General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Has anyone actually read the article? They're saying they don't know how much it'll cost, not that they're scrapping the idea.
 
Really looking forward to the jokes about this Tory sum being way off. Obviously the media couldn't find a hook when Rudd got the average police officer's wage wrong and Hammond undervauled the cost of HS2 by £20bn, but they'll definitely have something hilarious for this feck up.

Has anyone actually read the article? They're saying they don't know how much it'll cost, not that they're scrapping the idea.
That is really odd, because they said it would cost £60m a year the night before their manifesto launch. Strong n' stable and all that.
 
Ms. Hartley-Brewer doesn't believe that anyone can not afford to eat breakfast - or feed their child breakfast it might be, to be strictly accurate.
 
What's the purpose of scrapping free lunches and bringing in free breakfast?

Cheaper, and as less kids to cater for as not everyone will get to school in time for them?
 
What's the purpose of scrapping free lunches and bringing in free breakfast?

Cheaper, and as less kids to cater for as not everyone will get to school in time for them?
A 49p bag of porridge oats cooked with water would feed quite a few kids.
 
Paul Mason jumping the shark here

 
National campaigns are suspended till Friday, but there was some local campaigning going on today at the discretion of the candidates (Labour as well).
 
I've never seen so many Lib Dem flags and signs as in my constituency at the moment. Ironically think that Corbyn will ensure Hoey keeps her seat though.
 
Not sure I'd class backtracking as 'campaigning' tbf.

When is the rescheduled Andrew Neil interview with Paul Nuttall btw? Can't wait to see that.
Using recent events to try and bury backtracking, it's campaigning of a sort. Although maybe I'm too cynical and it could unfortunate timing. It's not
 
7p per child for the free breakfasts plan is absurd. As bad as any Labour gaffe, and reiterates that whatever you think of Corbyn's he's no riskier than an option than May.
 
7p per child for the free breakfasts plan is absurd. As bad as any Labour gaffe, and reiterates that whatever you think of Corbyn's he's no riskier than an option than May.
I think Labour are still the riskier option, just.

The 7p per meal gaffe is insane (just asking someone to work the extra hour will cost 30-50p per meal if nothing else)...

But Labour want to heavily increase taxation, heavily increase spending, and nationalise things all over the place. Whether or not you support that idea, it's a huge change, with the potential to go very badly (for example, if increasing corporation tax and the highest tax rate moves jobs abroad).

On the other hand the Tories want to eject us from the Single Market faster than Theresa May can back-track on any cuts affecting Tory voters.

On the other hand, Labour's EU proposals are as clear as mud.
 
Ms. Hartley-Brewer doesn't believe that anyone can not afford to eat breakfast - or feed their child breakfast it might be, to be strictly accurate.

If someone is in such a position, then i would argue that free school breakfasts (or lunches for that matter) misses the point. We're just slapping on a plater and telling parent/child to run along.

Time is a more acceptable conundrum given the difficulties of a commute, but not finances or know-how.
 
She struggles with self awareness, nevermind the lives of others.


She's really not that bright in general. I remember her being on Sky News after one of the European election (might have been Austria) and her basic lack of knowledge on really, really basic facts surrounding the election was astounding considering she was expected to have a discussion about it.
 
Serious policy making has died a death in this election. The Tories manifesto is as substantial as candy floss, and Labour's is so riddled with amateur hour back of the envelope calculations that it seems more designed for posters and memes than for actual implementation.

The IFS are releasing their economic analysis of the manifestos tomorrow, which should be interesting. I suspect neither party will come out of it well.

The 7p figure is misleading in its practical implications though, as it would only be accurate if the scheme saw a 100% participation rate. More than likely the actual range will fall somewhere between 14-21pence per child.

Corbyn encountered a somewhat similar funding problem with his own school meals proposal: in that instance, there was no provision for necessary capital spending by schools (nor staff IIRC).

Better than both of these however, would be to target a significant amount of resources at Home Ec. Or whatever they call it thee days.
 
The 7p figure is misleading in its practical implications though, as it would only be accurate if the scheme saw a 100% participation rate. More than likely the actual range will fall somewhere between 14-21pence per child.

Corbyn encountered a somewhat similar funding problem with his own school meals proposal: in that instance, there was no provision for necessary capital spending by schools (nor staff IIRC).

Better than both of these however, would be to target a significant amount of resources at Home Ec. Or whatever they call it thee days.

If parents can't afford to properly feed their kids, they're certainly not going to be able to afford to pay for ingredients for their kids to bring to school to learn to cook with. It also does almost nothing to help with the child's nutrition, and they'd likely only have one class a week at best. Sure it'd help prepare them for later life, and I'd support it being a strong part of the curriculum for that reason, but it doesn't help the immediate problem.
 
Just to clarify, as I understand it, the Tories aren't getting rid of means tested free school meals for families on low incomes. They're getting rid of the coalition policy of universal free school meals for all children in their first 3 years of primary school. Families on low incomes continue to get free school meals throughout school.

That's good, although means testing for low income can result in a lot of families who on paper look like they should be fine, but in reality have very little actual money falling through the cracks.
 
Just to clarify, as I understand it, the Tories aren't getting rid of means tested free school meals for families on low incomes. They're getting rid of the coalition policy of universal free school meals for all children in their first 3 years of primary school. Families on low incomes continue to get free school meals throughout school.

The poorest will still get it assuming they apply. The just about managing that May claims to be for won't.
 
UKIP :lol:

EDIT: This is fake sadly. The vitamin D one is real though

 
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