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Who should partner Pogba in our midfield trio?
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Just flip Schneiderlin and Herrera from the Feyenoord game. Herrera can be the passer and Schneiderlin can be the closer downer. Alternatively, just get Carrick's walker out and have him do his Pirlo rendition. Pirlo was 36 when he played in the CL final so I don't see why Carrick can't lead us to CL glory this season.
Jose should ditch this 4-2-3-1 formation, it's clearly not working. Pogba is our best player so United should build the team around him. Pogba played on the left of the midfield 3 at Juve. United should play a 3 man mid with Herrera - Carrick/Blind/Schniederlin - Pogba. Mkhi/Mata playing in front of the mid and behind 2 strikers.
DDG
Valencia Bailly Mike Shaw
Herrera Carrick/Blind/Schni Pogba
Mkhi/Mata
Ibra Martial/Rashford
DDG
Valencia Bailly Mike Shaw
Herrera Carrick/Blind/Schni Pogba
Mkhi/Mata
Ibra Martial/Rashford
Herrera and Fellaini currently. Eventually Blind and Herrera
In a midfield three, I'd play him with,
Carrick - Holding
Fellaini/Herrera - box to box
Pogba - advanced number 8 (Iniesta role)
That's close to what he had at Juventus, with:
Pirlo - Holding - Deep lying playmaker
Vidal - Box to box - Engine
Carrick - Holding
Fellaini/Herrera - box to box
Pogba - advanced number 8 (Iniesta role)
That's close to what he had at Juventus, with:
Pirlo - Holding - Deep lying playmaker
Vidal - Box to box - Engine
He should be behind the striker no?
DM(need a new DM)
Herrera Fellaini (needs to be replaced)
Pogba
Kinda like a 4-1-2-1-2 thing going on?
I don't know Im not a united fan so I don't really know what I'm talking about, this is just based on the minimal stuff I've heard on this forum and Facebook comments
DM(need a new DM)
Herrera Fellaini (needs to be replaced)
Pogba
Kinda like a 4-1-2-1-2 thing going on?
I don't know Im not a united fan so I don't really know what I'm talking about, this is just based on the minimal stuff I've heard on this forum and Facebook comments
I would love to see - Schneiderlin, Pogba and Herrera in midfield.
Agree with OP. Blind is amazing as a DM and proved it in his early days here. Wins the ball back and got a good brain on him. Gets flak for some of his performances at CM but he's done great considering it is not his natural position. Every team needs a Blind and we are misusing him.
Been telling this since he was signed.
His best seasons at Juve came when he was paired with a B2B and a DM .
bring Bastian/Carrick to side and pair one of Morgan/Herrera to make a midfield 3. Let Martial and Mikhi take the wing spots and Rooney can compete with Zlatan and Rashford.
His best seasons at Juve came when he was paired with a B2B and a DM .
bring Bastian/Carrick to side and pair one of Morgan/Herrera to make a midfield 3. Let Martial and Mikhi take the wing spots and Rooney can compete with Zlatan and Rashford.
Feyeonord?
------ Blind/Carrick/Schwein ------
-- Herrera/Schneiderlin -- Pogba --
Blind in midfield if Mourinho chooses to persist with Smalling and Bailly as the CB pairing of choice. Personally I prefer Blind - Bailly.
-- Herrera/Schneiderlin -- Pogba --
Blind in midfield if Mourinho chooses to persist with Smalling and Bailly as the CB pairing of choice. Personally I prefer Blind - Bailly.
Blind and Carrick protecting the defense and using their passing range. Pogba in front of them free to play his natural attacking game.
I would have said this but none of them can run a game or dictate the tempo. Let's put proper midfielders in there who can actually pass the ball accurately, with purpose and protect the defense. Sick of having brutes and runners in there who can't get control of games
Carrick Blind
---Pogba
Only Rooney, because he is THAT good!
Carrick
Herrera
Pogba
Herrera
Pogba
Carrick made a really strong case today, has to be those three.
This question really depends who we play. Against opposition who press us it should be Herrera and Morgan. Against opposition who we will dominate possession against it should be Carrick and Herrera. Still think Felliani should be nowhere near the starting line up. He's a good option to come on but simply lacks the discipline and technical quality that would be required against the likes of Arsenal, City and Liverpool. His presence on the pitch also forces us to play hopeful hoof balls too early in games which is so dissapointing to see after spending huge amounts of money on quality players. Its also incredibly fustrating seeing him give away bait fouls when we are chasing games.
Blind (or Carrick if Blind is needed in defence) and Herrera. Preferably Blind though; with enough energy in midfield to support him, think he could become a fantastic quarter back of a DM.
Bind was voted Eredivisie layer of year playing DM. And rarely do DM win such an award if you`re not really good, most awards always go to strikers or wingers. He realy needs a sustained amount of games as a DM
Has everyone forgotten Blind in midfield? We've seen in and it ain't pretty.
Carrick
Herrera Pogba
I think this is our best option at the moment
Herrera Pogba
I think this is our best option at the moment
I'd rather keep the Bailly / Blind pair going than Bailly / Smalling.
I don't think that trio will work as the midfield will be lacking energy.
Carrick has only played one game, and against not very good opposition. I'd ease him over a couple of league games to see where he's at. Stronger teams are going to press him hard, and he usually doesn't do too well when that happens.
For now, I'd still go with Fellaini and Herrera behind Pogba. This will work.
For now, I'd still go with Fellaini and Herrera behind Pogba. This will work.
With what we have now and what worked at Juve it seems pretty clear to me what our midfield should look like. We need a deep laying passing DM with superb positional sense. We need a box to box Mid, and then Pogba compliments these. To be honest I struggle to understand why this is so difficult for Jose to adapt to as his first Chelsea team had something similar to this with Makelele/Essien/Lampard.
-------------DDG-------------
Valencia-Bailly-Blind-Shaw
------------Carrick----------
-----Herrera---Pogba------
Miki--------Ibra-----Martial
And when we are going to play counter we can replace Ibra with Rashford for more pace. Ofc any productive path forward is predicated on the assumption Rooney is on the bench...
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-------------DDG-------------
Valencia-Bailly-Blind-Shaw
------------Carrick----------
-----Herrera---Pogba------
Miki--------Ibra-----Martial
And when we are going to play counter we can replace Ibra with Rashford for more pace. Ofc any productive path forward is predicated on the assumption Rooney is on the bench...
.Fully agreed. People forget that Carrick has not had a great game in a long time. Actually, people wanted him to be sold or released not too long ago and now suddenly he's our savior again
1) You're exaggerating
2) That was his first season in English football after moving from the dutch league
I agree. Putting 2 players next to him, who can actually play football would be a good start. Only doubt will be if Carrick can still handle the PL with which he had problems in the last two seasons, especially against a fast team like Leicester that might be a problem.
I think Blind's season as a centre back makes him even more suited to the role of DM in this team. I don't think that judging players on their performances (and his weren't even bad) under Louis is an accurate way to predict how they would perform in a Jose team (when he finally gets them to play like a Jose team, rather than a Louis team).
Agreed, and besides, the way we have been playing with Rooney all over the place and Martial/Mata going very wide it's been like a bastardized version of 451. You don't need two DM's when playing 4 at the back, it's overly cautious and overall just a very negative formation.
Imo, we should play the good old 442 (or 4-1-2-1-2 to be precise)
--Valenia--Smalling--Baily--Shaw
--------------Blind-----------------
-------Pogba--------Herrera------
---------------Mikhi---------------
--------Zlatan------Rashford-----
There has been so much talk about how we need someone to strech the defense to create space for Zlatan, well what is the best position for a rapid player to strech defense? Fecking CF of course. We also need someone to dictate from deep and Blind/Carrick is perfect for this. Neither are the best tacklers in the world, but their range of passing and guile is just what we need.
Agreed.
Imagine a team in the future of a Martial Rashford partnership in that team
Some people did. I posted this in May:
I was hardly the only one, either.
The last few games have been a car crash so it stands to reason its time to turn to our insurance policy.
Anything that gets all of Schweinsteiger, Blind, Carrick, Fellaini, Rooney & Zlatan into the team all at the same time is fine by me.
In a 3 man midfield you don't need super athletes running around. You just need midfielders who are tactically disciplined and good on the ball
Or a mixture of both, which provides a good balance.
What we need right now is control of the ball and a solid base so that Pogba can run free. They would provide exactly that imo.
Also they would provide much quicker and better service to the attackers than our other options who can run around but don't really have the passing range required
Carrick will always play good against weak opponent, but he won't cut it at premier league level. We've already proved, time to try something else.
Can't remember a single brilliant game from either Herrera or Schneiderlin in a United shirt.
Conversely I've seen a few games where Fellaini has been our MoTM, even though he's blatantly nowhere near as good. Go figure.
I'd like to see us try Pogba/Herrera or Pogba/Schneiderlin in front of Blind or Carrick, but they'd have to play a lot better than they've played recently to take Fellaini's spot.
Conversely I've seen a few games where Fellaini has been our MoTM, even though he's blatantly nowhere near as good. Go figure.
I'd like to see us try Pogba/Herrera or Pogba/Schneiderlin in front of Blind or Carrick, but they'd have to play a lot better than they've played recently to take Fellaini's spot.
We pretty much only play well when he's in the team. Been that way for a long time