Yeah got a few hings mixed up because I didn't check the original posts you were responding too. Thought you were one of those negative ones with the charisma of a vegetable salesman who was arguing how it would be midweek before he's announced and that Mourinho saying him expecting Pogba on tuesday doesn't mean it isn't until wednesday before he is announced.
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Definitely not Gill
Apparently all white folks look the same
Sigh amortisation and paying in instalments are not the same thing.
We could pay £89m to Juve in one go and still amortise it in our books over the lenght of the contract. Amortisation is just an accounting principal to account for capital expenditure into costs.
4 plus 1 year optional I reckon, seems to be our standard contract
Not so sure. Mou clearly says "On Tuesday I will be here waiting for him, if that's the situation. It's a good market for us."
Definitely sounds like Pogba will be announced tomorrow(or later tonight).
I'd expect nothing less than a 12 year contract, a £1billion release clause and full dabbing rights.
Someone has been buying 10k blocks of shares for the past couple of sessions, probably anticipating a stock to go up after Pogba signs.
Well, it might have been a brothel. Memory fades.
I'm enjoying the amount of bitterness from rival fans. Particularly Chelsea and Arsenal it seems 
I doubt he'll leave for Madrid in 4 years for those who think he might, or Barcelona.
Ronaldo will have moved on he'll be 36. Messi will be 33 at that point getting on to 34.
The monopoly on football talent will be broken at that point, Martial will be 23/24, United may have players like Griezmann by then.
Different face of football at that stage.
Ronaldo will have moved on he'll be 36. Messi will be 33 at that point getting on to 34.
The monopoly on football talent will be broken at that point, Martial will be 23/24, United may have players like Griezmann by then.
Different face of football at that stage.
Except for the Ronaldo to Madrid transfer, I think all transfers are done with payments in installments.
Links?I'm enjoying the amount of bitterness from rival fans. Particularly Chelsea and Arsenal it seems
Given the money is being paid over three years, if the pound gets stronger over the next year or two, the amount we pay goes down, since we will still pay the same amount of Euros to them... no?
Or did I just make that up completely missing something
Or did I just make that up completely missing something
Is the treadmill facing the direction of the Bernabeu and are the doctors working for RM and are going to drug him in a kidnapping coup ?
I think we should dedicate a thread to ensahul. He was really dedicated.
And special.
And special.
Given the money is being paid over three years, if the pound gets stronger over the next year or two, the amount we pay goes down, since we will still pay the same amount of Euros to them... no?
Or did I just make that up completely missing something
We are probably paying in euros. The club probably has reserves of USD, GBP, EUR.
Can't wait to watch Pogba's first speech about "Dream come true" as it's Ed automatic official script interview
If we have Martial and Griezmann, I don't see why he would want to move either. If we had that team, we'd probably be doing well in the CL and premiership
Given the money is being paid over three years, if the pound gets stronger over the next year or two, the amount we pay goes down, since we will still pay the same amount of Euros to them... no?
Or did I just make that up completely missing something
Depends what is in the contract, the amount owed can be written up in either euros or pounds, I'd say euros is the most likely.
If the value of the pound compared to the euro goes up, we will need to pay less pounds to cover the amount in euros, you are correct in that. If it goes down we will have to pay more. That is how exchange rates works
So we're paying Juve £30M a year for the next 3 years for Pogba.
Not too bad when you consider that's what Liverpool pay Southampton every year.
Not too bad when you consider that's what Liverpool pay Southampton every year.
Thing is if Pogba does well for us (fingers crossed) it will be very hard for Madrid, Barcelona or any other club to prise him away.
Think how much they'd have to possibly pay in doing so.
Think how much they'd have to possibly pay in doing so.
And saying things like we're the biggest club in the world, blah blah.
Not saying it's not true, but it's clear that we tell players to say things like this upon joining.
Well, we are spending X amount of cash and obtaining a player(considered an asset) who will go on the books as X amount. In terms of fundamental value of the stock there should technically be no change at all. There will be speculators who will bet on this being a positive or negative news which understandably will make the stock fluctuate. These fluctuations will be corrected eventually to match the fundamental values.
In other words, our transfers don't affect our stock price in the long term, as long as we are paying fair value for the players. If we overpay though, our stock price will fall, ever so slightly. Alternatively, if we buy a player and his fair value goes up because of the team doing well in general, our stock price will go up, ever so slightly.
Can’t wait to hear SAF’s comments about this. Got some friends that are pissed due to ”Pogba being a overpaid, greedy kid and leaving United blah blah blah”, so maybe if Sir Alex came out with positive comments and kind of ”clears some air” they could get on board and support this transfer.
Have witnessed some serious muppetry on here over the years, but following a flight on flightrader really is special.
Apparently you do. I remember this...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-blame-for-his-failed-move-to-ac-9746035.html
You do realize he is leaving a well-settled Juve who are doing great domestically and pretty good in the CL for a team actually mid-transition and not even guaranteed a CL spot.
This is not to say that he will definitely move in 4-5 years but a great team is not of all that great importance to players nowadays it seems. Great package along with playing for a prestigious club is a big draw and it's not like Madrid or Barca will suddenly turn into Liverpool. They will still be pretty dominant domestically.
Milan check teeth. They were infamous for being very thorough with stuff like that in the late 00s to enable Maldini etc to play to a high level in their late 30s.
I think Cissoko (spelling?) from Porto failed a medical with them after they didn't like his teeth
Edit: yep http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-blame-for-his-failed-move-to-ac-9746035.html
All contracts are amortized for the length of initial contract. If he signs for 5 years, it's £18m per year assuming £89m transfer fee.
So what happens to the Raiola fee now? Is Juve paying it? Seems a bit odd that they would sell for €105m now after all the rumors about €120m or even €145m.
€105m minus the agent fee leaves them with * 0.70 = €73.5m.
€105m minus the agent fee leaves them with * 0.70 = €73.5m.
Given the money is being paid over three years, if the pound gets stronger over the next year or two, the amount we pay goes down, since we will still pay the same amount of Euros to them... no?
Or did I just make that up completely missing something
It depends how our income stream is denominated. Presumably our payments from the Premier League are in pounds. Same obviously for our gate receipts. But our biggest, single source of income now is commercial. In what currency are those contracts drawn? I imagine a lot of them may be in dollars and some may even be in Euros. Or maybe not.
That's an accounting thing. It doesn't have anything to do with how Utd actually pay Juve.
The other thing is that Woodward seems determined to end the practice of Real and Barca automatically snapping up the best talent, and he's now proven it with this transfer, so you have to have faith that he won't be willing to sell Pogba to Spain at all, and that he'll be able to keep him here (assuming we still want him here). There's no reason we can't be like PSG in this regard.
Yep, I agree. Paying terms will be dependent on how we agree on installments - won't be surprised if we just adjust to how Juventus will be paying Napoli for Higuain (although they will be paying Napoli in just two years, €45m per year).
can't wait to see what he looks like in a united shirt.
The deal could be us paying Juve £90million worth of Calzones plus match fixing bonuses over 5 years for all we know, the headline will still be a record £90million transfer.
Maybe the fat cnut decided to think about his client for once and was willing to take a lesser cut.