We = the ~2m who use the railways on a regular basis. Everyone else pays less. It's just moving the cost on to those who use it.
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We = the ~2m who use the railways on a regular basis. Everyone else pays less. It's just moving the cost on to those who use it.
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Tories are either extremely confident right now or very thick. Quite possibly both.
What alternative reasoning do you subscribe to, it being a purely money-making tax on business under the guise of an immigration measure?
Although i don't think it is unfair to suggest that some employers pursue foreign labour as a first option, and often not for the best of reasons. Yet even accepting this to be the case, there are some obvious flies in the ointment: such as non-EU being a relatively low contributor, doubts over the supply of natives to fill the posts, and the need to incentivise businesses on training locals.
If you're not making any moves toward addressing the above, it amounts to a tax dressed up as immigration policy. I wonder how much it has even raised though, as you'll need people to enforce the damn thing.
And/or they think their voters are thick
Pretty remarkably poll from Ipsos today.
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At this rate it might just have to go to whoever is left.
Its just how May operates, she'll do whatever she thinks needs to be done irrespective, quite psychotic. Im sure it does come from a place of confidence as well.
The tone from the tory press this morning is quite something. Spectator have said they should apologise to Ed
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The battle-bike
Fixed term parliament act getting repealed, not that it was worth the vellum it's written on anyway.
Redistribution of civil service jobs away from London.
Channel 4 moving to Birmingham most likely.
Channel 4 moving to Birmingham most likely.
Kinell, they're actually talking about overhauling stop and search.
They're crazy ballsy. Actually acting like they've already won. If they do end the triple lock, and do end the promise of no tax rises, and they do charge pensioners more for their social care, then they are taking away Labour's future ammunition.
And like you say, with brexit, they are asking for a free hand to do whatever the hell they want.
Kuennsberg with a good question
Labour's plan was very positive and optimistic, whereas this is very "hard times, tough choices, trust us, BREXIT".
Labour's plan was very positive and optimistic, whereas this is very "hard times, tough choices, trust us, BREXIT".
Everything is a preprogrammed. Its like she's been indoctrinated
Q: The manifesto does not say if high earners will pay more in tax. Will they?
May says high earners face a choice, between a party that always has and always will believe in low taxes, and a Labour party whose instinct is to put up taxes.
Q: The manifesto does not say if high earners will pay more in tax. Will they?
May says high earners face a choice, between a party that always has and always will believe in low taxes, and a Labour party whose instinct is to put up taxes.
That is exactly the right position heading into these negotiations. This contrasts with the Liberal Undemocrats, who'd sell the electorate down the river, and Labour, who don't have the least clue what their strategy would be.
I get the electoral politics of it, but it's still going to be odd to see Corbyn's main attack be against things that are vaguely redistributive.
Q: On page 36 the manifesto says you think no deal is better than a bad deal. Is this a mandate for leaving the EU with no deal? And wouldn’t that cause chaos?
A: May says she wants the best deal for Britain. She wants a deal that works for the whole of the UK.
And the Westminster bubble wonder why we all hate politicians. Some of the most vacuous shit I have ever heard.
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Labour is in the exact same position as the Tories. You can't praise one and criticise the other.
Liberal undemocrats. Jesus
This is how New Zealand did their flag referendums.
First, select which flag will be competing
Second put that flag against what exists currently.
This is the right way to hold referendums, and if anyone had ever thought there was the a real possibility Brexit would happen, that's what we would have had.
First referendum; choose what Brexit we are going to have (Single Market In & Immigration In OR Single Market Out * Immigration Out, etc)
Second referendum; this Brexit vs the Status Quo
The problem is that the Brexit we are going to get is not one that anyone has voted for. If the Tories keep immigration, they are going to piss off 30% of the electorate. If the Tories get "no deal" and tank the economy, they are going to piss off 70% of the electorate.
Right now they are hard set on a free-trade agreement with no single market access and paying the smallest divorce bill possible. Possibly - this is what the electorate would have asked for in a NZ style double referendum anyway, but we don't know that. No one voted for it.
I expect they'll probably still be promising this by 2025. Whilst simultaneously claiming to be the party of fiscal responsibility.
Labour is in the exact same position as the Tories. You can't praise one and criticise the other.
Liberal undemocrats. Jesus
Is it not Labour policy that they will accept any deal, irrespective of the bill? Emily Thornberry also admitted on LBC earlier this week that they have no plan for how future immigration will be managed. And point blank, i wouldn't trust Corbyn to defend British interests in talks with the EU. He'd roll over for a tickle.
For years, Clagg and the Lib Dems said they wanted a clear In/Out referendum; such was part of their opposition to a vote on the Lisbon Treaty. They got what they asked for but didn't like the result.
Do you actually believe no deal is better than a bad deal?
It's one thing to say that the UK should be willing to walk away if they are not satisfied with the deal on offer. It's another to believe that black is white, and that no deal is better than a bad deal. And so we have the Conservative party stating in their manifesto their belief in something which is patently false.
I have huge issues with Labour's response to Brexit, but at least their manifesto isn't displaying such blatant stupidity.
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And he's still voting for it 'because Corbyn' the laughable little toad.
Changing to FPTP for elected mayors, not at all for their own benefit you understand.
Exactly what is the reasoning that Corbyn would be any more likely to roll over than May? Other than you not liking him
As for the statement on no deal. Nobody is stupid enough to be influenced by a few empty statements, the EU are well aware of the impact of no deal ffs
It wouldn't be among my preferred options at this point, neither the first choice nor the next best alternative, however the possibility is there. More importantly, those sitting around the table must believe it of us too.
From what I've read, the Tory manifesto is an absolute disaster
I'm sorry but the idea that the UK will genuinely go into negotiations with the EU with the prospect of them using no deal as some sort of negotiating tactic is a nonsense in my opinion. The whole no deal better than a bad deal is merely a slogan meant for the electorate at home. Surely the right way to approach the negotiations is to get the stuff they already pretty much agree on down as the baseline of any agreement, no hard border in NI, rights of citizens etc. so that any agreement cannot be any worse than that at least. As someone who lives in Northern Ireland and spends a fair amount of time in border areas (both north and south of it) the idea of no deal is just absolutely crazy.
A strong and stable one though. Its a master peice according to the Mail of courseFrom what I've read, the Tory manifesto is an absolute disaster
Good overview on the care stuff from Ed M's old policy bloke
I believer those things are already our starting position. Indeed walking away a more basic deal, with those sort of things its heart, would be my Plan B. They could even be agreed in principle and stated publicly by both parties this year. But if the EU continues to insist on a single payment of 60-100bn before we move forward, things become difficult.
Agreed. From abroad it looks a bit like a suicidal person standing at the edge agreeing to speak to a counselor on the condition of still being allowed to jump. No deal would certainly hurt the EU too, but not even on the same magnitude as it would hurt the UK. No deal is the worst possible deal.
What time do the media plan on screaming about costings (or the lack of) in the Tory manifesto?
Got the IFS on hand for that: