that hard to just finalise the deal and move on. And it also seems like Mourinho would want it to be over with as fast as possible. And I don't buy the whole "Tottenham did the same thing with Bale to wrap up replacements" thing. Other teams dealing with Juventus would surely know it if Pogba was going?
Also, it doesn't make sense that we are waiting for Higuain to be announced first? The logical thing would be to sell Pogba first and then sign/announce Higuain to do damage control/please the fans. The other way around makes no sense. "Let's sign Higuain and please the fans, and then, just when they're happy, let's announce that Pogba's leaving"...
Well, after Wednesday we would have shared 26.
I still don't think Pogba is staying at Juventus. He's definitely leaving IMO.
The worst case scenario is him heading off to Real which may mean we buy James. But logically everything points to Real being out.
That said, if there's nothing new this week, I'll begin to doubt.
The worst case scenario is him heading off to Real which may mean we buy James. But logically everything points to Real being out.
That said, if there's nothing new this week, I'll begin to doubt.
Real will need a loan to finance Pogba's move. That loan is not happening this time apparently, the Spanish prosecution is all over them with those stories of Real benefiting from some political pressure on banks to give them loans.
@carvajal can you give your insight on that matter?
Scholes is right. Lets stop this madness now. We have it in our power to do so.
Jose proved with Mata at Chelsea that if you don't perform how he wants/to the level he wants you won't make the team whoever you are. I'd like to see Rooney prove us all wrong and earn a place in the lineup, but I won't be putting any money on it and if he's against pog/mata for a #10 role or ibra/martial for a #9 then I don't think he stands a chance.
But then we can't be spending £300k/week on a bench warming captain and we do know Jose used to admire rooney.
Real don't need politicians to have loans.
I mentioned the same (Madrid being the ultimate destination) as few weeks ago and got totally shot down for it. Sometimes feels like Pogba's not bothered about us but he must have given us some encouragement for us to make these huge offers. If he was really enthusiastic about us he'd be cutting short his holiday and be looking to get started with us. If he does go to Madrid he wins as he'll play off our wage offer against theirs. Also, Juve win as Real now know that £100m or whatever is the minimum.
I'd love him to return but I'm not convinced he wants to.
Off to Madrid
Why would Real need political support to get a loan?
They are a cash generating business, with multiple international recognised brands and growing revenues - they would get a loan quicker than you and I could borrow some cash from our best mates.
Moreover, I'm pretty sure they won't even need a loan to finance this Pogba deal. They just don't need/want to pay Juve this tremendous fee + pay Raiolas cut as they are not in need for Pogba. So they're playing hardball like they always do and hope that the player will force a move, thus, enhancing their negotiation power.
Maybe Woodward trying to save face with James. Unlikely though. I don't see it happening.
Can people stop spouting the shite that he doesn't want to come back here and we are forcing him. If Pogba comes here then it's because he believes we are a huge club with a very enticing project spearheaded by the best manager in football. If he had the option to go to Madrid I think he might choose them but that option doesn't exist and he clearly would prefer to play for Utd over Juve which is a big statement in itself. In terms of him leaving down the line, if Utd get back to winning ways on the pitch in the next couple of years, players like Pogba won't be going anywhere.
I really hope Pogba reads redcafe
Just think though Jose can tell all prospective signings what a scumbag club Madrid is, he knows there inner workings, so after Jose has had a word in Pauls ear, any notion of joining Real would be put to bed ( hopefully ).
No one is guaranteed any starts. But do you think that Jose will start the season with Rooney on bench, when he cleared that Rooney is the captain and Rooney himself told the world that Jose has asked him to play No 10 and he is training only in that position.
One article from Marca or AS turns this place into an online version of Cornation Street. This is a done deal weeks ago. If this wasn't going ahead we would have moved onto other targets. You'd see us linked to other players, making bids etc. Do any of you see that? No. Why? Because we basically have Pogba wrapped up. We will possibly sign another defender and maybe a 'surprise' signing, but other than that it's all Pogba. World record bids are not done fast. A club like Juve will always try and save face for the fans. They are spending the Pogba money all over the place and a lot of muppets in here are still getting their knickers in a twist 
Real won't pay the money, we will. No player is going to turn down that kind of prestige, especially someone like Pogba. I'll come back to this thread once it's more or less official. The muppet is strong here the last 80-100 pages. Chill.
Real won't pay the money, we will. No player is going to turn down that kind of prestige, especially someone like Pogba. I'll come back to this thread once it's more or less official. The muppet is strong here the last 80-100 pages. Chill.
What has become almost a certainty is that if we don't sign Pogba it will be near impossible for us to sign a good midfielder this summer as most have moved on already: Pjanic, Sanches, Gomes, Kante, basically all the ones we have been linked with and we'd consider as a good addition have moved on to other clubs already so if we don't get Pogba we will basically be left empty handed in a key area we needed to strenghten. Not to mention we will look like giant knobheads with egg on our face all over again after all the Pogba boasting.
If we don't sign him at this point it will be a disaster for us
If we don't sign him at this point it will be a disaster for us
I'm using one of my five posts to congratulate whichever Mod has updated the threads title
I'd imagine this will be Jose starting XI for the start of the season:
------------------DDG----------------------
Valencia----Bailly----Smalling-----Shaw
-------Schneiderlin-----Pogba-----------
Mkhitaryan----Rooney-------Martial----
--------------Ibrahimovic---------------
A disaster? Are you kidding? A disaster would be getting relegated, or our entire squad disappearing through a black hole (actually I wouldn't mind half of them disappearing tbf), or the club going backrupt, or rehiring David Moyes, or hiring Louis van Gaal, or hiring Brendan Rodgers.
Not managing to sign a player who would cost us at least €120m wouldn't be a disaster, for feck sake.
Rooney, Schneiderlin and Valencia the weak links there.
I'm hopeful Mourinho will get a lot more out of Schneiderlin.....
Need an experienced CB as well
Agreed.
Pogba left because he couldn't get in the team. He has a point to prove, has family in the area, friends who he played with from a young age, he's going to triple his wages alongside all of the other benefits of playing for one of the globes biggest clubs under arguably the best manager of his era with a project that's designed to make this club one of the most competitive in Europe again! Not only all of that but United backtracking proved him right all along and he will undoubtedly be the highest profile player in the team and possibly the face of United for years to come.
At Madrid he's just another galactico who isn't guaranteed a starting place who it has been widely reported don't rate him as highly as we do anyway.
I know what decision I would make, United fan or not.
Are some of you totally clueless about business and deals in particular?
How much proof do you need to calm down. Let me tell you.
- silence since agent left Turin from all involved parties after weeks of media talks and speculations
- agent and client spend holyday together in Miami
- our CEO heading to China and then back to UK with a big smile on his face
- Juventus tries to sign a 28 year old ex Real Madrid player for nearly €100m
- Spanish papers writing totally crazy rumors about secret talks (and some of you believe this)
- Mourinho is calm as an ice cube and in no hurry to sign other targets (explain that)
- all reliable journos, serious Italian/French/English newspaper says is a done deal
- a minority of Redcafe is having a nervous meltdown and some poster starts to resign
Thanks for getting an old man upset and irritated, my heart needed that.
How much proof do you need to calm down. Let me tell you.
- silence since agent left Turin from all involved parties after weeks of media talks and speculations
- agent and client spend holyday together in Miami
- our CEO heading to China and then back to UK with a big smile on his face
- Juventus tries to sign a 28 year old ex Real Madrid player for nearly €100m
- Spanish papers writing totally crazy rumors about secret talks (and some of you believe this)
- Mourinho is calm as an ice cube and in no hurry to sign other targets (explain that)
- all reliable journos, serious Italian/French/English newspaper says is a done deal
- a minority of Redcafe is having a nervous meltdown and some poster starts to resign
Thanks for getting an old man upset and irritated, my heart needed that.
An enticing project? An enticing paycheck really. Coming to United because Madrid is not an option is not really what I want to hear.
Why are people posting in a thread to say that they're bored of the thread?
If he sees toni as our best right back over darmian then he must be in the market for another one. He was good as a makeshift, but he just isn't as good as we require defensively, and we all know Jose likes defence.
If it does not happen , so we tried to sign a WC player for a WR fee and did did not come off, just how would that be a disaster?
The boasting has all been on here , Jose and the club have not boated anything, both of said they would like the player at the right price.
It wouldn't have been a disaster not to get Pogba at the start of the summer but after verything that has transpired not getting him would be very humiliating for the club.
On top of that as I said in my post, there really aren't any viable alternatives left on the market, we have let them all go to other clubs whilst betting all our money on Pogba if we don't get him now we will be starting the season with a shite midfield whilst our most important competitors will have strenghtend theirs, City with Gundogan, Chelsea with Kante, Arsenal with Xhaka. I don't see who is left on the market United can sign if we don't get Pogba.
Well that seals it then doesn't it.
Next time Ed laughs it clearly means we've signed Neymar.
And all over the media
Would it be enough though? Obviously LVG was poor at getting much out of Schneiderlin, but that's no excuse for not being able to pass from A to B across the pitch. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for our starting 11.
25,000 posts of nothing! :-)
Seriously, get a grip. Not getting him because Juve have been unreasonable on the fee or Raiola's fee is too enormous or Pogba has changed his mind is in no way a disaster or humiliating for us.
Your logic is mental. "oh it wouldn't have been a disaster if we never never for him, but because we did, now it's a disaster"