He's interested in the nonsensical ramblings of Davis, Johnson and Fox.
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He's interested in the nonsensical ramblings of Davis, Johnson and Fox.
My firm cant wait for us to be out of the EU.
Also, eu is a graveyard for financial services with zero growth a reality for years to come and govts and regulators against these companies.
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Still, neither you nor I have any idea what will happen or how the EU will act. It's far too early to say.
The UK quite obviously will not accept freedom of movement so it's totally pointless keep saying that it will need to accept it. We want out of EU membership and any discussions on this are futile until people accept that.
Still, neither you nor I have any idea what will happen or how the EU will act. It's far too early to say.
So either most of the financial experts are crazy or your firm had entered a niche very few firms know about
And the EU quite obviously won't accept unrestricted access to the single market to the UK. I believe May as much as I believe Merkel, Hollande and co. The UK will not accept freedom of movement and will lose its access to the single market
If the pound continues to slide as it has it would be pointless for the EU to worry about a trade deal with the Uk as it wouldn't be able to afford to buy anything
What a load of bollocks, I work for a passported FS firm and we are now facing huge client losses and subsequently financial losses leading to job losses..
I'd love to know what your firm does?
We just dont have any business in the EU like a lot of other gigs in the city. While its true some of the bigger firms have a lot to lose from brexit and hence they are the most vocal ones.
"Experts" are idiots anyway. One should duck when they tell you to jump. Everytime.
It will not lose access as well you know. The EU is pretty useless we all know that but surely not that useless.
The bigger firms tend to be the ones that hire most people, make most money and pay most taxes.
Oh well
Read my post again. "some bigger firms" not all.
What can I say? Lets hope the likes of Boris, Fox and Davis will find a way to outfox them.
By "access" you literally mean access or free trade? Because the first one isn't even in contention, it's the latter who is in the middle of the conversation.
Well there's quite a good number of them though
Losing single market access a 'significant risk' to financial services: Tyrie
By Rozi Jones 20th September 2016
Finance News
http://www.financialreporter.co.uk/...ificant-risk-to-financial-services-tyrie.html
5,476 UK-registered firms hold at least one passport to do business in another EU or EEA member state. Firms hold multiple passports for different business activities and different member states, with the total number of passports held by UK firms amounting to 336,421.
8,008 firms registered in other EU or EEA member states also hold passports to do business in the UK.
The bulk of passports are issued either under MiFID, covering cross-border investment services, or the Insurance Mediation Directive. Passports are issued also under nine further directives.
Andrew Tyrie commented: “The business put at risk could be significant. Almost five and a half thousand UK firms are using passports to do business in Europe, and over eight thousand European firms are using passports to provide services in the UK.
“None of the current off-the-shelf arrangements can preserve existing passporting arrangements, while giving the UK the influence and control it needs over financial services regulation as it develops. Efforts to secure an appropriate arrangement for UK-based firms will be one of the most challenging aspects of the negotiations about the UK’s future relationship with the EU.
“No doubt the hard grind of establishing what best protects UK interests is already underway. This issue needs to be right at the top of the in-trays of the Chancellor, the Governor of the Bank of England, and the UK’s lead negotiators.”
Oh as long as it's only some of the biggest firms on the planet it's all right is it?
Do you know what "anti-intellectualism" means? Cuz it's rarely considered a positive trait.
I think the best reply I can give at the moment is that we haven't activated Article 50 yet so there's plenty of time for everyone to give sensible thought to this matter. There are big changes coming up for everyone in the world over the next couple of years, Brexit was just the start and there will be changes in France too, so everyone concerned will do the best for themselves with the situation as it is at the time of negotiation. We have a long way to go yet and many things will change before 2019.
Like the anti-... that we showed in not joining the euro when these "experts" ran a similar propaganda.
No one (apart from kick them immigrants lot) is saying its going to be easy. Its going to be painful in the short to medium term, infact I voted remain just thinking about this short term shit show. But long term its going to be a better outcome for the UK.
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Why?
What changes in France?
I was chatting to a leaver pre referendum and the first thing she could think of when I challanged her to name her problems with the eu was dim light bulbs
Funny that you should say that. I watched a documentary where they interviewed the common folk about the reasons why they voted yes or no. A man who had voted to leave said he had did so because he was afraid that "they' would take over our education system and that our kids would be forced to take menial jobs like picking sprouts!
I was left wondering why the reporter hadn't asked him who he thought should or (more importantly) was filling these demeaning positions that are clearly beneath us Brits!
A slight aside. As a relative newcomer to forum I stumbled upon this thread (having tired of the how much we hate..... threads) and am genuinely blown away by the high level of debate on here. I have been hooked, and I have actually learned something new about the whole eu debate. Seriously some of you guys make more sense than some of the idiotic politicians that imo left us badly informed and divided.
I'd imagine that freedom of movement is loved in some of the crap European countries that unemployed people cant wait to escape from and the govt cant wait to get rid of.
Exactly, seeing her with Hollande( The worst leader ever ) giving it large is just laughable. Hollande should also concentrate on turning his own shitheap country around before looking at the big picture.
its probably loved by the non xenophobic countries too as they tend to see immigration as a strength rather then a weakness.
The ones he pulls from thin air when continuing to spout utter bollocks.
Apparently it's not just the light bulbs that are dim in the UK
I suppose that he thinks about Le Pen being elected and asking for a frenchxit. But she is as unpopular as Hollande and on the right there is at least three candidates who are ahead of her.
Not everyone mind.
I'm a UK citizen working for a Polish company, so yes I love how freedom of movement allowed me to escape my crap European country.
Yep. I was probably a little quick with the praise. I did say some tbf.
Most brits wont consider moving as its unthinkable for them to speak a language which isnt english. However if you do care travelling in those countries you will be amazed how the economy of the new entrants had flourish in recent years. Malta is filled with brits, germans and italians living and working there. Poland, Czech Republic and co haven't reached that level but will soon be there. The eu issues are not regarding these countries but the so called old eu members some of whom are sinking in debt after years of irresponsible government
And Stanley is a UK citizen working in Holland so you'd think he'd have at least something positive to say about it too, but there you go; its all quite bizarre this Brexit lark.
Welcome to Brexit Britian where, being compared to Enoch Powell is a compliment.
Each week a new line is crossed. This is the beginnings of a fascist state and we need to stop it now. They're coming out the woodwork since the vote as they believe they have (and they might well be right) popular support. Genuinely scary.
Another extract from the Government National archives I posted earlier
Racism in Britain
Assessing how these immigrants have been welcomed in Britain since the 1950s is a complicated task. There was, and still is, a minority of hardcore racists, with policies based on the idea of 'keeping Britain white' and banning all immigration. Groups such as the British National Party (BNP) have remained on the extremist fringe of British politics. It is also true that black and Asian immigrants faced various degrees of hostility and racial prejudice in postwar Britain. Surveys conducted in the mid 1960s, for example, revealed that four out of five British people felt that 'too many immigrants had been let into the country'.
They feel free to express themselves now, is the Race Relations Act of 1968 still law?, if so, there are probably grounds to prosecute the government now.
Cos the UK has been crap for years regardless of the eu. that wont change any century soon. I have thought in the past about going back but after weighing up the pros and cons its better here.
I like living in Holland although 42% tax on my wages isn't much fun. I like living in Holland not because its I the EU and as I have posted before, my dutch mrs would like Holland to step out too.
I find the imbalance in Europe and the Eurozone abhorrent, I despise the leaders of some of its member countries, I don't care about freedom of movement at all, it was never on my mind. Some people moan about tax shy greeks but not tax shy conglomerates that EU leaders love to protect.
When someone living in the UK and gets employed by a dutch company and have to relocate, they are given a 30% tax exemption for 10 years, the company has to prove that the job was advertised in Holland first and there were no suitable applicants. Tell me there are no suitable applicants to fill positions in the UK done by foreigners, you cant. Everyone can pick strawberrys and work in a caf. That's why the UK is crap and full of opportunity for others, they cant sort their own shit out. In the years to come I don't believe the UK will be any different than it was on June 22nd, a day before the vote.
That's how I view the eu and the Eurozone.
I'm not sure you realise this but statements like this make most if not all sensible people disregard whatever you say after or prior to it.... unless you are saying it in jest? Which I doubt....
I really shouldn't bother, but if you are going to ignore anything an expert says then who exactly are you listening to?