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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Not unless you are an advocate for no borders whatsoever?
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Borders have caused more war & pain than anything else in human history. I can't help but think a World with less borders would be a better one. I mean, you can't suppress people if you can't lock them in, no good being a dictator in a country where people can just leave.

If the climate does end up fecked these borders will be the cause of WWIII for sure.

But too many people are unwilling to let go of national pride or something like that so I can certainly see all the good that happened with the EU & open borders being flushed down the toilet and reverting to a World with even more borders rather than working towards less :(
 
Aren't Eastern Europeans the most fiscally productive citizens we have? Seem to recall reading a report stating that they were the only net contributors overall whilst non EU migrants and indigenous citizens created a net deficit.

The reasons being that Eastern Europeans tended to be young and working with few children and they generally returned to their home nations after period.
 
Stanley Road said:
We talking google style tax avoidance or low business tax?
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She's not outlined anything concrete as yet which won't surprise anyone, it's all very wishy washy right now but...

May will also announce that the Treasury is to launch a review into the scope for further cuts in corporation tax post-Brexit and for increasing tax credits for research and development.

In a speech which will contrast with some of her earlier attacks on big business, she will say: "We believe in business - the entrepreneurs and the innovators who employ millions of people up and down this country."

And in a bold pledge which will delight bosses, the PM will also suggest that the Tories will cut corporation tax even lower than the 15% promised by Donald Trump in his US presidential election campaign.
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So yeah, the UK looks like it's preparing to bend over to big business... nice. So we can look forward to even more of the big businesses running the World, and that ginormous gap between the rich and well anyone else getting ever larger and larger.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
She's not outlined anything concrete as yet which won't surprise anyone, it's all very wishy washy right now but...

So yeah, the UK looks like it's preparing to bend over to big business... nice. So we can look forward to even more of the big businesses running the World, and that ginormous gap between the rich and well anyone else getting ever larger and larger.
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Nice that she threw in a few crumbs for research and development there given that most of the research Universities in the UK are suffering already as their positions on EU wide scientific research projects are withdrawn and handed to EU based labs.

Hardly a surprise to see the tories cosying up to big business though, I'm sure it's just what all those Brexiteers who voted out on the grounds that the EU was a servant to big business rather than on immigration were dreaming of when they talked of making Britain Great again.
 
When big multinationals move here because we're charging 12% corp tax, that'll no doubt be spun as an endorsement for Brexit.
 
Xeno said:
When big multinationals move here because we're charging 12% corp tax, that'll no doubt be spun as an endorsement for Brexit.
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I did wonder what had led Facebook and Google to both announce big expansions to their UK operations this week. Guess someone has been having some quiet conversations.
 
I wonder who'll be footing the bill to allow theser companies not to pay taxes and what would happen if the UK's economy go bust.

Lets give 350m a week to the NH.....Google
 
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devilish said:
I wonder who'll be footing the bill to allow theser companies not to pay taxes and what would happen if the UK's economy go bust.
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Poor people, and if the UK economy went bust poor people would suffer the most. It's almost like there's a pattern emerging..
 
Kentonio said:
Poor people, and if the UK economy went bust poor people would suffer the most. It's almost like there's a pattern emerging..
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The UK economy is 1.7 trillion in debt and it look set to keep digging that hole as old expats start losing their rights on mainland Europe and will be forced to return home. The funny thing is that if the economy go bust its going to be difficult for UK young people to flee the country and find jobs elsewhere
 
Kentonio said:
Poor people, and if the UK economy went bust poor people would suffer the most. It's almost like there's a pattern emerging..
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Yes, but the poor people will be able to afford to pay more to accommodate lower taxes for Google and Facebook once they're no longer footing the bill for all these immigrants on welfare ;)

Wonder if loyal British companies will also be offered the same low corporation taxes so that they can compete on a level playing field or if they'll need to threaten to feck off first.
 
Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
 
devilish said:
The funny thing is that if the economy go bust its going to be difficult for UK young people to flee the country and find jobs elsewhere
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Yes, one of my favourite lines from the Brexiteers after the referendum..

"If you don't like it, move somewhere else!"

You just took away people's right to freedom of movement, you silly feckers! :lol:
 
The french right plans on lowering company taxes by 50bn. So both countries will be in competition.
 
JPRouve said:
The french right plans on lowering company taxes too by 50bn. So both countries will be in competition.
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And the French have a better weather, full access to the single market + a great cuisine.

They might have to pay tarriffs on the Walthamstow cake though. Its high time you start to learn doing some cakes deary. ;)
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
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Sadly predictable
 
Let's get real. The truth is that most people who voted for leave did so out of chauvinism and xenophobia. There are obviously plenty of exceptions, but for the majority of people who voted to leave it certainly applies.
 
Rams said:
Let's get real. The truth is that most people who voted for leave did so out of chauvinism and xenophobia. There are obviously plenty of exceptions, but for the majority of people who voted to leave it certainly applies.
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FFS don't mention the X word in front of leavers. They might not want them in their country which is strange considering that they don't shy from moving in other countries themselves but that's not xenophobia. Same thing can be said about expecting countries to open up their market to British businesses like family would do while putting restrictions on their people to live in the UK. Asking full access to their money but not to their people is perfectly reasonable.
 
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I think its quite worrying how similar the overall language of the tories on brexit is to Trumps own. Lots of vague promises how we're going to do things the best way, the right way without any actual substance. Of course the tories arent preaching to rednecks so they dont dumb it down quite as much.
 
Kentonio said:
Have you ever actually been to England? :lol:
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I live here unfortunately. I dont think there's ever been a UK politician who dumbs language down to the level that Trump does, intentional or not. The Sun is supposed to have a reading age of 8, Trump must be about 5.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
She's not outlined anything concrete as yet which won't surprise anyone, it's all very wishy washy right now but...



So yeah, the UK looks like it's preparing to bend over to big business... nice. So we can look forward to even more of the big businesses running the World, and that ginormous gap between the rich and well anyone else getting ever larger and larger.
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well low corporation tax is a good idea if you want to keep jobs in the uk, the dept I worked in at ibm ended up in Ireland due to their business incentives. NL offer it to businesses here for 10 years and that's why there are soooo many English speaking multinationals here, some move on after 10 years or downsize.

You cant have your cake and eat it, you want jobs to stay in the uk right?
 
Stanley Road said:
well low corporation tax is a good idea if you want to keep jobs in the uk, the dept I worked in at ibm ended up in Ireland due to their business incentives. NL offer it to businesses here for 10 years and that's why there are soooo many English speaking multinationals here, some move on after 10 years or downsize.

You cant have your cake and eat it, you want jobs to stay in the uk right?
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Why not go one further and bin the minimum wage? I'm sure the companies would come pouring in.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
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Mainly cos they were allowed to pay not tax, not 12%, none
 
It feels like the remain camp don't want to lose jobs to the continent

Don't want to attract businesses like they do on the continent with low taxes

What do you actually want?
 
I think you'll find 12% for google is a much better deal for the UK than 0%

If they can be arsed to collect it of course
 
Stanley Road said:
I think you'll find 12% for google is a much better deal for the UK than 0%

If they can be arsed to collect it of course
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What will happen if lets say Germany offers 12% corporate tax + full access to the single market?
 
devilish said:
Im asking you a question. What do you think will happen?
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It depends if the 12% is enough of a gain enough to offset a 300% salary overhead.

As i have said, i have lost more than one job where companies have moved for tax incentives and cost reduction.

I often wonder why every company doesnt move operations to eastern Europe. we have recently dine that and my last company too.

Would.a japanese registered company have full access to the single market if it moved there?
 
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