Kroos brought his child onto the pitch at the end of the game and the Bayern away fans were hurling profanities and insults at him and his family.
So glad to see the back of such a cvntish club
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So glad to see the back of such a cvntish club
Ancelotti says the referee was very poor. Two offisde goals and the red against Vidal, well I guess he is right.
Bayern was leading 3:2 against Real (11 vs 11 men minutes).
The better team is out.
Bayern was leading 3:2 against Real (11 vs 11 men minutes).
The better team is out.
“When Madrid got scared, the referee began his show. This robbery can’t happen in the Champions League, we felt it a lot and you start to wonder a bit. When [referees] embarrass you like that, it’s really hard to take. It makes you very angry” – Vidal
Both of Real's fullbacks were excellent tonight and I thought Hummels and Boateng were both very good for Bayern. The game swung on a couple of big calls but Ronaldo bagging 5 over 2 legs against this Bayern side is impressive, 41 hat-tricks and 395 goals for Real Madrid, crazy numbers.
Completely and utterly meaningless statistic
Yeah, Bayern has a better goalkeeper. So what? The goalkeeper is a part of the team.
And Casemiro should have been sent off with Vidal before the 60th minute. Lewandowski was also onside and 1-on-1 with Navas in another opportunity that the linesman missed.
I fully agree with you, but Casemiro never should have finished this game as well...But I mean that is football , small things often decides games between evenly matched teams.
No white (wum) text? No? Sure?
Go home Vidal. This guy has at least 1 leg breaking challenge in every game. Couldn't have happened to a nicer team.
Ironically, this is coming from a player who missed a penalty that should have never been given in the first place and should have been sent off about 30 minutes earlier. Vidal is the last player who should say anything about the ref.
The referee for the Bayern vs Real Madrid game (Viktor Kassai):
- Refereed the 2011 Champions League Final (Man Utd vs Barca)
- Was the first referee to award a penalty after viewing a video replay (at the 2016 FIFA Club World Cup)
Look on Youtube for Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich 4-2 Post Match Analysis 18/4/2017.
So very sad what happened today.
So very sad what happened today.
Completely and utterly meaningless statistic
Yeah, Bayern has a better goalkeeper. So what? The goalkeeper is a part of the team.
And Casemiro should have been sent off with Vidal before the 60th minute. Lewandowski was also onside and 1-on-1 with Navas in another opportunity that the linesman missed.
yes Lewy was onside, but there was a situation where Ronaldo was onside as well.
We had one undeserved penalty (the one on Neymar was stonewall), and PSG had a penalty denied. That's as far as bad refereeing decisions go.
Casemiro should have been sent off at least 3 times. Vidal won the ball and got sent off. Lewandowski was flagged offside but was clearly onside. Ronaldo was offside.
Regardless, Barça fans complaining about bias from referees in Europe is very, very rich indeed.
How about that second yellow for Pique that ended up being a yellow card for Cavani.
You don't remember that one?
Or Neymar kicking Marquinhos for a straight red but nothing was given. I guess you didn't see that either..
Our game can be worse then that shit show only in Pique's head, which is fine. It would be worrying if it was any different.
Vidal's red was ridiculous, two of Ronaldo's goals were offside (one absolutely blatant) and Casemiro given free reign to kick and dive his way through the 120 minutes without punishment.
Too many matches are being decided by outside factors when it should be the players. It needs to stop.
Too many matches are being decided by outside factors when it should be the players. It needs to stop.
That "undeserved" penalty equals a second yellow to Suarez?
Call me old fashioned but kicking a defender in the head while he's on the floor isn't "stonewall".
PSG "denied" penalty equals a red for Masch?
The Pique tackle from behind?
Vidal should have already been sent off?
(Totally agree Casemiro should have gone though).
Neuer has fractured his left foot directly prior to the 2:3 from CR7...
Gotta say it. I'm over Real Madrid. They bore the pants off me.
I'd rarther watch Wrexham. And I mean that.
Some awful decisions. Not sure we can blame officials since it seems to happen so frequently. They have so little time to make huge decisions with tens of thousands screaming at them. Time for videos for yellows, reds, pens and goals at the very least.
What did Carlo do now?
I wouldn't go quite that far..... though living three miles from The Racecourse would mean the travel costs would be much lower.
It seems like he doesn't give half a feck if he's playing on a yellow. I saw him the 2015 CL final against Juventus as well, and he was playing like a mad man then as well after getting booked in the first half. Thought he was going to go off.
A bit one sided but yes, the word 'scandal' sums it up pretty much.
Just reminded me of Real vs Bayern in 2012 when Real was also massively favoured ind the 2nd leg. Ronaldo scored 2 in the first half, the first was a ridiculous penalty when Alabas arm got shot while he was down and he used it to stand up and the 2nd goal was just another offside goal. In the end Bayern went through in penalties but still ridiculous. This time it was much much worse though.
I think he's blaming him for the red card because he didn't sub Vidal. Yet, in Carlo's defence, we despereately needed all three subs for other players. Ribery, Robben, Lahm, and Alonso are all old, Hummels, Boateng and Lewandowski played injured. To sub off Vidal would mean wasting a substitution on a player who should be able to play the complete match. At least that's what I believe to be Carlo's reasoning.
Vidal has only himself to blame. He wasn't exposed due to Carlo's tactics or anything like that. He was just stupid. Carlo trusted him to be able to survive the match, Vidal's stupidity failed him. Shit Happens. Personally, I don't blame Ancelotti here. But I can understand where @GhastlyHun is coming from.
Yes, Bayern was clearly disadvantaged by the ref. As was Leicester against Atletico, as was Paris against Barcelona. Happens in the vast majority of games lately. Especially if Spanish teams are involved
I hope Casemiro steps on a lego.
Lots of conspiracy theories, sure we need technologies to help the referees, but to read posts here complaining that the Spanish teams only win because they are helped is too much for me.
Truth of the matter is, sure Bayern has more to complain over 2 legs than Madrid, but Spanish teams win more because they play more, if people posting here really believe they only win because they cheat or are helped, I don't understand why are they always wanting to bring players and coaches from there if they are all so bad.
By the way, the team I like more in Spain is Bilbao, so I do not feel I am biased towards Madrid or Barcelona, since I am not even spanish.
Bring on the Video Ref to help, and to clean up these conspiracies.
Truth of the matter is, sure Bayern has more to complain over 2 legs than Madrid, but Spanish teams win more because they play more, if people posting here really believe they only win because they cheat or are helped, I don't understand why are they always wanting to bring players and coaches from there if they are all so bad.
By the way, the team I like more in Spain is Bilbao, so I do not feel I am biased towards Madrid or Barcelona, since I am not even spanish.
Bring on the Video Ref to help, and to clean up these conspiracies.
Couldn't have happened to a better club. It's Bayern; feck them.
Atleti won fair and square, I don't know where Leicester deserved to win, their football looked more something from the 80's than from this century.
Those theories are bullshit anyway. If Vidal converts the pen in the first leg, we likely go through to the next round by virtue of one of the most ridiculus penalties ever. If Vidal converts, there would not have been any discussion about the stuff from today and Real fans would complain about the bias against them.
Everybody is on the wrong side of those decisions once in a while. It happens. Until the refs don't get any technological help it will remain this way. The game is simply too fast to be refereed by humans. There is just no way a game like today, or a tie like this one remains without big mistakes. Refs are human. Humans are imperfect. They screw up from time to time. Today they were especially horrible. Annoying, but there's nothing you can do about it, other than accepting that humans are imperfect creatures prone to mistakes.
Haven't seen much of the discussion, but has Robben's penalty been scrutinised much? If nothing else, it was ridiculously dramatic/theatrical from Robben.
I also saw a comparison to the Chelsea v Barca debacle, but I don't think it was that bad at all. Madrid certainly had the rub of the green, but in my opinion it was hardly scandalous.
I also saw a comparison to the Chelsea v Barca debacle, but I don't think it was that bad at all. Madrid certainly had the rub of the green, but in my opinion it was hardly scandalous.
It was nowhere near that bad. Wasn't even as bad as Paris Barca in my opinion.
It was basically a yellow-red that was not a foul, and one offside goal.
That does not mean Bayern was by far the most affected team in the 2 legs, the only thing I cannot agree is reading behind that Spanish teams win more because they cheat.
To be fair I don't know if the Video Ref will solve all the problems, but surely at Uefa competitions and World Cups needs to be implemented to reduce the level of errors, it would be interesting to see if it was applied today how they would judge the penalty on Robben, the own goal of Ramos, if there was an offside by Lewa, the red card, and the second and third goal by Ronaldo.
What I mean is that with so many doubts, even if they have videos to judge there will always be errors in judgement, so I would be moderately confident that all decisions are going to be well judged.
Not many games can be as bad as Chelsea-Barca, otherwise we'd all be up in arms every year.
How Casemiro avoided getting sent off I don't understand. Vidal got the ball on the tackle where he was sent off for as well.
That was really an all time great match until the refs lost control.
Just saw some of the decisions. Couldn't have happened to a better team. I have zero sympathy for Bayern. Anyone who has needs to remember how that cnut Ribery got Rafael sent off which turned the tie on its head.
Do you think his posiiton is in jeopardy? IMO he won at Bernabeu, the ref changed the game.
For me neither. feck Arsenal.
You're equating some alleged bad behaviour from fans with a club? Hmmm....