Yep, if he had anything concrete he would have broke it. Just more speculation and opinions. Listen to him if you are an aspiring journo and want tips on how to keep your followers interested.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Sound logic if you ask me. Woodward have been dying for a marquee signing since he took over, and he's certainly not going to let the transfer of the century go to shit over an agent fee imo.
I don't think it's about been skint. It's about can they afford a 90M Euro player without significant sales to compensate.
Tuned in late but said something about Jose started working on this 6 months ago and wanted to keep it quiet due to LVG.
Don't believe Spanish press, they have their agenda. blah blah blah.
Still thinks it will be done, just United and Juve posturing over Raiola fee.
Pogba is Juve's best player and they don't want to appear that they're just rolling over for money.
If United don't sign Pogba, and fail this season, Woodward's head should be on a stick.
Nothing factual, all speculation and opinion.
Transfer of the century? Have a word
They are trying to run it like a viable business. They don't have to, they could pump their own money into the club like City or PSG but it would be a complete change in approach for them. They are €188m in debt they make almost nothing currently in operating profit so the money would have to come from outside the club or from it's assets.
Ok thanks
Call L'Equipe and tell them that.
How awful it would be if we went through all this, we got him and he turned out to be shite in the Premier League 
Pilib De Brun also said that he thinks IF we fail to land Pogba and fail to qualify for CL this season, Woodward will be sacked seeing as he has had such a huge transfer kitty yet failed to make the make the most of it.
I'm always on the 'not really my money, who cares' side of the argument when it comes to paying exorbitant fees for players, but even I don't think United should given in to Juve's demands anymore. If the likes of Di Marzio etc are to be believed, then Juve should keep their end of the deal up and pay Raiolo's cut themselves out of their pockets as was agreed upon by them and the agent. If United gives in to this, will set a horrible precedent for transfers. A firm 'take it or leave it' offer now should be it, and if not, United should walk away.. It isn't the amount that is now the issue, it is just the principle of the deal and how Juve is acting by not paying up what they promised Raiola. We should set an ultimatum, take it or leave it, and walk away.
I feel we hold all the cards in this deal now. After spending all that on Higuain, If United threaten to walk away, Juve will be at the risk of ending up with a massive loss in their transfer dealings for the summer, as well as an unhappy player in Pogba in their squad who was denied a massive windfall of cash cause they didn't stick to their word with his agent. Let's see what happens then...
I feel we hold all the cards in this deal now. After spending all that on Higuain, If United threaten to walk away, Juve will be at the risk of ending up with a massive loss in their transfer dealings for the summer, as well as an unhappy player in Pogba in their squad who was denied a massive windfall of cash cause they didn't stick to their word with his agent. Let's see what happens then...
Agreed, the sentence is more like "We will see, at this moment everything is blocked".
Which confirms previous talks but also the fact that it's not moving forward.
its 2016 it will be
I must be mistaken, there have obviously been several other 100m pound transfers during the last few years!
If the transfer goes through, of course it's the transfer of the century until someone else can cough out more than 120M Euros.
Casting my mind back I do remember laughing a good deal more while the Vidal thread was going on compared to this time around. Chef 'Progba' going all ITK on Instagram was amusing but really this is one of few highlights in contrast to the Nigerian rapper/DJ/performer at Arturo's sister's wedding (who the hell knows what he was), Chilevision and Agent Equaliser (Raiola's a complete joy-killer in comparison).
It's true the spam-posting certainly hasn't helped in this thread with two particular individuals doing their very best Chuckle Brothers routine pretty much since the rumours first started.
All that being said the Vidal thread (as entertaining as it was for a while) did die a slow lingering death and really stopped being fun long before it became painfully apparent he wasn't leaving Juve. Having had a chance to participate directly in this thread, whereas during the Vidal saga I was still in the Newbies, I hope this one at least concludes on a much more positive note!
From their point of view i'm also guessing they can sell Pogba next season for a similar fee to Madrid. Meaning they will recover their losses then instead of now. Suits them more aswell because they get to have one last run at the Champions League with him in addition to the excellent signings they have made.
We seriously need to have our heads checked if we pay THAT agent £25m. So many talented players signed for less, feckin Suarez was only £21m a few years ago. That fat f*ck would cost more than most Prem teams record signing, just insane
84 more years to go cant judge it yet, plus Ronaldo was a bigger transfer in terms of the player.
Why Mourinho?
Anyone else starting to feel a little annoyed over how long this is taking? I know its the biggest transfer in football history, but its starting to get a bit tedious.
How awful it would be if we went through all this, we got him and he turned out to be shite in the Premier League
very much possible.
Yes. We have to pay. Even if they ask 200m. Pay and get Pogba. I don't care how much we pay in transfer fee, agent fee and wages. Whatever it takes to get Pogba.
Juventus have to pay 45 mil this year in cash.
Very few businesses can do that . People undersestimate that from a cashflow perspective. Cash is king for a reason. So there have to getting cash elsewhere.
We know how it feels. Di Maria was an insane transfer and he was shite.How awful it would be if we went through all this, we got him and he turned out to be shite in the Premier League
Let's sell United then. Whatever it takes!
They're not skint but their biggest purchase in the last 15 years was €32m and their recent record of profit making is not very good per:
According to the Deloitte Football Money League, a research published by consultants Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu on 17 January 2014, Juventus are the ninth-highest earning football club in the world with an estimated revenue of €272.4 million, the most for an Italian club.[155] The club is also ranked ninth on Forbes' list of the most valuable football clubs in the world with an estimate value of US$850 million (€654 million), making them the second richest association football club in Italy. The club was located in 2012 in top 50 sporting teams at worldwide level in terms of value.[156][157]
Juventus re-capitalized on 28 June 2007, increased €104,807,731.60 shares capital.[158] The team made an aggregate net loss in the following seasons (2006 to date): –€927,569 (2006–07),[158] –€20,787,469 (2007–08),[159] net income €6,582,489 (2008–09)[160] and net loss €10,967,944 (2009–10).[161] After an unaudited €43,411,481 net loss was recorded in the first nine months of 2010–11 season,[162] the BoD announced that a capital increase of €120 million was planned, scheduled to submit to the extraordinary shareholder's meeting in October.[163] Eventually, the 2010–11 season net loss was €95,414,019.[164] In the 2012–13 season Juventus continued to recover from recent seasons' net losses thanks to the biggest payment in Uefa's Champions League 2012–13 revenue distribution, earning €65.3 million. Despite being knocked out in the quarterfinal stage, Juventus took the lion's share thanks to the largesse of the Italian national TV market and the division of revenues with the only other Italian team attended at the competition's final phase, AC Milan.[165] Confirming the trend of marked improvement in net result, the 2013–14 financial year closed with a loss of €6.7 million but with the first positive operating income since 2006.[166] In the 2014–15 season, by the excellent sports results achieved (the fourth year in a row of Serie A titles, the tenth Coppa Italia title, and playing the Champions League Final), net income reached at €2.3 million. Compared to the loss of €6.7 million last year, 2014–15 shows a positive change of €9 million and returns to a profit after six years since 2008–09
Juventus re-capitalized on 28 June 2007, increased €104,807,731.60 shares capital.[158] The team made an aggregate net loss in the following seasons (2006 to date): –€927,569 (2006–07),[158] –€20,787,469 (2007–08),[159] net income €6,582,489 (2008–09)[160] and net loss €10,967,944 (2009–10).[161] After an unaudited €43,411,481 net loss was recorded in the first nine months of 2010–11 season,[162] the BoD announced that a capital increase of €120 million was planned, scheduled to submit to the extraordinary shareholder's meeting in October.[163] Eventually, the 2010–11 season net loss was €95,414,019.[164] In the 2012–13 season Juventus continued to recover from recent seasons' net losses thanks to the biggest payment in Uefa's Champions League 2012–13 revenue distribution, earning €65.3 million. Despite being knocked out in the quarterfinal stage, Juventus took the lion's share thanks to the largesse of the Italian national TV market and the division of revenues with the only other Italian team attended at the competition's final phase, AC Milan.[165] Confirming the trend of marked improvement in net result, the 2013–14 financial year closed with a loss of €6.7 million but with the first positive operating income since 2006.[166] In the 2014–15 season, by the excellent sports results achieved (the fourth year in a row of Serie A titles, the tenth Coppa Italia title, and playing the Champions League Final), net income reached at €2.3 million. Compared to the loss of €6.7 million last year, 2014–15 shows a positive change of €9 million and returns to a profit after six years since 2008–09
That's fair enough but Madrid aren't keen on paying Raiola's fee now, why would they be incline to do so next seasson?
Edit: What @zain said.
My impression was that they can't sell to Madrid next season due to Madrid having a transfer ban...
We seem to have an agreement with both Raiola/Pogba and Juventus. Only two parties that have yet to agree seem to be Raiola and Juventus. I am not worried at all, the fat man gets what he wants.
I was just posting Pilib's opinions from his Periscope - they aren't mine.
Coupled with the fact that Madrid may have a transfer ban next season, so it'd possibly be 2 seasons before they can get him. Should Pogba decline in them two seasons, or he doesn't progress very much (very unlikely, but who knows) then he'd not be worth the €120m we're offering now.
I would image if Pogba stays they will need to give him a bumper contract which will cost them shed loads in wages, signing fee's and they have just pissed of his agent. Madrid will have a transfer ban, but if they aren't prepared to pay the money now why would they in a years time? One last run at yhe champions league sounds a bit like Leeds which was a gamble that failed miserably and that was only qualifying.
Anything this is possible if the owners bankroll the club for money they will never make back even if they win the champions league, which again would be a change in approach. They only made €3m euros last year (they only paid off €50k of debt) and before that they loss €7m, with the new players they have signed even of they offload a few their wage budget will have increased exponentially. They can't fill their home games, their commercial revenue is stagnant.
The issue is Juv. They are refusing to pay it and wanting us to pay. For all we care, Raiola could 50m but its Juv that should pay it, out of their fee.
Agents are such a fecking ball-ache these days and what warrants them to receive such ridiculous sums? It's just sickening.
They agreed when Pogba signed for them that he would get a % of the transfer fee when he moved else where.
I don't think that Juve thought for a moment that Pogba would sell for 120m euro making the agents fee so large.
The way the contract was worded though the agents money comes out of the transfer fee not a separate agents fee. We still have to pay the agent that but he's entitled to a % of the transfer.
So it's potentially now or never for a huge transfer fee? If Madrid get a ban next season, they could go for him in 2018 and get him on the super cheap, regardless of how he progresses between now and then.
Makes sense for them to cash in now when you think about it.
Excuse me, started my post withYou're making Juventus out to be an unethical club, let me guess what's next, they are involved in match fixing?
So if the assumption is correct than yes they are an unethical club, nothing to do with the match fixing (though their history does them no favours)
If the assumption is incorrect then whatever I wrote is invalid so your precious keeps her dignity.
Hope thats clear for you
It's fecked up but that's the game now, everyone will have to adjust to these overlord agents, which in turn becoming to be the pimps of the football world.
Agents suppose to broker deals and take care of their clients rights, but it seems like the opposite is happening when one transfer deal puts 25M in the fat fecks pocket.