General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
More a critique of procedure, but id don't think that the SNP and Plaid should have been permitted to answer questions on policies pertaining to devolved powers. I'd also advocate the arming of the moderator with a cane or ball gag; it would soon make the proceedings more dignified at any rate.
 
Just watched the highlights of the debate, by god it's a fecking shambles, no credible leaders, no credible party, a fecking joke.
 
He's a weird one. I struggle to take him even remotely seriously and he's a bit of a caricature, but I also find him difficult to dislike. Maybe because I doubt he'll be anywhere near government anyway.
I can't tell if the bake off joke was a good bit of self awareness or utterly stupid.
 
I can tell if the bake off joke was a bit of self awareness or utterly stupid.

I thought it was alright. He knows he's in dodgy dad humour territory and kind of basked in it. The comment about Guardian readers definitely demonstrated a tad of self-awareness, I think.
 
:confused::confused:

The audience complaints are one thing, although Corbyn's policies have always polled far better than he has done and it's hardly a stretch to imagine that more people agree with them than don't, but the moderator on several occasions stepped in when Rudd was struggling (like on Saudi Arabia) and pressed Corbyn for answers more than others.
Actually I thought she stepped in on the Saudi Arabia thing before Rudd had a chance to deliver an answer, making her look much worse than if she'd had a chance to parry back as she did with everything else that was thrown at her. Worse was when the moderator cut the Green Party speaker off midway through her impassioned defence of freedom of movement and Tim Farron when going into detail on the second referendum, almost like she had something against going too heavily into issues that highlighted Corbyn's previous dormancy.

In these things getting increased speech time by being pushed for an answer is a blessing.
 
More a critique of procedure, but id don't think that the SNP and Plaid should have been permitted to answer questions on policies pertaining to devolved powers. I'd also advocate the arming of the moderator with a cane or ball gag; it would soon make the proceedings more dignified at any rate.

More to the point, if you allow Plaid and the SNP there (and UKIP for some reason – yes they poll well but they don't have an MP unlike every other party there) why aren't you also allowing Sinn Fein and the DUP?
 
I'd probably be able to take Farron more seriously if he didn't seem like an interim Preston manager who somehow waggles his way into an extended contract but then retroactively gets sacked seven games later after a 4-1 defeat away to Barnsley on a Tuesday in mid-November.
 
The most notable thing about that debate was May not bothering to turn up. Can't see how that isn't a positive for Corbyn.
 
Actually I thought she stepped in on the Saudi Arabia thing before Rudd had a chance to deliver an answer, making her look much worse than if she'd had a chance to parry back as she did with everything else that was thrown at her. Worse was when the moderator cut the Green Party speaker off midway through her impassioned defence of freedom of movement and Tim Farron when going into detail on the second referendum.

In these things getting increased speech time by being pushed for an answer is a blessing.

Au contraire, her defence to it was 'it is good for business'. It was one of her worst moments in what was a reasonably solid, on message, performance for her.
 
Been out all night and that's waaaaaay to many pages to be catching up on.

Cliff notes, anyone?
 
Anybody else getting bombarded by these insidious wretched adds on various sites like Youtube from the conservatives with really dark undertones about Corbin?

what a bunch of shit cnuts

Yes, and some of them even spell his name correctly.
 
More to the point, if you allow Plaid and the SNP there (and UKIP for some reason – yes they poll well but they don't have an MP unlike every other party there) why aren't you also allowing Sinn Fein and the DUP?

Would be consistent, yes, but that would make nine reps on the panel...

Maybe we could start off with them all and have qualifying rounds for the final debate.
 
Beginning of June - end of May...
 
I thought it was alright. He knows he's in dodgy dad humour territory and kind of basked in it. The comment about Guardian readers definitely demonstrated a tad of self-awareness, I think.
Ah must of missed that bit. I don't like him at all but I thought he did quite good overall.
 
Been out all night and that's waaaaaay to many pages to be catching up on.

Cliff notes, anyone?

Seven people argued for an hour and a half and nothing probably changed.
 
Ah must of missed that bit. I don't like him at all but I thought he did quite good overall.

Aye, he's a tad ridiculous but I don't mind him too much overall. Won't vote for his party still though.
 
Been out all night and that's waaaaaay to many pages to be catching up on.

Cliff notes, anyone?

Theresa May didn't turn up.
Paul Nuttal is a racist.
Farron is quite funny.
Caroline Lucas is quite good.
Corbyn did alright, but didn't really do anymore damage than he did just for turning up.
Robertson is well suited to this environment.
Leanne Wood is a melt.
Rudd was pretty good at repeating Tory soundbites but struggled when she was taken away from those areas.

Would be consistent, yes, but that would make nine reps on the panel...

Maybe we could start off with them all and have qualifying rounds for the final debate.

Well quite, and 7 was clearly too many already.
 
Au contraire, her defence to it was 'it is good for business'. It was one of her worst moments in what was a reasonably solid, on message, performance for her.
TBF I don't think the general public care as much about morals as the fate of the economy and consequently their lives as much as they will publicly pretend, it wasn't a bad answer. As we know she couldn't go into any more detail anyway as she was cut off before being allowed to respond to Wood's taunt.
 
I'd probably be able to take Farron more seriously if he didn't seem like an interim Preston manager who somehow waggles his way into an extended contract but then retroactively gets sacked seven games later after a 4-1 defeat away to Barnsley on a Tuesday in mid-November.
I've always thought of him as a 90s Blue Peter presenter that had to leave after a late night incident involving a pair of comedy fake breasts. You can imagine him saying "phwoar!" about stuff.

But overall he did the job tonight. Lucas and Robertson are better at portraying themselves as politicians though.