Any decent keeper would have made those saves. First one was a weak shot and the second he made a meal of it by going with the wrong hand. No keeper should let a shot in from that distance at that height.
Jose : "They are not the last wonder of the world like you say they are"
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Any decent keeper would have made those saves. First one was a weak shot and the second he made a meal of it by going with the wrong hand. No keeper should let a shot in from that distance at that height.
Spot on Mourinho 
Yes its funny that United fans defend their manager and slaughter the Chelsea manager. More funny than when you pretended to be a United fan!Funny watching as a Chelsea fan. Mourinho did this very same thing dozens of times probably and you guys slaughtered him for it. "Look at Chelski and Mourinho playing this tumescent, shite football like a small team when they've spent all that money" was the common statement.
Now he's got the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the sport and you lot are praising him. Funny how things have changed.
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That's very true, Mourinho was slagged on here when he played for a 0-0 against Moyes at OT in 2013.Funny watching as a Chelsea fan. Mourinho did this very same thing dozens of times probably and you guys slaughtered him for it. "Look at Chelski and Mourinho playing this tumescent, shite football like a small team when they've spent all that money" was the common statement.
Now he's got the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the sport and you lot are praising him. Funny how things have changed.
Did you blame LVG for players doing the same shit? We should have kept that dude. Oh forget about him. Should have kept moyes.
And yet Chelsea remain the most odious and classless club in the land....Funny how things have changed.
What did Klopper'n say?
..by that logic we should never praise a manager winning 2-0 through world class goals as well. Also as good as those saves were, they are expected of De Gea by now. Couple of saves against big teams are to be expected. United too missed a good chance through Zlatan.
It is common sense that when one praises tactics of a manager, it is overall game, not 1-2 isolated incidents either way. Had Zlatan scored, it would not have made tactics and game plan better. Those would have been still same as they were with two isolated chances to opposition.
Liverpool 2013-14 tried more than Klopp's team today. Yet he will get free pass on tactics when for large part, his team did feck all and had no clue how to adapt.
United fans on here seemed to believe exactly that in the build-up to this game. Liverpool fans have been much more realistic about tonight and our team's performances in general this season but of course that'll be totally ignored.
I didn't say we were anywhere in the first half though, did I? You had your chance and Ibra fecked it up but to say we nicked a good one today is clearly pushing it. You controlled the first half because you nullified us and had one good chance. The second half was ours and we looked much more like scoring than you did in the first half. I think a draw is a fair result but if any team should've won it should've been us imo, fair enough if you disagree. I was just replying to a comment that you completely nullified us which is simply not true unless he turned off the TV at half time.
No but I blamed LVG for almost getting me to the point where I couldn't be arsed to watch us play it was that bad.
Absolutely Jose.
The media were making out we were going to get totally hammered all week.
The likes of Scholes and Giggs were saying we'd get beat. Red Nev was saying he was 'scared', that's a quote mind you, of Liverpool.
You would have thought we were Macclesfield going to Anfield tonight, not Man Utd.
Utter garbage. We are five points off the top, with 30 games left. We are not this massive way off the Scouse like they made out.
The media were making out we were going to get totally hammered all week.
The likes of Scholes and Giggs were saying we'd get beat. Red Nev was saying he was 'scared', that's a quote mind you, of Liverpool.
You would have thought we were Macclesfield going to Anfield tonight, not Man Utd.
Utter garbage. We are five points off the top, with 30 games left. We are not this massive way off the Scouse like they made out.
Ahh, I see the general consesus form goes out of the window with games like this has suddenly been abandoned?
Yup. Beat Chelsea and we can start something.
Numerous comments about us being defensive then quickly qualifying it by saying that's football etc. Just subtly saying we park the bus and don't attack.
That too, but I can't see a Pogba (OM) - Young - Rashford (winger) - Zlatan offense achieve a lot in tonight's team setup against an aggressive pressing team.
Well, if jose keeps playing like this against any decent teams.
Might as well not watching any of those matches then?
Sour grapes from the Liverpool fans again I see
That didn't suit our agenda for this match. Sorry!
Good job Mou taking dig at the clown Einsteins of media
His haul of trophies that go along side it do
You missed the point. LvG made home games against shit teams just as poor to watch. Although even more frustrating, because we had loads of the ball.
That's a stupid statement, as he said a long shot and a rebound in the box?
That's like saying klopp relied on zlatan missing the header.....bore off
LvG did the same when we beat them, he said we beat them at their own game. Sounds almost like people who have been supporting Jose's appointment are a bit peeved that he got United to play the way he always gets his team's to play when away to the teams competing for top. We are always going to get these games, hoping for an opportunity to knick it.
I have to watch the game to have a view of how we played, but by the comments I am a bit disappointed we did not score against their defence.
Jose and LVG are like chalk and cheese. Mourinho gets results, Van Gaal gets us the possession champions trophy.
Exactly.
You should just take your pack of sour grapes and go to bed, you're getting very tiresome.
I'm fed up of "just as poor"
Spending a record amount preseason and getting in these world class players means we need to have stepped up. Today was fine but we need to start doing more.
Otherwise why bother sacking a manager.
Didn't Firmino have an even easier header than Ibra in our 'shit' first half?
We pressed them high and were in control for a lot of the match. I dont think parking the bus means what you think it means
Young I agree with because he's just inept offensively but no excuse for the other 3.
We basically didnt give them an inch bar Can and Countinhos chances. Zlatan then had a big chance to score. Had it even been on target it would have went in.
Basically the first half an hour we nullified them, but they came into the match then.
What exactly are people complaining about? If you predicted us to win 2-0 then fair enough, but a large portion of fans had us to lose by various score lines ranging from a 1-0 or 2-1 to an outright 4-0.
So we get a point and now you're complaining about the possession? If we went out and played to LFCs tune (IE go all out attack like some of you wanted) and they slaughtered us 3-0 same people would be crying.
It's not as simple as going to anfield, dominating everything and smashing them. Jose hasn't had the same time with his team Klopp has had, and had to experiment today. Liverpool were very confident going into this game and we drained every ounce of that confidence. I still expect them to do well in their upcoming fixtures but we really put them down a peg or two. We did very well given the circumstances.
So we get a point and now you're complaining about the possession? If we went out and played to LFCs tune (IE go all out attack like some of you wanted) and they slaughtered us 3-0 same people would be crying.
It's not as simple as going to anfield, dominating everything and smashing them. Jose hasn't had the same time with his team Klopp has had, and had to experiment today. Liverpool were very confident going into this game and we drained every ounce of that confidence. I still expect them to do well in their upcoming fixtures but we really put them down a peg or two. We did very well given the circumstances.
Not much has changed, no idea what exactly is funny here.Funny watching as a Chelsea fan. Mourinho did this very same thing dozens of times probably and you guys slaughtered him for it. "Look at Chelski and Mourinho playing this tumescent, shite football like a small team when they've spent all that money" was the common statement.
Now he's got the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the sport and you lot are praising him. Funny how things have changed.
Majority of Caf always had an obsession with Mourinho and his apparently amazing tactics to defend deep. Only since it ridiculously backfired against Atletico and 10 men PSG you read a bit more critical opinions (and by that time even Chelsea fans started complaining about his over the top negativity).
Now he is our manager shock horror the same majority who even liked him when he was at Chelsea of course is not going to turn against him now.
But there are still enough of us (albeit a minority) who didn't like his negativity and now he is managing us dislike it even more.
Still you can't expect him to be something he is not.
I'll be fine if he qualifies us for the CL and teaches our relatively young team how to defend. He can then go after 2-3 years and we can get a more attacking coach.
Not many will agree here with this but I think that's what is going to happen. I am not expecting any wonders from him.
Having said that he is right about what he said about Liverpool, Klopp actually managed to make them look worse today than they have been under previous managers. But then they actually are worse which makes it even more frustrating that we didn't even try to win.
I can't deny that LVG was shit for us mostly.
But for me though, it is just the same shit. Passing without any real contribution or defending deep, absorbing all the pressure while doing feck all up front.
Like i said in another thread, it is fine that we got a point. But, is it really a positive for us at all and the manager for 'shutting them down' against a team who many of us laughed at for having shit players.
Maybe you should coz you can't take some of it.
Don't think his was easier plus take into consideration their heading ability, you just expect a lot more from Ibra.
I think that saying that we're lucky with a point thanks to DDG is about as fair as saying that Liverpool are lucky with a point due to Ibra's shite form.
You know I'd get your point if today was the only game of the season. Because it only starts to make sense if our last two league games had never happened.
DDG should make those saves though. You would be disappointed if either shot went in.
We can't tell that till the end of the season or two.
There is a possibility that jose could do not much better than LVG.
Not because they are equally good. It is just shit can happen just like what happened to jose last season. You hope it is not with us.
Meh, expected that.