Chelsea under Conte | Let's sign the next Hazard, literally.

TheMagicFoolBus said:
This coming summer Chelsea will certainly be a more attractive prospect to join. If Costa goes to China for €120m as has been widely reported the club will have somewhere on the order of €250m to potentially spend. Assuming Lukaku costs €75m then there's still €175m to spend in reinforcing the squad-for me a goalscoring box to box CM is needed along with depth at the wingback positions. Potentially a left footed right forward as well who likes to come inside to create space for wingback overlaps...Dybala or Griezmann? :drool:

I'm personally not sold on Sanchez; he's a class player but I don't think he'll age well. I'd be reluctant to spend the rumoured €50m on him personally. For me the dream summer would be something like Dybala (€120m), Nainggolan (€30m), Lukaku (€75m), Sidibe (€25m), Christensen (free). I'd also probably sell Willian, with Pedro assuming his role coming off the bench.

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Azpilicueta----Luiz(C)---Christensen
Sidibe--Kante---Nainggolan--Alonso
---Dybala-----Lukaku-----Hazard---

Subs: Begovic(?), Moses, Fabregas, Matic, Pedro, Zouma, Ake

For me that's one of the best sides in Europe, capable of challenging on multiple fronts and playing a wide variety of styles.
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It sure would, it's a shame there is close to no chance you'll have that team.
 
duffer said:
This thread is a turning into a Muppet orgy. We have our best season for years and people want to dump the players responsible.
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That's what I thought. Can't see any of this happening in normal world. Conte isn't going to sell everyone who wins him his first PL and rebuild the starting XI every season :lol:
 
TheReligion said:
So you want to replace half of your current first team?
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Cahill, Matic, and Moses are the weakest players in the starting XI. If someone is offering €120m for Costa the club would have to be insane to not take it as he is 28 and has myriad issues. Dybala over Pedro is a pipe dream that will almost certainly never happen but would be a no brainer if it could be pulled off.

I'm not suggesting that these would be necessary or feasible at all, but in an ideal world where the team could acquire the best players for the system I think what I've put there is about the optimal setup.

Womp said:
It sure would, it's a shame there is close to no chance you'll have that team.
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Yep, probably not, though the team will probably spend 9 figures this summer.
 
TheReligion said:
That's what I thought. Can't see any of this happening in normal world. Conte isn't going to sell everyone who wins him his first PL and rebuild the starting XI every season :lol:
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I think the main point is that Chelsea's squad isn't deep enough with quality players for a season with a CL campaign. So I don't really expect Chelsea to sell any of their current starters (except Costa if he wants to move), but to replace a number of squad players with very good ones who can become starters. 2-3 plus Christiansen perhaps, and direct replacements if key players should leave.
 
We'll definitely bring a top right sided attacker. There are so many quality players in that position who might become available this summer or can be tempted if we throw a lot of money. Sanchez, Griezmann, Silva. I can even see someone like James Rodriguez working in that role as he'll be more central in our system. So it is almost certain we'll bring someone good in that position. Pedro will be a quality depth option. I like Willian as a player, but he'll dropped to fourth in the pecking order and he isn't as good a fit in this system as he was for us before. I can maybe even see him leave in January to China, similar to Oscar, due to reduced playing time. Ruben might take the role of Hazard's understudy. He seems to be getting better and better in that role. If we win the league with a game or two to spare, we'll get to see him start a couple of games there and show us his level at the moment.

There is lot of talk about Costa leaving to China for silly sum, quoted around 120 Million. I've seen both Pound and Euro mentioned. But let's go with a conservative figure. It's plenty of money to find a replacement. But unlike right wing/forward, where there are plenty of options, I'm not sure there are enough good options here. Lukaku has obvious weaknesses. Morata and Belotti are other options mentioned. I hope it's one of the latter two. Either way, this might weaken us slightly. If Conte isn't convinced about Batshuayi's suitability for current system, we might go into the market for a backup forward. Celtic's Dembele is a possibility or we might just bring back Bertrand Traore or Tammy.

Conte seem to want a midfielder too. He generally prefers players with Stamina and a lot of fight in them for the midfield role. Bakayako to Chelsea was creating lot of buzz during the international break, but haven't heard anything about it since then. There might be a left centerback in the wishlist, but a lot of people don't feel it's a priority, given we have Zouma recovering and Christensen nearing a return from loan. Azpi might be an option for the left, if Conte trusts one of Zouma or Andreas for the right sided role. We might also see someone like VVD arrive for the left side, with one of the younger center backs going out on loan. Ake's role next year is still uncertain. But he is a fantastic player himself.

That brings us to Wingbacks. I'm fairly certain we'll bring at least one player here. Wingbacks work a lot in our system and with all the added games in Europe, it makes sense to have quality backup or upgrade. I personally prefer Semedo, but the club seems more keen on names like Sidibe, who might be able to cover both sides, though ideally having two separate wingbacks, much like how Poc does with Spurs, would be the way to go.
 
As long as Cahill and Matic are replaced pur team will jump in quality. Passing will be ten fold more effective.

Then i would replace one of Moses or Alonso. Neither are defensively solid or efficient in attack. Especially Moses!! He gets all the time and space in the world, every game, multiple times, to find a striker of midfielder with a cross or cut back. Probably count on your fingers how many times a goal has occured!
 
Can't see William leaving. Works very hard for the team and hasn't complained much even with the reduced play time -- and even with his personal problems this season such as the death of his mother, he's still doing well.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
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Azpilicueta----Luiz(C)---Christensen
Sidibe--Kante---Nainggolan--Alonso
---Dybala-----Lukaku-----Hazard---

Subs: Begovic(?), Moses, Fabregas, Matic, Pedro, Zouma, Ake

For me that's one of the best sides in Europe, capable of challenging on multiple fronts and playing a wide variety of styles.
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Ain't happening son.
 
TheReligion said:
So you want to replace half of your current first team?
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We need three new starters at RW, CM and LCB either way. Four if Costa leaves.

The club made this mistake of not refreshing the squad in 2015 summer (even when Mourinho begged of them openly to do it) and suffered massively. Little chance the club makes the same mistake again.
 
AshfordLad said:
We need three new starters at RW, CM and LCB either way. Four if Costa leaves.

The club made this mistake of not refreshing the squad in 2015 summer (even when Mourinho begged of them openly to do it) and suffered massively. Little chance the club makes the same mistake again.
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Why do we suddenly need to replace Pedro?
 
Kentonio said:
Why do we suddenly need to replace Pedro?
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He cant seem to hold down a spot against Willian for one. Plus he turns 30 this summer.

Pretty sure Conte would like a RW who is closer to Hazard in ability than to Willian.
 
AshfordLad said:
He cant seem to hold down a spot against Willian for one. Plus he turns 30 this summer.

Pretty sure Conte would like a RW who is closer to Hazard in ability than to Willian.
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I'm sure he would, but that's definitely a luxury buy not a necessity.
 
Said it before and I'll say it again. A good but far from great team. Had it easy this season with their fixtures and it's helped with consistency but I don't look at them and really fear a great deal.

United made a show of them today.
 
TheReligion said:
Said it before and I'll say it again. A good but far from great team. Had it easy this season with their fixtures and it's helped with consistency but I don't look at them and really fear a great deal.

United made a show of them today.
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Their lack of European football has masked their weakness beyond the first eleven. I think they will bottle the title now.
 
Not a great team, but the best in the league this season. They'll be deserving champions.
 
Still think they'll win the title but they should really cash in on Costa, when he's shite he's really shite.
 
TheReligion said:
Said it before and I'll say it again. A good but far from great team. Had it easy this season with their fixtures and it's helped with consistency but I don't look at them and really fear a great deal.

United made a show of them today.
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Just shows one change in the back and they cannot cope. They lucky that they weren't in the Europa.

When one of Moses or Alonso are missing they don't look the same.
 
Nah, they're still the favourites for the title, unfortunately . Spurs have a harder run in and ironically we let Spurs in the title race by beating Chelsea today but could effectively end it when we play them in a few weeks time.
 
Costa's performance was one of the worst I've seen from a PL striker let alone a supposed "top" striker. He is toilet.
 
Rashford really embarrassed them today.

Enjoyed two academy products up top causing so much destruction against the Champions Elect.
 
First time since 2007 apparently that Chelsea have not had a shot on target in a PL game.

Vintage Jose performance.
 
africanspur said:
First time since 2007 apparently that Chelsea have not had a shot on target in a PL game.

Vintage Jose performance.
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Not the old Jose though (camping in our own box & all). We're playing a very high defensive line.

Anyways, Conte's Chelsea, don't you dare losing the league now.

prateik said:
Not a great team, but the best in the league this season. They'll be deserving champions.
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They should be & deserve if they do. However, if they fail, it's my personal PL all time bottling job.
 
KM said:
Brace yourselves, @Treble_Winning is coming.
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He will post as follows

Jose best in the world, amazing at everything
Hazard not even top 5 in prem
Conte Italian Neville proven today hes average
Defo winning the title next year
4 0 at Stamford Bridge a fake result
Chelsea will now implode

I refuse to believe he honestly agrees with what he posts
 
cant suddenly call them shit after that, and given they also twatted us. Theyre the leagues best, was always going to have a poor performance soon
 
salford_ said:
He will post as follows

Jose best in the world, amazing at everything
Hazard not even top 5 in prem
Conte Italian Neville proven today hes average
Defo winning the title next year
4 0 at Stamford Bridge a fake result
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It's fine though, just wondering did we see anything positive posts on ManUtd after the win. Every posts sounds like a Chelsea fan posting.

You are gutted Chelsea lost isn't it.
 
Other teams are surely going to copy Jose's playbook from today. I still think they'll win the title but one more slip and it's squeaky bum time for them.
 
roonster09 said:
It's fine though, just wondering did we see anything positive posts on ManUtd after the win. Every posts sounds like a Chelsea fan posting.

You are gutted Chelsea lost isn't it.
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no. my dad supports them do kinda stick up for them when people post idiotically. Jose outwitted conte today, but it doesnt mean one is suddenly shit or much better. that kinds stuff is pathetic
 
salford_ said:
cant suddenly call them shit after that, and given they also twatted us. Theyre the leagues best, was always going to have a poor performance soon
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The difference between the 2 games are that they couldn't completely nullified an unstable United side, while now the 21 game unbeatable streak United who struggle to win game at home completely nullified them to the point of 0 shot on target.

Of course they ain't becoming shite just by today or we're great.
 
No shots on target. I thought Conte was a super attacking coach who had left Jose behind? Could it be he also relies on talented individuals like Hazard to win games? Maybe the CAF FM legends can recommend an attacking coach...?
 
salford_ said:
He will post as follows

Jose best in the world, amazing at everything
Hazard not even top 5 in prem
Conte Italian Neville proven today hes average
Defo winning the title next year
4 0 at Stamford Bridge a fake result
Chelsea will now implode

I refuse to believe he honestly agrees with what he posts
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Not quite. But this much is true - the gap between the two clubs is actually very slim, much slimmer than the league table suggests.

We will be title contenders next season and so will they (and Spurs).

Anyone's guess who wins the title from this point. I don't really care because we have beaten both Chelsea and Tottenham and we've shown that we have the ability to beat the eventual champions, whichever club it is. Evidence of progress.
 
ti vu said:
The difference between the 2 games are that they couldn't completely nullified an unstable United side, while now the 21 game unbeatable streak United who struggle to win game at home completely nullified them to the point of 0 shot on target.

Of course they ain't becoming shite just by today or we're great.
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it was a going over, no doubt. i just hate kneejerk stuff post match.
 
Treble_Winning said:
Not quite. But this much is true - the gap between the two clubs is actually very slim, much slimmer than the league table suggests.

We will be title contenders next season and so will they (and Spurs).

Anyone's guess who wins the title from this point. I don't really care because we have beaten both Chelsea and Tottenham and we've shown that we have the ability to beat the eventual champions, whichever club it is. Evidence of progress.
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we'll be in thr race ill give u that. Im only teasing but i do think Conte is v good
 
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