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Premier League Gameweek 7
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
So close to a fantastic weekend, especially with that stupid penalty Swansea gave away vs Liverpool.Would have been 3 points behind City if we got a win today.
Agreed.
Who'd of thought it, putting City under pressure, not giving them time to think, reaps rewards.
What Spurs did isn't something you can just turn on and off at will. Wanting our team to play that way against City is like wanting us to play like Brazil in 1982.
Danny Rose ran like he had a cop on his chase all match.
So Pep could lose a game he manages
Pity there's an international break really!
Hopefully with this the City wank will slow down a bit.
Pep also got his tactics wrong with playing Fernando in midfield with the latter lacking much in ball playing abilities against a pressing team.
Pep also got his tactics wrong with playing Fernando in midfield with the latter lacking much in ball playing abilities against a pressing team.
Lucky for City they won the league in September according to some.
Agree. Tottenham has over 2 years under Poch to learn this style of play. Pep can have the excuse of new to his team for today. Next year, we'll see.
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80% of the caf thought Spurs won't finish in the Top 4 remember.
Early days, though I don't think that was to discredit Spurs, people just couldn't contemplate United not finishing in the top 4 and Spurs were the easiest team to remove from it.
Speaking more in general terms. Rooney and Fellaini are easy culprits. Even Mata, Herrera and Blind fall under that category sometimes. Too many fragile mindsets and individual defensive errors. Seen it one too many times over the course of these 3 years.
Watching this spurs side, it would be great if we could fill our team with more dynamic and athletic players. Its also true of most of Mourinhos best chelski sides too.
Which baffles me as to why Morgan hasnt had a look in at all. He surely could add that needed steel in midfield without sacrificing mobility or passing ability?
I'd argue it shouldn't have taken until now, for Celtic/Spurs to show the way. Swansea did too an extent too, just couldn't maintain it.
Yes, no doubt. But teams shouldn't be playing right into their hands either. Coaches can at least go some way to implementing a similar gameplan - Swansea did to an extent. They attempted to adapt.
Where in my statement did I say it was? Fact is that Spurs have just beaten (easily) the club that most of the Caf have been crying about for the past few weeks. I'd avoid reading the Title Race Thread for example. They're the ones with the best long term form and have continued last seasons form into this season. That performance didn't surprise me one bit, they've been doing it for a while now.
It's just disappointing that we dropped points and didn't take more advantage of City's loss.
fecking impressive. Great workrate and no worrying about whether he will get caught on the counter. Why? because he has the pace, energy and workrate to get back. He also knows his midfield will cover for him.
Then we have blind who has trouble clearing a ball from his own box. Shambles really and I dont care how "good" his delivery is.
Get Shaw back in immediately.
Sigh.
Just those few moments changed the entire weekend atmosphere.
This week could have been a draw for Liverpool, win for us and a City loss
But it couldn't be :sad:
Watch some El Classico. Mourinho's Madrid is very few who pressed Barcelona. The problem is that Barcelona is way superior than this City so the pressing is not as effective. And Barcelona has the benefit of stability in style while Pep is few months into his City job.
People re just too quick to draw conclusion.
Of course, but we were heavily rocked first by that loss to City then to Feyenoord. Before that, we were rocking; 4 straight wins and full of confidence. I'm hoping these past two games have a similar effect on City.
The Celtic game City were just poor, the first goal was offside, their 2nd a lucky deflection and the 3rd handed to them by Kolorov mistake, though they did show how it could be done.
Spurs today took that blueprint and built on it but Poch has done that against Pep long before Celtic did.
The good side for City is while the blueprint is there, very few teams can play with the intensity to pull it off. Spurs did today, Liverpool will too. Who else can play with that intensity, pace and power? I don't see Arsenal, Chelsea or United being able to do that, as an outside bet maybe Watford. Than its hard to see teams who are both as powerful and pacey as Spurs.
Spurs look the real deal but as a City fan I'm not overly worried about this happening all season. There is a chink in the armor as we knew there would be. I don't think there's enough teams in the prem capable of exploiting it to stop us having a crack at the title.
Spurs today took that blueprint and built on it but Poch has done that against Pep long before Celtic did.
The good side for City is while the blueprint is there, very few teams can play with the intensity to pull it off. Spurs did today, Liverpool will too. Who else can play with that intensity, pace and power? I don't see Arsenal, Chelsea or United being able to do that, as an outside bet maybe Watford. Than its hard to see teams who are both as powerful and pacey as Spurs.
Spurs look the real deal but as a City fan I'm not overly worried about this happening all season. There is a chink in the armor as we knew there would be. I don't think there's enough teams in the prem capable of exploiting it to stop us having a crack at the title.
Yeah you need a wonderful team full of wonderful characters like Brendan would say.
Seriously though, I don't understand why teams let them play, it's as clear as day you need to press Pep's teams.
If you give them space and let them set the tempo of the game it's game over.
Your finding the prediction that Spurs won't finish in the top 4 funny.
You can't possibly find that funny if it hasn't actually been disproved yet, especially at such a short time into the season.
Like you said, lots of people have said City have been good but look at this game. Things change very fast, its not a laughable prediction to make Spurs won't make the top 4, especially with their being probably 6-7 clubs who could realistically do that.
No it's not always like that. This Pep's City team is few months old. His Tottenham is 2 years and few months old. Tottenham can be confident on their foundation and look to exploit City's new foundation.
Try this against Pep's Barcelona at top form or Bayern, I would bet my house on Pep's team. Majority of Pep's teams' sound defeat were against deep lying & counter attacking team.
To play devils advocate, look at us. We were the trendy preseason pick to win the league/finish second. However, we all know that teams are not built overnight and so far its been proven true. Moreso, we finished 5th last year whilst playing rubbish football for the most part.
Then you look at spurs. Criminally underrated, but they were the 2nd best team for most of the last season. They have improved this year and have already proven they can make the top four.
How can you NOT rate them above us? Especially after today?
It's probably because most people don't watch Spurs all that often. I probably watched half their games last season (living with a Spurs fan) and they looked excellent throughout. Honestly think they'll get top 4 comfortably this year, very well organised with a very good defense. They're really bloody difficult to break down.
Whats interesting is to find out how City react to this, especially as they won't be able to immediately play again. I remember Rio once said that when you drop points you're really eager for the next game to come round to right the errors. Going to be a fun season this year.
When you put comfortably into the your post then you must look around and see that City, Arsenal, Liverpool, us and even Chelsea are still pretty much around. 7 games into the season doesn't tell a clear picture. A international break at this early stage of the season can be a turning point.
We did press them in second half. Our match was after the international break so the fitness and the preparation was not as well (showed in first half where the score was decided). Had the game been at a couple week later, then unlikely that first half would have happened, then the result would have been very different. Not to mention we had quite major change in Rooney role since then.
This is a momentous tactic vs the newness of Pep's City foundation. The executing team also need to be well drilled. We're also a new team. Celtic did well but got a lot luck to get out with a draw. Only Tottenham is convincingly pull it off and their foundation has been built for more than 2 years now.
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I'm saying either prediction (spurs finishing top 4 or not) is perfectly fine.
I happen to fall on the Manchester United above Spurs line because we've seen countless times over the years (such as Liverpool 2013-14 - maybe that season) when they were brilliant and next season they were terrible. This has happened lots of times and spurs have always been inconsistent.
Now, that might be a stupid assumption to make as history is history but its as good as a prediction as the opposite I think.
Nobody knows.
Interested to see if Arsenal can win again. Hopefully Burnley can send Claude and co into meltdown.
Mate. I wish it were still true. It probably would be if a certain Alex Ferguson was still our manager.
Nowadays? The harsh reality is things are different now. Everything that was a certainty before, is no longer so. The times have changed and we are moving into a new era of football.
We really need Mourinho to come through for us and bring together a title winning team. He needs to be ruthless and no penny should be spared.
If we could train Rose to be a right back, we'd have an awesome improvement on Valencia.
Spurs are rated on here, Poch's work hasn't gone unnoticed, people got annoyed by GlastonSpur but I don't think anyone really put down Spurs as a team or were unaware of their style of football. I think they were just easier to remove from the top 4 than United, Arsenal, city, Liverpool or Chelsea because they're a smaller club and because well, they're Spurs. Plus they didn't get involved in transfer muppetry.
That was an imperious performance from Spurs. From back to front I think they are the best drilled team in the league. In addition the mentality difference in many of these players who not long ago were the epitome of "spursy" is unbelievable. Lamela, Walker, Rose, Vertonghen - even Lloris (really talented but had too many cock-ups to be among the best) - are playing to a capacity I didn't see could happen.
Pochettino is a hell of a coach. He did it at Southampton. They could have been just mid-table plodders but he started a shift in mentality to keep striving for better. Very impressive.
Pochettino is a hell of a coach. He did it at Southampton. They could have been just mid-table plodders but he started a shift in mentality to keep striving for better. Very impressive.
Spurs are the atletico madrid of epl.
I make you right, for quite a few teams going to try and press's City like Spurs did today would be a disaster. They won't have the pace, power and desire let alone the relentless coaching to do it. As a result City will play through them and dismantle them. If I was a City fan I wouldn't be seriously concerned either.
Great result for us, could be a crucial 3 points in our fight to retain a top 4 spot.
Mustafi getting physical with the ref
Mustafi getting a bit too comfy with the ref.
Thought touching the ref to demonstrate, remonstrate (or otherwise) was bookable. AdM comes to mind.
Mustafi getting a bit too comfy with the ref.
This Arsenal game is a tough watch. Burnley parking the bus and Arse labouring.